David Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Rashad should go to his wrestling, there is no reason he cannot grind out a win if he goes back to his wrestling roots.Considering what his last performance was like, do you think he'd be smart to go into this fight looking to wrestle and "grind out" a win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Â Fair point, but if he goes 0-3, Dana will be on his back anyway. I think he should fight to the best of his ability and maximize his chances of winning, for me that is fighting smart. If he is active with his wrestling like he was with Tito, it may not even be boring. The worst case is if he comes out flat striking, and loses on points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted June 13, 2013 Author Paid Members Share Posted June 13, 2013 Countdown videos;  Rashad vs Hendo http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_ur...h?v=yRtH0TIPZ_4  Nelson vs Miocic http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_ur...;feature=relmfu  Bollocks. Did this off my phone so these links are the mobile version of YouTube. If the links don't work I apologize, they're easy enough to find if you search Countdown to UFC 161 on YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted June 13, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted June 13, 2013 Also,  Rashad/Hendo training day part 1..  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9HY68W6iHE  Part 2  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXQy_9g2KEo  Almost like a mini Primetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted June 13, 2013 Author Paid Members Share Posted June 13, 2013 Them Training Day videos are good. I think the second one might have touched on something with Rashad actually. Him saying he needs to suffer a bit in camp to maintain his edge, then it cuts to him cruising down a sunny Miami highway...maybe the Florida lifestyle is making him softer. He didn't say that but he has been mentioning Rocky 3 recently, maybe he's lost his 'eye of the tiger'. Are we overlooking Miocic in the co-main? All 16 of us who voted have picked Big Country to clobber him. Yet Stipe on paper is the better boxer, better wrestler, younger, faster, more reach etc. The only advantages Roy really has besides his chin are BJJ (which he rarely uses), experience and maybe power. I picked Roy almost instinctively but I'm not sure, we might be selling Stipe a tad short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted June 13, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted June 13, 2013 i think Miocic would be wise to try and wrestle Roy and control him from top position, standing i think everyone just expects Roy to land that over right, he's on fire with that thing at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Card's taken a big hit losing Shogun/Little Nog 2. All I ask is that Hendo/Evans is better than their last fights, ugh. Voted Hendo by KO and Nelson via KO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted June 14, 2013 Author Paid Members Share Posted June 14, 2013 Staredowns from yesterday; Â Â Â Â Also, has anyone heard about Roy Nelson calling Daniel Cormier an 'Uncle Tom'? I usually like Roy and usually think Dana's being harsh on him when he says Roy is stupid etc, but fuck me what a twat. I haven't seen the interview in question yet but there's no right context to use that phrase in for me. If he said it, he was wrong. Wouldn't mind seeing Cormier vs Nelson though, if Roy wins tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Also, has anyone heard about Roy Nelson calling Daniel Cormier an 'Uncle Tom'? I usually like Roy and usually think Dana's being harsh on him when he says Roy is stupid etc, but fuck me what a twat. I haven't seen the interview in question yet but there's no right context to use that phrase in for me. If he said it, he was wrong. Wouldn't mind seeing Cormier vs Nelson though, if Roy wins tomorrow.Here's a write-up on it, and here's the interview in question.Roy Nelson and Dana White don't like each other very much. That's pretty obvious to any outside observer. That said, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted June 14, 2013 Author Paid Members Share Posted June 14, 2013 Cheers. Yeah, Nelson's come off badly there. Even using the old "well I have lots of black friends" bit first, as if it justifies the following "and they'd call that an 'Uncle Tom' move". Not good. With this being the last fight on Nelson's contract, it will be interesting to see what happens with him after this fight, win or lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted June 14, 2013 Author Paid Members Share Posted June 14, 2013 Just been watching the Helwani interviews, man, Rosi Sexton seemed nervous as fuck. I don't know if it's the occasion overwhelming her, pre-Octagon jitters or she's just not that comfortable with public speaking but she seemed very uneasy. She's one of the most experienced womens fighters in the sport so maybe it is just more a case of her not being one for interviews. It would be nice to see her pull the upset but I have to give the edge to Alexis Davis. She's got great BJJ, she's scrappy on the feet and she's bigger. They're both very good grapplers but I think Davis' size advantage will make the difference on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted June 14, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted June 14, 2013 I watched the interview and Nelson's definitely trying to play up to the character, it almost seems like he tries to piss Dana off on purpose these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Just been watching the Helwani interviews, man, Rosi Sexton seemed nervous as fuck. I don't know if it's the occasion overwhelming her, pre-Octagon jitters or she's just not that comfortable with public speaking but she seemed very uneasy. She's one of the most experienced womens fighters in the sport so maybe it is just more a case of her not being one for interviews. It would be nice to see her pull the upset but I have to give the edge to Alexis Davis. She's got great BJJ, she's scrappy on the feet and she's bigger. They're both very good grapplers but I think Davis' size advantage will make the difference on the ground.Yeah, I thought that as well. I've chosen Davis to win via first round submission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I think even if Nelson wins, there is a good chance he is out the door and maybe in Bellator or WSOF. Dana sounded like he would entertain a new contract for Roy if he won, but did not seem that arsed. I think Roy would not be in the UFC if he had not won TUF, the shambles that was the Nelson vs Carwin season ratings and critical wise will just add to Dana's desire to give Nelson the chop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 If Dana decides to give Nelson the chop simply because he doesn't like the guy, that would rank up there as the most retarded thing he's ever done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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