Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted May 31, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted May 31, 2017 Haha, yeah. If Steve Davis grew his hair out into a lovely ginger afro. Askren vs Maia! Now there's a fight. See there's so many interesting matchups for Askren in the UFC. It's not just that you think he deserves and has the skills to be there, it's where all the most intriguing matches are as well. He's probably making decent money where he is but it's just unfortunate. Despite being one of the best fighters outside the UFC , he's invisible and irrelevant these days. It's the old 'if a tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound?' thing. He's breezing through these guys he's fighting but who really gives a fuck? If he's happy doing that and making that easy coin more power to him, but for someone who's been involved with high level competition nearly all his life, I can see him looking back and wondering what if when he's all old, fat and retired. Granted it's not 100% down to him why he's not in the UFC, but his fuck you attitude certainly doesn't help his cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted May 31, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted May 31, 2017 20 minutes ago, wandshogun09 said: He's breezing through these guys he's fighting but who really gives a fuck? If he's happy doing that and making that easy coin more power to him, but for someone who's been involved with high level competition nearly all his life, I can see him looking back and wondering what if when he's all old, fat and retired. Granted it's not 100% down to him why he's not in the UFC, but his fuck you attitude certainly doesn't help his cause. I don't think that's fair at all Wand. From what I've read and heard, it's all on Dana. Yes, Askren didn't go about things the right way when he ran his mouth, but it was all down to frustration after dealing with White. Dana behaved like a cock when it came to handling Askren during the negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted May 31, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted May 31, 2017 35 minutes ago, Carbomb said: Fair enough. So Askren's a percentage player - basically the MMA equivalent of Steve Davis. Apologies for the double post. I think even saying he's a percentage player isn't fair to Askren. He's just got a skill and style that's just that good not many can really work it out. As Egg mentioned, he's actually finishing an awful lot of fights now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members WeeAl Posted May 31, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted May 31, 2017 I just had a look at Askren's record there and he seems pretty inactive. Is this down to injuries, contract negotiations, or something else? I've never seen him fight but hopefully one of you good souls can fill in the blanks with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted May 31, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, WeeAl said: I just had a look at Askren's record there and he seems pretty inactive. Is this down to injuries, contract negotiations, or something else? I've never seen him fight but hopefully one of you good souls can fill in the blanks with this. Just a mix of combinations really. Some contracts negotiations, some injuries, some where it's simply a lack of challengers. That said, there's never a year gone by where he hasn't competed. Edited May 31, 2017 by lambyUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted May 31, 2017 Author Paid Members Share Posted May 31, 2017 4 hours ago, Noah Southworth said: If Askren does go the UFC, he should see if he can cut to 155lbs because he's a very small welterweight. I can't think of a single welterweight in the UFC that Askren wouldn't be giving up significant size to. Askren's pretty big at the weight isnt he? not saying he couldn't lose some body fat but he's not a guy who seems undersized at 170. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Southworth Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, Egg Shen said: Askren's pretty big at the weight isnt he? not saying he couldn't lose some body fat but he's not a guy who seems undersized at 170. Based on his last fight, Askren looks to be about 170lbs and not much over, perhaps 175lbs at the most. He'd be giving up at least 10-15lbs against most of the welterweights in the UFC. The likes of Woodley and Lawler, even the slightly less jacked looking Lawler, look so much bigger inside the cage when competing at 170lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted May 31, 2017 Author Paid Members Share Posted May 31, 2017 of course he was 170, that's what he weighed in at but seriously, Askren is pretty tall and he's a thick kind of 170. Look at the Askren weigh in photos next to too Jay Hieron, then look at Woodley/Heiron. Other than Woodley being heavily muscled id wager that Askren is naturally as big a guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mole Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) He won all his wrestling medals at 84kg (185) so pretty certain he can't make 155. He also struggled in his fight with Luis Santos in One, he was shooting for takedowns and being shrugged off pretty easy and Santos seemed to throw him down at will, the fight ended in a NC due to a eye poke that he did before he took him down, Santos already had one hand covering his eye though but his opponent looked quite roided and think he may have nearly missed weight, so who knows what would have happened in a longer fight Edited May 31, 2017 by the_mole Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members WeeAl Posted May 31, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, lambyUK said: Just a mix of combinations really. Some contracts negotiations, some injuries, some where it's simply a lack of challengers. That said, there's never a year gone by where he hasn't competed. Cheers Lamby. Askren must be One's biggest name? Even if the UFC was an open door for him, I'd imagine One would have to make a pretty strong play to keep him? Edited May 31, 2017 by WeeAl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mole Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 He might be to the American market, they cirrently have no plans to break into that market and are sticking with Asia In South East Asia it's Atomweight champ Angela Lee is probably the biggest star, she's of Asian decent and is quite attractive. Askrens mouth hasn't gotten him any more popular in South East Asia where One usually run, most of their fighters are from that region. The CEO laughably claimed they wouldn't want Conor McGregor because his mouth and throwing water bottles would end with them in jail if they did it in China where they are trying to break into. One only really has one person you may have seen per weight class unless you are really into the current Asian MMA scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted June 1, 2017 Author Paid Members Share Posted June 1, 2017 One is doing great business over there though, like KSW they just exist in their own world and are very successful with it. To the wider MMA world Ben Askren & Brandon Vera are the two guys people recognise but they have their own stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 For anyone at a loose end, BoxNation have a live M-1 event on right now. Just turned it on so not sure how far in they are. Alexander Shlemenko vs Brandon Halsey is the main event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 SHLEMENKO IS BACK~~~~~!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted June 2, 2017 Author Paid Members Share Posted June 2, 2017 Boxnations random MMA coverage is weird. I remember them announcing that they were gonna start showing stuff and had signed a deal with a promotion but it never really took off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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