Jon Venables back in prison

[Steveo2007]

I'm absolutely stunned that you lock a child up and then he grows up to be a weirdo. I personally would have thought that taking away the rest of his childhood, taking away the period of his life when he learns how to socialise and interact with the opposite sex and other adults and then releasing him into a world that must absolutely terrify him would be the way to create a well balanced human being. Who would have thunked it?

 

The fact that he clearly was unblanced to start with won't help either.

Maybe we should allow the psycho's to have this one and give him a public burning.

[quote the raven]

People still defending him? LMAO. Is it because it cool to be anti media?

 

What does he have to do to make it his fault? You people need to wake up and smell the coffee. If we made him what he is which is ,lower than an animal then tough shit, im feed up of paying for his life if we cant kill him then lock him up and throw away the key.

 

People are now saying he shouldnt have been locked up at all? as it might spoil his childhood? Fucking laughable the fact is the guy is a fucking loon always was and clearly always will be. You can try and tell yourself he wasnt and we made him and all that other bullshit all you like.

 

Rick you say relaseing him would have been "terrify him" Maybe they should have

 

1. Taken him a railway track and beaten him to death after blinding him with paint.

2. Abused the fuck out him and took pictures.

 

See how scared the poor little mite is then. My only hope in all this is the poor parents dont get dragged into it again i think they have suffered more than anyone ever should.

 

With any luck the dad will do what he should have done a long time ago and track them down and butcher them, make no mistake about it someone did that to my boy i would have no problem killing them nice and slowly and as painfully as possible doubtful i would have cared how old they where or not.

Edited June 22, 2010 by quote the raven

[cdm316]

People still defending him? LMAO. Is it because it cool to be anti media?

 

What does he have to do to make it his fault? You people need to wake up and smell the coffee. If we made him what he is which is ,lower than an animal then tough shit, im feed up of paying for his life if we cant kill him then lock him up and throw away the key.

 

People are now saying he shouldnt have been locked up at all? as it might spoil his childhood? Fucking laughable the fact is the guy is a fucking loon always was and clearly always will be. You can try and tell yourself he wasnt and we made him and all that other bullshit all you like.

 

Rick you say relaseing him would have been "terrify him" Maybe they should have

 

1. Taken him a railway track and beaten him to death after blinding him with paint.

2. Abused the fuck out him and took pictures.

 

See how scared the poor little mite is then. My only hope in all this is the poor parents dont get dragged into it again i think they have suffered more than anyone ever should.

 

With any luck the dad will do what he should have done a long time ago and track them down and butcher them, make no mistake about it someone did that to my boy i would have no problem killing them nice and slowly and as painfully as possible doubtful i would have cared how old they where or not.

 

Jon Venables may well be a fucking loon, I don't necessarily disagree with that. However, I find the anger in your posts a little scary as well. I think I'd cross the road if you both came towards me.

[Pinc]

What does he have to do to make it his fault?

 

He'd have to develop a personality that isn't the direct result of the interaction between his genotype and his upbringing. That being impossible it'll never be correct to say it's his fault, though that's not to say he shouldn't be jailed if he's a significant risk to others.

[BionicRedneck]

With any luck the dad will do what he should have done a long time ago and track them down and butcher them, make no mistake about it someone did that to my boy i would have no problem killing them nice and slowly and as painfully as possible doubtful i would have cared how old they where or not.

 

You are clearly also a 'loon'. Fantasising about a scenario where you can justifiably (in your mind) 'butcher' people (painfully and slowly, no matter how young) is not normal. Talk to a professional or something.

[martyngnr]

make no mistake about it someone did that to my boy i would have no problem killing them nice and slowly and as painfully as possible doubtful i would have cared how old they where or not.

And there it is.....clearly you dont have the intelligence to judge the case without making it personal.

The use of the old "How would you/i feel" argument makes you nothing more than an irrational moron. Well done.

[hitman89762000]

I have a question (and im well aware i could be mocked for this) but the way i see it every efforts gone into protecting venables identity since his release from prison (likewise with thompsons) my question is with all that in mind why did they release his mugshot at the time of his arrest for the bulger murder? surely it would have made more sense to keep their identitys hidden therefore they could integrate them more easierly back into society upon their release? (not that im saying anyone would twig it was him based on a 8 year old photo at the time or whatever).

 

As for the whole ''they should have hung the bastards for it'' debate...Thats for smarter people than me.

[David]

He'd have to develop a personality that isn't the direct result of the interaction between his genotype and his upbringing. That being impossible it'll never be correct to say it's his fault.

In that case, we can't really blame anyone for anything they do.

[quote the raven]

With any luck the dad will do what he should have done a long time ago and track them down and butcher them, make no mistake about it someone did that to my boy i would have no problem killing them nice and slowly and as painfully as possible doubtful i would have cared how old they where or not.

 

You are clearly also a 'loon'. Fantasising about a scenario where you can justifiably (in your mind) 'butcher' people (painfully and slowly, no matter how young) is not normal. Talk to a professional or something.

 

 

If Any mother of father on here could refrain from revenge is behond me. Before i had my son i wouldnt have understood. IM not fantasising at all im stating a fact. I dont think i could do anything other than seek my own justice after the failing of the system.

 

Anyway its my upbringing that made me like it yadda yadda.

 

I have the IQ to debate the case, however i find the defending of a child murderer and now someone that gets off on child porn sick. What next? Fred west had if rough? poor guy should have let him go not his fault

Edited June 22, 2010 by quote the raven

[patiirc]

If Any mother of father on here could refrain from revenge is behond me. Before i had my son i wouldnt have understood. IM not fantasising at all im stating a fact. I dont think i could do anything other than seek my own justice after the failing of the system.

 

Anyway its my upbringing that made me like it yadda yadda.

 

I have the IQ to debate the case, however i find the defending of a child murderer and now someone that gets off on child porn sick. What next? Fred west had if rough? poor guy should have let him go not his fault

 

 

You want to kill people.. and are broadcasting the fact

 

on one hand its a case of this

 

 

as in Mob Justice the system has failed and other utter such bollox

 

 

Accept that there is a system, it doesnt agree with your values and morals.. But unless it changes its tough.

 

Instead of going I will kill and torture the bastard .. Productive that *sighs* That rises you above whomever youve killed how exactly?

 

 

On the other

 

That it is such the right thing to do and, unless you have kids you wont understand? Wont understand what? Kids make you into an irrationals sociopathic nut job who resorts to violence at the first instance and loses all coherent thought?

 

Nothing like a measured response..

 

'Off with their heads'

 

On a side note Jon Venables has been caught with Child Porn and distributing images and is back behind bars .. So the system works. This isnt enough apparently?

 

 

 

P.S Sorry if this is all a bit 'bitty'not having the best day pain wise

[Casey V]

Quote the Raven, well done - though it saddens me to see only one person talking sense in a thread full of sheltered twats with no understanding of the world around them.

[GalaxyV.2]

I feel very sorry for the Mother and Father and what they have gone through. What those two boys did to their son (and we have only ever heard the 'cleaned up' version) as the most horrific thing I've ever heard of, and their dignity inspite of their obvious anger is admirable. I don't give a fuck about Vennables or Thompson, I couldn't care what happens to them.

 

I still maintain they should have done time in prison for it, but that didn't happen and so I understand why they have new identities, I don't see how killing them for instance rights the wrong they have done, its not going to bring that little boy back or help his Mother and Father get over their loss.

 

In conclusion, as I said earlier, for me I don't give a shit what happens to them, they don't deserve my time. I can't rationalise what they did, and I never will. Blaming it on all sorts of factors to me isn't the point. No matter why they did it, they still did it. Theres no real point arguing about what was to blame, nor claim they were inherently evil as odly that somehow absolves them of blame.

 

I just hope the Bulger parents can find peace one day.

Edited June 22, 2010 by GalaxyV.2

[tiger_rick]

I feel very sorry for the Mother and Father and what they have gone through. What those two boys did to their son (and we have only ever heard the 'cleaned up' version) as the most horrific thing I've ever heard of, and their dignity inspite of their obvious anger is admirable.

Does anyone really need to say that? Surely that's a given. I'd never, in any way, condone what happened or belittle how the Bulgers must feel, I don't think anyone has or would. One doesn't have to become a raging, foaming vigilante to want justice.

 

In conclusion, as I said earlier, for me I don't give a shit what happens to them, they don't deserve my time. I can't rationalise what they did, and I never will. Blaming it on all sorts of factors to me isn't the point. No matter why they did it, they still did it. Theres no real point arguing about what was to blame, nor claim they were inherently evil as odly that somehow absolves them of blame.

Why wouldn't you care? Same with any horrific crime. Surely everyone should care.We should care about what we as a society can take from it. We should attempt to learn how people become this "evil". That's what professional people strive to do everyday. To pick up signs, to learn behaviour so that they can attempt to stop weirdo's and lunatics from commiting horrendous crimes.

 

I heard of a case that's going on at the moment, 2 brothers raped their younger sister after abusing her for years. These are just kids, aged about 11 and 13 I think. You don't just throw kids like that in prison, as hideous as the crime is. You've got to work to try and make them as normal as they can possibly be otherwise we might aswell just put people down. If we're going to have the attitude that someone is bad or evil and can't be rehabilitated then we might aswell just hang them and have done with it.

 

Oh, and if "quote the raven" is talking sense then I am happy to spout nonsense for the rest of my life rather than share an opinion with that fucking lunatic. It scares me that he's a parent.

[quote the raven]

Kids make you into an irrationals sociopathic nut job who resorts to violence at the first instance and loses all coherent thought?

 

 

First if all i never said I wanted to kill them i stated the fact that if i was the father of the Jamie then that would be my response dont try and twist it around.

 

As for the quote above? Spot on when my child is in life threatening danger, or had been beaten and murdered tho i would hardly class that as a first instance would you?

 

So out of wondering just say it was your kid? Would you have just sat back and let all this happen?

 

If that makes me a "fucking lunatic then so be it.

Edited June 22, 2010 by quote the raven

[tiger_rick]

If it happened to my kid, it'd rip the beating heart out of my chest. I don't know how I'd feel. I know that me ending up in prison after losing our child would kill my wife. I also know that nothing would bring the kid back.