Magnum Milano Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 UFC 6 was good fun. I can see why Abbott vs. Taktarov was described as "must-see". It was grinding my gears for a while, but it's probably one of the more dramatic UFC fights I've seen. Both guys were absolutely shattered so I don't mind. As for earlier fights, the first round had all sorts of goodness. My favourite being Patrick Smith EXPLODING out at the start with a kick. Dont know if you are aware or not but the Taktarov vs Macias semi final, which went an exhausting 12 seconds was a work. I actually dont think I have watched UFC 7 for some reason (just skipped over the disc when doing my watching), but UFC 8 is an enjoyable show with the 'David vs Goliath Tournament', primarily for the debuts of Don Frye and Gary Goodridge. Then you will have UFC 9 which features the second must see great fight in UFC history between Frye and Amaury Bitetti. Pat Smith is still decent...not a contender or anything, but he can still throw down. He was one of the best guys in the first UFC's, always had a bit of an attitude problem too He looked in great physical shape, and also performed well the last time I saw him fight which would have been at the Yamma show against Butterbean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cum Doctor Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 UFC 6 was good fun. I can see why Abbott vs. Taktarov was described as "must-see". It was grinding my gears for a while, but it's probably one of the more dramatic UFC fights I've seen. Both guys were absolutely shattered so I don't mind. As for earlier fights, the first round had all sorts of goodness. My favourite being Patrick Smith EXPLODING out at the start with a kick. Dont know if you are aware or not but the Taktarov vs Macias semi final, which went an exhausting 12 seconds was a work. I spotted that on the Wiki page for it. Was that the one where he just ran at his opponent on the opening bell and knocked him on his arse with a Muay Thai front kick? That's the very one. Definately shocked me more than Tank Abbott's impressive display in the same round. I really like Pat Smith so far. He just has something about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Milano Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 By the way Haraga, if you are still planning on watching these shows in order, remember there is an Ultimate Ultimate '95 that you should watch after UFC 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted February 19, 2010 Author Paid Members Share Posted February 19, 2010 Tank still sells tickets based on his performance at UFC 6. was Taktarov/Marcias really a work? what other works were there in the UFC? i know there's one involving Don Frye/Brian Johnston (i think it was that fight). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Tank still sells tickets based on his performance at UFC 6. was Taktarov/Marcias really a work? what other works were there in the UFC? i know there's one involving Don Frye/Brian Johnston (i think it was that fight). There is a story about one at the UFC where Don Frye won In a semi final it is alledged and belived Fryes oppenent Mark hall who had the same manager as Ftye was asked to let Frye win quick with a heel hook so that he could be fresh for the final and the fact taht having beat Hall twice over the past two years that Hall had no chance in hell Hall took he dive and later claimed it ruined his lfe and said some pretty twisted things abbout killing Frye, another Mark Hall story in 1999 just after Ken Shamrock left the WWF he ran into Hall at a casino after a comment made about Shamrocks wife, Shamrock beat the snot out of him. Id recommend Clyde Gentrys awesome book no holds barred for more storys like this as it covers the sport from its early days right up until the start of the boom period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted February 19, 2010 Paid Members Share Posted February 19, 2010 I heard Takada vs Coleman from Pride 5 was a work too and it did looked fishy to me.Even Bas on commentary seemed very suspicious from what I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Milano Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 I heard Takada vs Coleman from Pride 5 was a work too and it did looked fishy to me.Even Bas on commentary seemed very suspicious from what I remember. To be honest, I would be suspicious of anything involving Takada. I have got a compilation that someone put together of worked matches in MMA, and will try and dig out the listings for it in the morning at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted February 20, 2010 Paid Members Share Posted February 20, 2010 Yeah most of the Takada fights I've seen seemed dodgy in one way or another. Only one I've seen that definitely wasn't was the fight with Tamura at Pride 23.Tamura just battered him with leg kicks for about 10 minutes and then knocked him spark out. I remember reading about a fight between Takada and Trevor Berbick that was supposed to be worked but Takada started shooting and fucked Berbick up with leg kicks.Might have been in the UWFi days that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Milano Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 I remember reading about a fight between Takada and Trevor Berbick that was supposed to be worked but Takada started shooting and fucked Berbick up with leg kicks.Might have been in the UWFi days that one. I think there were several shoot incidents/double crosses in the UWFi involving the likes of Takada and Gary Albright. There was also some situation that took place with the boxer Matthew Saad Muhammed, but I cant remember which fighter was involved with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Milano Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 I heard Takada vs Coleman from Pride 5 was a work too and it did looked fishy to me. Searched out that worked fights comp and the above is on it. Full listings are: Steps' Vault of Works vol. 1 Bart Vale vs Frank Shamrock Matt Hume vs Ken Shamrock Oleg Taktarov vs Anthony Macias (UFC) Oleg Taktarov vs Anthony Macias *additional live PPV footage* (on this before the fight begins you clearly see Macias wink at Taktarov. This is not shown on the commercial release of the show) Kimo Leopoldo vs Kazushi Sakuraba Mitsuhiro Matsunaga vs Dan Severn (U-Japan) Don Frye vs Mark Hall II (UFC) Gary Goodridge vs Cal Worsham (IVC) Vitor Belfort vs Joe Charles (UFC) Nobuhiko Takada vs Kyle Sturgeon (Pride) Nobuhiko Takada vs Mark Coleman (Pride) Matt Hughes vs Jeremy Horn (ADCC) Dan Severn vs Shannon Ritch Kimo Leopoldo vs Kazushi Sakuraba (different version to whats listed earlier) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 I heard Takada vs Coleman from Pride 5 was a work too and it did looked fishy to me. Searched out that worked fights comp and the above is on it. Full listings are: Steps' Vault of Works vol. 1 Bart Vale vs Frank Shamrock Matt Hume vs Ken Shamrock Oleg Taktarov vs Anthony Macias (UFC) Oleg Taktarov vs Anthony Macias *additional live PPV footage* (on this before the fight begins you clearly see Macias wink at Taktarov. This is not shown on the commercial release of the show) Kimo Leopoldo vs Kazushi Sakuraba Mitsuhiro Matsunaga vs Dan Severn (U-Japan) Don Frye vs Mark Hall II (UFC) Gary Goodridge vs Cal Worsham (IVC) Vitor Belfort vs Joe Charles (UFC) Nobuhiko Takada vs Kyle Sturgeon (Pride) Nobuhiko Takada vs Mark Coleman (Pride) Matt Hughes vs Jeremy Horn (ADCC) Dan Severn vs Shannon Ritch Kimo Leopoldo vs Kazushi Sakuraba (different version to whats listed earlier) Hughes admits this in his book and also alledges Renzo Gracie and a student through a fight at the same event Havent heard about Charles vs Vitor though anyone got any info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Oh yeah and Rampage alledges foul play from officials in his fight with Sakuraba in Pride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Milano Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 I heard Takada vs Coleman from Pride 5 was a work too and it did looked fishy to me. Searched out that worked fights comp and the above is on it. Full listings are: Steps' Vault of Works vol. 1 Bart Vale vs Frank Shamrock Matt Hume vs Ken Shamrock Oleg Taktarov vs Anthony Macias (UFC) Oleg Taktarov vs Anthony Macias *additional live PPV footage* (on this before the fight begins you clearly see Macias wink at Taktarov. This is not shown on the commercial release of the show) Kimo Leopoldo vs Kazushi Sakuraba Mitsuhiro Matsunaga vs Dan Severn (U-Japan) Don Frye vs Mark Hall II (UFC) Gary Goodridge vs Cal Worsham (IVC) Vitor Belfort vs Joe Charles (UFC) Nobuhiko Takada vs Kyle Sturgeon (Pride) Nobuhiko Takada vs Mark Coleman (Pride) Matt Hughes vs Jeremy Horn (ADCC) Dan Severn vs Shannon Ritch Kimo Leopoldo vs Kazushi Sakuraba (different version to whats listed earlier) Hughes admits this in his book and also alledges Renzo Gracie and a student through a fight at the same event Havent heard about Charles vs Vitor though anyone got any info? The Hughes one was a work, as he and Horn came to some sort of agreement where they would work the fight but try and win best throw and best submission at the grappling/submission event. I flicked through the Vitor/Charles fight this morning when getting the listings for this disc. The only thing I can think of is that they came to some sort of agreement to have it as a grappling match, as Vitor doesn't throw any punches at all in the fight, which is completely out of character for Belfort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted February 20, 2010 Author Paid Members Share Posted February 20, 2010 didnt Sakuraba/Carlos Newton's fight also have some kind of 'gentleman's agreement' that they wouldn't throw strikes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurryAngel Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Oh yeah and Rampage alledges foul play from officials in his fight with Sakuraba in Pride I thought Rampage was asked to lose but refused and lost anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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