The General Politics Thread v2.0 (AKA the "Labour are Cunts" thread)

[Devon Malcolm]

In fairness I can see the logic behind not wanting to pay to watch Arsenal.

[MrK]

On 9/16/2024 at 12:26 AM, Tamura said:

It has now been 10,000 days since the last time a democratically elected prime minister was voted out of office in the UK. It's a strange kind of democracy we live in....

I think that’s fairly common. Before the election you talk of (Major > Blair, 1997), the occasion before that where a democratically elected PM was voted out was Heath > Wilson in 1974.

That’s the result of a democratic political system that does not have a maximum term, both parties will tend to throw the current incumbent to the dogs in the hope of getting the “new manager bounce” in the run up to an election.  

[Tim Healys Chutney Spoon]

17 hours ago, SuperBacon said:

I know it's not top of the pops in terms of importance but this really highlights how out of touch and tone deaf Starmer can be.

Buy your own ticket you millionaire scrub.

Difference is that Starmer is PM and as such comes with higher stakes of protection...Corbyn nobody really would give a shit if someone whacked him 

[hallicks]

7 minutes ago, Tim Healys Chutney Spoon said:

Difference is that Starmer is PM and as such comes with higher stakes of protection...Corbyn nobody really would give a shit if someone whacked him 

I dunno, Starmer’s got all the charisma of a soiled towel, and won the election by doing and promising nothing. He’s already proven himself to be a liar many times over. So basically, just another bog standard politician, we’ve got plenty of those.

And let’s not forget that Corbyn’s Labour at its lowest point was more popular than Starmer’s Labour in 2024 (10,269,051 vs 9,708,716). Corb has more people that love him, but also more people that think he’s a KGB agent sent by the IRA to kidnap children and provide free higher education after he’s finished tending his allotment. 

[Chest Rockwell]

That argument keeps getting parroted but it's complete bollocks. Anyone who buys that line is a sucker. As if the only way to navigate that issue is to get free shit. 

[SuperBacon]

2 hours ago, Tim Healys Chutney Spoon said:

Difference is that Starmer is PM and as such comes with higher stakes of protection...Corbyn nobody really would give a shit if someone whacked him 

Even if the above was true (it's not) and the issue is security (which is fair enough) I am certain that millionaire Keir Starmer will not struggle to pay for his own hospitality ticket. 

And I can accept that some things do have to be put on expenses, most of us on here probably claim them, but going to football isn't a right. 

[BomberPat]

That's the thing, isn't it? I think Starmer is probably right that the Prime Minister can't just be sat in the stands with Joe Public - best case scenario is that he has to have his security detail take a bunch of seats away from ordinary people. But to suggest that the only solution to that is for someone else to buy him hospitality tickets is where it doesn't add up. 

He's clearly aiming for a relatable "well, I'm just a bloke like you, you can't expect me to give up watching the football, can you?", but has landed in an even more elitist and out of touch place to where he started. 

[Carbomb]

Put him in goal. 

[SuperBacon]

Not a fan of O'Brien but that is superb.