Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted September 9, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) On the 20th anniversary of 9/11, Triller gives us this. PPV MAIN CARDEvander Holyfield vs Vitor Belfort Anderson Silva vs Tito Ortiz David Haye vs Joe Fournier Andy Vences vs Jono Carroll Christ. I read that there are gonna be some prelims as well but I can’t find info, nor do I care enough to dig around for info. Also read something about Snoop Dogg providing a music performance again like he did for the Tyson vs Jones PPV, this time joined by a hologram of Marvin Gaye! Fo’ shizzle. Complete clusterfuck of an event and there’s no way I’d pay actual money to see it, but I can’t pretend I won’t check this main card out. Morbid curiosity if nothing else. So Evander Holyfield vs Vitor Belfort headlines. Absolutely surreal to even be typing that but combat sports have gone completely barmy recently so maybe it shouldn’t be that much of a shock in 2021. Wasn’t the original plan, we were supposed to see Belfort vs Oscar De La Hoya here. Which was just as odd a matchup. COVID ended up taking the ‘Golden Boy’ out of the fight. In steps Holyfield on about a week’s notice. I’m all for a freakshow but I’m not a fan of this one. Holyfield just shouldn’t be in there. He turns 59 years old next month, for fuck’s sake! An all time great and a true legend but it’s sad seeing him still taking fights at this stage. Admittedly he keeps himself in fantastic shape for a man pushing 60… Shit, the vast majority of 20-30 year olds never look that good. But Father Time came calling on the career of Holyfield a long time ago. He last fought in 2011, and even then the consensus was that he’d carried on way too long. But at least he’d gone out on a couple of wins. A decade out of the ring for any boxer might as well be a lifetime but a decade from your late 40s to late 50s, and after a long hard and punishing career? How you’d rather remember him. He became one of the best Cruiserweights in the world in the first part of his career. His great first fight with Dwight Muhammad Qawi in 1986 being the highlight. I’ve seen it described as “one of the last great 15 round fights” a few times and it really is. Seriously, if you’re a fan of 80s Boxing and somehow haven’t seen this fight, there are worse ways to spend a rainy Thursday afternoon. You’re welcome. They rematched in 1987 and Holyfield stopped him in 4. The wars continued up at Heavyweight and in 1989 he had another cracker against Michael Dokes that I’d also recommend getting up on YouTube if you’re in the mood. He was supposed to fight Mike Tyson in 1990 but Buster Douglas knocking Tyson the fuck out and then the little matter of a rape conviction in 91 shelved that. Evander wound up getting the first shot at new champ Douglas, and crushed him in 3 rounds. He had an unexpectedly great battle with an ageing George Foreman in 91 as well as a points win over an old Larry Holmes in 92. Then it was time. Between 1992 and 1995, Evander Holyfield and Riddick Bowe put on one of the greatest trilogies in Heavyweight history. They were all exciting but the first fight in November 92 was the best of the bunch. Just a 12 round dogfight. I saw it years after the fact and knew the result going in and I was still on the edge of my seat throughout. Bowe ultimately got the nod from the judges when it was all over. Taking Holyfield’s titles and handing him the first loss of his career. Holyfield went from 28-0 to 28-Bowe, and naturally wanted revenge. The rematch went down a year later in November 93. This time Holyfield evened the score, taking a razor close decision. Wasn’t quite as good as the first meeting but still entertaining. In more ways than one… The old ‘fan man’ incident. Craziness. Haven’t seen the full fight in years but I remember a big fuck off pause in the action while this mess got resolved. The guy who dropped in received a kicking, Bowe’s pregnant wife passed out, all sorts. With the controversy and the score now at 1-1, the rubber match was a must. But it never went down until late 95. This time, the judges weren’t needed and Bowe got the TKO in the 8th round of another dramatic battle. I might be wrong but I’m sure I remember the commentators talking about Holyfield not being a spring chicken even back then in 95, and he’d have only been 33 at the time. Here’s a nice little highlight of the Holyfield vs Bowe trilogy; I think all three fights are on YouTube in full though. And of course, the ‘Legendary Nights’ episode on this is excellent too. There’s a strong case to be made that neither man was ever the same again after those fights. Holyfield still had enough to give Mike Tyson a hiding in late 96 though. And everyone knows about the rematch in 97. After that, wins over Michael Moorer, John Ruiz and Hasim Rahman were about as good as it got for him. Lennox Lewis got the better of him over the course of their two fights, despite what the dodgy judges in the first fight said. By the time James Toney clobbered him in 2003, I think it was crystal clear that his days of beating top opposition were over. Like I say though, a true legend. The word warrior gets chucked about willy nilly in both Boxing and MMA at times but when Holyfield had ‘WARRIOR’ on the belt of his shorts, it was for real. Shame his statue looks sod all like him though. And now we come to this. TRT Vitor, Saggy Vitor. Who are we getting? This is almost as much of a mystery as how Holyfield is gonna look. Belfort was never the most consistent at the best of times. Here we’re getting him at 44 years old, having not fought since 2018, and even then he was on the shite end of a brutal knockout from Lyoto Machida. Add to that it’s Boxing rules not MMA. Granted, the hands were always Vitor’s best weapon in MMA but we’re talking another thing entirely going into Boxing against an old wizard like Holyfield. Even at 58, there’s nothing Belfort can throw at him in a Boxing ring that he hasn’t seen thousands of times before. Unless Belfort forgets where he is and throws a headkick. Don’t have a clue what happens here. Anyone giving a prediction with real confidence is full of cack. There’s so much unknown here. At first glance you’d assume - Holyfield’s 58, taking it on a week’s notice = Belfort sparks him. But we don’t know what Belfort’s been doing during all this time away and no matter how old Holyfield is, Belfort is stepping into his house. Holyfield absolutely has the experience and knowledge to take Vitor to school. But then I saw this… I know it’s just hitting pads and moving around a bit. He’s obviously not gonna be giving 100% here. But watching this it really hits home, once again, that this shouldn’t be happening. He looks good for 58 but then you see him moving and…he’s clearly 58. We touched on it in another thread but this was meant to go down in California before it got moved to Florida. Triller clearly don’t give a fuck about Holyfield’s safety here. With Ryan Kavanagh just casually saying ‘if the CSAC don’t clear Evander, ahh fuck it move it to Florida’. So just ignore the reasons why the California commission said no? Lovely. Someone’s going to get badly hurt on one of these Triller shows. Everyone had a chuckle at Ben Askren getting twatted but the weird matchmaking, the disregard for fighter safety and then having the likes of Snoop Dogg taking the piss out of the fighters on commentary just leaves a bad taste. It’s all fun and games until someone actually gets fucked up in there. Hopefully it doesn’t happen here. But yeah, completely at a loss to predict how this goes. I just hope they both make it out OK and get paid well enough to be happy to walk away for good. But we know that isn’t happening. Oh and don’t even get me started on Trump’s involvement. What the fuck? Moving on. Yeah it keeps getting weirder. I don’t recall anyone ever clamouring to see Anderson Silva vs Tito Ortiz the whole time they were in the UFC together. Now they’re fighting under Boxing rules. This is “the most anticipated fight card of the decade” though apparently. Not sure what the ‘REVENGE’ angle is here either. Anderson should obliterate this prick. Even a 46 year old way past his prime Anderson Silva. He’s the way, way better striker/boxer here. And Tito’s striking was never much good in MMA, Tito without the threat of the takedown is gonna be useless. On top of that he’s agreed to take this fight at 195lbs which baffles me even more than his babbling nonsensical interviews. He can’t have weighed 195 since about 1997/98. His head alone probably weighs 70lbs. He looks rough as fuck here; “Smashing his face with people’s elbows” indeed. I honestly don’t get why he’s agreed to 195. He was up against it as it was here. A horrid weight cut thrown into the mix just makes his chances even slimmer. I’d say maybe this is deliberate so that he can use the weight cut as an excuse after but I think that’s giving the wally too much credit. There’s no reason why Anderson shouldn’t be winning this handily. He looked decent against Chavez Jr recently. Say what you want about Chavez Jr but he’s still way better than Tito sodding Ortiz. Not sure what the end game for Anderson is with the Boxing it’s just cool to see him having fun out there. He was supposed to fight Logan Paul but then we ended up with this somehow. Maybe they revisit that if/when he clatters Tito in his massive bonce. Oh and the Hayemaker’s back… David Haye getting in on the madness. Why not? The more the merrier. At this point I’m surprised they haven’t got Butterbean and Shannon Briggs on the blower. Actually that reminds me, Haye vs Briggs was a thing at one point wasn’t it? Nearly. Back when Haye was bashing up no hopers on Channel 5 before the Bellew losses. Wouldn’t shock me at all if Haye vs Briggs is on a future Triller card. Anyway, this is weird enough in its own right. I don’t recall ever hearing of Fournier but apparently he’s a nightclub owner who became a boxer. I guess everyone else is having a go. Him and Haye are good mates and the talk of his comeback, and this fight, stems from a drunken conversation between them on a night out. Sounds about right. Anyone else know more about this Fournier bloke? I read that he’s 9-0 and that’s it. It’s one of those cards that has no right to be good, and probably won’t be, but with the names involved I’ve got to tune in. Edited September 10, 2021 by wandshogun09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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