SuperBacon Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Surely no one thinks/thought he was a saint? But you're correct in that every aspect has to be included when assessing what made up such an important cultural icon. Some people are able to watch films featuring abusers, or listen to music, and I suppose it depends whether you can separate art from artist in those instances. I'm 35, I'm not looking to Maradona to be a leading example of how I should live my life now. I just loved him as a football player. You can hold him up on a sporting pedestal, by still being disgusted by what he did outside of his life. Abusing people is horrendous, and he should be judged for that. Using his addiction against him, is something people have used in the last few days. Had a massive row the other day when someone on the football group chat called him a "Druggy cunt" until I pointed out that 90% of the group had abused drugs and drink for years. But that's a different chat for a different day I suppose. Edited November 29, 2020 by SuperBacon missed a bit for context Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 The guy was no saint, I think that's been well documented. Especially in the English media for God knows how long. Most people I've seen talking about him in glowing terms are doing so from the moment he laced up a pair of those classic Puma boots, until he took off the football shirt at the end of the 90 minutes. I certainly know that's how I see him. A terribly flawed human being, who possibly ended up paying the most out of anyone for his choices in life. He was just the right individual, in the right place, at the right time, and with the right unbelievable skill on a football pitch. As a person? More of a cautionary tale than someone to be revered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Yeah I’m by no means pissing on anyone’s chips here, after all, many people whose work I admire throughout history have killed or abused people (Caravaggio, Kinski, even Oggy and the bloke who scored that diving header on the 87 cup final are tories). And most people can separate the art from the artist, so to speak. I adored El Diego, I loved his football, his politics, his ability to wind up arseholes. In death, I’m not going to forget the dark side. You’re right about the cheat and drug’s hypocrisy. I mean we all know how he had clumps kicked out of him throughout the whole game but that isn’t remembered. Nor is him saying how he couldn’t have scored the second goal against anyone else because they’d have took him down and England were too noble to do that. And for that matter nor is England beating Argentina in 66 by totally nefarious means. #JusticeForRattin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperBacon Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 The always fantastic David Squires on Diego. https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2020/dec/01/david-squires-on-diego-maradona-murals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperBacon Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 Wonderful. Also, completely forgot about this that I won a ticket to and watched live before Christmas. It get's a bit heavy, but it's really interesting around Diego's iconography, and they don't sugar coat anything either. And finally, these are absolutely mint. Get sold out quickly, but if you're interested in any in particular, the guy who runs it is really helpful. https://diegobadges.bigcartel.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavemanLynn Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 12 hours ago, SuperBacon said: Wonderful. That is brilliant. Half of those challenges, you can actually see the defending player slump, go "fuck it, it's Maradona", and have a swing just because there's nothing else he can do. Some quality instances of Diego "choosing" when to take the fall, too. What a worker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Arch Stanton Posted March 4, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted March 4, 2021 He took a great bump from a rear elbow strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) A wonderful little find. I had never seen this before. Edit: Accompanying article. https://www.theguardian.com/football/copa90/2021/mar/12/diego-maradona-last-dance-night-played-toronto Edited March 12, 2021 by SuperBacon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 An often told tale but still well worth a read. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/17/kung-fu-kicks-riot-police-maradona-barcelona-brawl-athletic-bilbao-copa-del-rey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperBacon Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 Enjoy some prime Diego against Empoli from 86/87. Someone in the replies said that he always "statpadded his dribbles against lesser clubs" so I think that's quite enough Twitter for today. Here is also a lovely, candid photo of him popping his Puma Kings on. That would make a good print, not sure if I've ever seen this shot before. If you have more money than sense (and me) you can now buy an official reproduction of the NR Napoli jacket, made in association with Nicola Raccuglia. It's so beautiful I want to cry. https://www.rb-jerseys.com/shop/italian-clubs/naples/1986-87-napoli-nr-nicola-raccuglia-track-jacket/ And finally, I really want these and it's not fair I can't have them. https://www.brixplanet.com/prodotti/9-pack-diego-armando-maradona-collection/?cat=minifigures-personalizzate If I was rich, this is all I would buy with my wealth. Lego figures of famous people and old football shirts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted December 28, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted December 28, 2021 33 minutes ago, SuperBacon said: Someone in the replies said that he always "statpadded his dribbles against lesser clubs" so I think that's quite enough Twitter for today. Ha! Imagine anybody statpadding before this century, when data meant fuck all* *other than Pele and his stupid fucking goal tally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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