Who's the next Man?

[PowerButchi]

PS : wasn't it the fact that they got bomb threats the reason they moved the Hogan VS Slaughter match to a smaller venue?

 

No. Not at all. That just sounds better than "We sold fuck all tickets".

 

 

I mean I don't even who the heels are supposed to be these days....it's like the cocky guy vs the humble guy which is cool but when is the last time you saw a heel act like a right horrible cunt?

 

It's all a bit wishy washy these days.....

 

It really isn't. If the 7 year olds watching can keep up with who's a heel and who's a babyface, then there's no reason why an adult can't.

[stumobir]

PS : wasn't it the fact that they got bomb threats the reason they moved the Hogan VS Slaughter match to a smaller venue?

 

Yup, because the threats were so legitimate they decided killing 16,000 fans was better than killing 60,000.

[Sphinx]

Anyway back on topic Kidd and Hero should be pushed hard

 

No they don't. Well, actually someone more informed than me can say about Hero but I imagine he's going to appeal to people who will watch him vs. Punk and clap along to it all and chant 'you're both awesome'. I suppose with these things you're looking for little traces of signs that someone has potential but from what I've seen, Punk stood out in ROH for his talking much more than Hero stood out in ROH for anything. I'm not even sure why they signed him. Tyson Kidd's a good wrestler, no doubt about it, but he doesn't need to be 'pushed hard'. There's been no indication that the fans will take to him. Saying that, he has a much better chance as a face than he did in that awful heel run.

 

And the sooner Ziggler cashes in a world title and either wins and fails or loses it, the better. I'm sick of hearing how he's the next big thing. He's good as a midcard wrestler, but there's no need to put a title on him. It reeks of desperation to me. Saying that, he does need to try get over by himself rather than with Vickie in the midcard. That's a real litmus test for whether he's going to work higher up the card anyway.

[Stormy Weathers]

Ha ha I will concede defeat on the whole racial divides sell bit....

 

But in 5 years when your all wearing Kidd shirts I want an apology

[PowerButchi]

Yeah, there's about as much chance of that happening then there is of Mae West raping Zsa Zsa Gabor.

[Sexy Dad]

Sheamus most definitely, they're already testing the water with him and he still has long programs with Orton and Punk waiting for him to solidify him further. If he turns the cheese factor down he will appeal to most.

 

If Ryback doesn't really stink up the place now that he is heading towards real feuds I can see him being a mainstay and heading towards the title in the next 18 months.

 

Not too sure on Cesaro but I'd like to see him get his teeth sunk into some good feuds now. From what I have seen thus far he does have potential to climb up the ladder and potentially be the man (not as a face) and his look means he would look at home in the ring with the likes of Sheamus.

[DCW]

I can't see Ziggler ever being the face of the company,if I'm honest I don't even see him being a success when he eventually wins the world title.He hasn't got enough charisma on the mic and most of his heat is due to Vickie being with him more then anything else.

 

Miz might be a decent shout if they turn him carefully, similar to the way Rock was turned.

[air_raid]

Sheamus most definitely, they're already testing the water with him and he still has long programs with Orton and Punk waiting for him to solidify him further. If he turns the cheese factor down he will appeal to most.

 

I'd be quite interested in that one - Punk is excellent at making you want to see him get his head kicked in, and Sheamus is a pretty good kicker of heads. Not sure the world is ready for another go at Sheamus/Orton unless Orton turns heel. Sheamus and Miz have never really gone at it, short of a few attempted briefcase-cashings two years ago, have they?

[stumobir]

I can't believe people are touting Sheamus as the next big thing. WWE is for kids these days and more specifically, American kids, everyone knows it. The next big thing or the next "Man" or however you want to put it needs to be a role model for American kids. Can you really see Yank kids saying how much they love or want to be like that pale, ginger guy on tv with the funny accent? Or their fat American parents allowing them to. No, is the answer.

 

Sheamus is fine as Smackdown's top babyface (even though it's really Orton) but he'll never be the face of WWE.

[fye]

Sheamus has been presented as Smackdown's top star all year and from what I have seen myself he gets pops second only to Orton, who has been positioned further down the card for about a year now. Whether people think he should be or not, Sheamus is clearly being pencilled in as the next main guy

[IANdrewDiceClay]

The next big thing or the next "Man" or however you want to put it needs to be a role model for American kids. Can you really see Yank kids saying how much they love or want to be like that pale, ginger guy on tv with the funny accent?

Not necessarily. When I was a kid I didn't want to grow up with brown skin, a handle bar and horseshoe haircut, but I bought all of Hulk Hogan's shit. Just because you are into someone doesn't mean they are your role model. Sheamus is basically John Cena Jr. at the minute. You rarely see Sheamus leave the ring not coming out on top. Even when he loses, the winner of the match is left on the floor at the end. I cant remember the last time they booked someone this strong. Even Orton isn't dominant a babyface as Sheamus.

[Bellenda Carlisle]

Whoever the next man is you'll never catch John Cena in his sweater

[Sexy Dad]

I can't believe people are touting Sheamus as the next big thing. WWE is for kids these days and more specifically, American kids, everyone knows it. The next big thing or the next "Man" or however you want to put it needs to be a role model for American kids. Can you really see Yank kids saying how much they love or want to be like that pale, ginger guy on tv with the funny accent? Or their fat American parents allowing them to. No, is the answer.

 

Sheamus is fine as Smackdown's top babyface (even though it's really Orton) but he'll never be the face of WWE.

 

Well that's a point, but the Americans love an Irishman, they celebrate St.Patrick's day like no other and claim to be Irish-American if their Great Grandfather came over...he's the best bet at an international face of the company.

 

 

I'd be quite interested in that one - Punk is excellent at making you want to see him get his head kicked in, and Sheamus is a pretty good kicker of heads. Not sure the world is ready for another go at Sheamus/Orton unless Orton turns heel. Sheamus and Miz have never really gone at it, short of a few attempted briefcase-cashings two years ago, have they?

 

I think Orton's heading down the heel route, WWE magazine published an article where he says how he has started kissing babies (mocking traditional goodguy antics) opposed to doing what he does best. At the least; he may assume a tweener role for a feud with Sheamus, the world could handle that...I'd completely forgotten about their last feud until you mentioned it. I reckon Sheamus vs Punk would be great, the two most dominant champs in a while who could produce a new and fresh feud which isn't easy to do these days with so much TV time to fill.

 

I was thinking Miz would return to feud with Sheamus when he was away doing his film. It wasn't to be, but maybe for the best as he is slowly building momentum again. A feud between the two in the future would be pretty entertaining I reckon.

[stumobir]

All very valid points and I don't overly disagree with any of them. I'm not disputing that WWE are pushing fuck out of Sheamus and Ian's right, they've not made anyone look this strong in years. I just can't see them putting a foreigner as the face of their very American brand, I don't doubt that Sheamus would do a good job of it, I just don't think Vinnie Mac or Trips would take the risk.

[Shane O' Mac Version 2]

Hogan/Savage, then Rock/Austin, then Cena/Batista, in the future I think the two top stars will be Sheamus and Miz. Sheamus has been a surprisingly adept babyface, and I think Miz would make a great face, he's starting to get some respect from crowds for his hard work, he's a natural underdog.

 

I know the topic is "Who's the next Man?"- implying one single star, but let's be real; each era has had a main face and heel to work with, and oftentimes the roles would swap between the two main stars to maintain freshness. I don't know if Sheamus vs Miz has been done before, but I think it would be a terrific main event program in a year or two. Cena doesn't seem 35, but given that and his wear and tear, he might not be active in 5 years time, so these guys need to be picked out and established by WWE higher-ups (which is being done already).