Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted January 12, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2012 I was watching Matt Cappotelli get the shit kicked out of him by Bob Holly earlier on, and just thought how all of WWE's so called 'bullies' are gone from WWE. I remember a promo by Scott Steiner where he ripped the piss out of the young wrestlers for having no leaders anymore and he might have a point (actually I think his exact words were "you get on the internet to see if you have a 5 star match - why do you care what these marks think. Ask us, we'll tell you that you SUCK!").There's no Undertaker anymore, Triple H isnt on the road anymore either, Bob Holly's gone, there's no JBL, no Bubba Ray Dudley, no Chris Benoit, no Eddie Guerrero. The stories of someone disrespecting Shawn Michaels, so the leaders in the dressing room sort the trouble makers out seems like a distant memory now. And if you ever watch interviews with wrestlers they usually bring up how the likes of JBL, Holly and Benoit's nutcase like personalities was helpful in their development. Â The marks seem to be the wrestlers these days. For example, the Young Bucks turned up in WWE a few months ago and rubbed all the veterans up the wrong way. And not just in WWE. They pissed off Booker T and Goldust, TNA's Rob Van Dam spoke out against them and even Lance Storm who was just visiting called them dickheads as well. The current roster has no respect for the Rock either when he shows up. Steve Austin on Tough Enough regularly bought up how the attitude's these days make him sick. M-Dogg 20 felt the brunt of it. The culture in wrestling seems to have completely changed now. Anyone think this is a bad thing? I'm not asking for people being bummed in the showers, but there seems to be a proper shift in wrestlers attitudes over the last few years. Just thought it was worth discussing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smegma Cake Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Its a bad thing for sure. I remember reading reports a year or so ago at how Randy Orton was almost the default locker room leader, which is kind of weird. Yes he's been around for a long time but it wasn't so long ago he was the trouble making young punk who needed to be brought down a few levels by the guys you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Eddie Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I think a big part of it is the change in the structure of WWE. These days they are a publicly traded company that caters to a family audience. They have sponsors and shareholder to appease and so the backstage environment has to be far more "safe" than in days past. A lot of the drugs, drink, ribbing elements have been toned back because the last thing WWE wants is embarrassing stuff turning on on youtube videos or talked about on twitter or in shoots. Everyone has to try and be on their best behavior. The days where the Booker patted you on the back for kicking ass in a bar fight are long gone. Â Also, the lack of competition and reliance on the WWE developmental system has also probably affected it. The people coming through have already had it drilled into them that they need to watch their step and stay in line all the time. Plus, if you act the hard man and piss someone off, that's it! You are out the door with very few other full-time wrestling options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Bellenda Carlisle Posted January 12, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2012 I was talking about the "locker room leader" thing to a mate a couple of weeks ago. It's a weird one, on one hand I think now everyone is the same and well behaved and if they're not they're gone so you don't really need the bullies. There's no doubt that having different crazy guys from all over the place with different histories on the indies and ECW/WCW etc and having to be kept in line by psychos like Bob Holly and JBL makes for a more fun and varied locker room. Â It's a bit too clean now, there's hardly any romance left in wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 IMO a locker room leader in the traditional sense is not needed in the WWE any more since the company now has a more hands on approach to taking care of problems these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members martyngnr Posted January 12, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2012 Perhaps not a locker room leader but now that Jericho has returned there will at least be someone with an old-school mentality in WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Red Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Perhaps not a locker room leader but now that Jericho has returned there will at least be someone with an old-school mentality in WWE. Â They already have Darren Young for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Eddie Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Perhaps not a locker room leader but now that Jericho has returned there will at least be someone with an old-school mentality in WWE. Â They already have Darren Young for that! Â Mr "No Days Over" ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Bus Surfer Posted January 12, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2012 How many of the young guys there now actually came up through the traditional ranks? Only asking as I was looking at Kofi Kingston's Wiki page and it seemed he went straight into the WWE without any time elsewhere (I know he was in developmental but that's still WWE) Â Is this the common practice these days? Goes a way towards explaining what Ian is saying if they're all brought up the 'WWE way' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 What are the traditional ranks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted January 12, 2012 Moderators Share Posted January 12, 2012 One of the best things about NXT is listening to William Regal quietly shooting on the younger members of the roster, saying things about while people like Bryan, Barrett and DiBiase come up to him and ask him for advice to improve the rest of them are too busy pissing about on their phones, playing video games and not mithering the senior wrestlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Bus Surfer Posted January 12, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2012 What are the traditional ranks? Â Many years of wrestling for different companies for shitty pay in front of small crowds? Obviously it's different now than when there were territories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Quentin Posted January 12, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2012 For some reason, I imagine Big Show being the main man with the talent these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smegma Cake Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 One of the best things about NXT is listening to William Regal quietly shooting on the younger members of the roster, saying things about while people like Bryan, Barrett and DiBiase come up to him and ask him for advice to improve the rest of them are too busy pissing about on their phones, playing video games and not mithering the senior wrestlers. Â Ditto! His rants are brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members WWFChilli Posted January 12, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2012 I recall an ace story when Funaki was booked to win the Cruiserweight Championship back sometime in 2005/2006, Chavo Guerrero naturally was so annoyed by the bookers messing around with the little lads, that he decided to pick a fight with the Big Show. Chavo swung for him and Big Show was confused as fuck and then shoved Chavo fucking flying when he smacked Show again. Â Completely off-topic but it amuses me. Â Love Regal and his constantly good advice on NXT when it concerns to younger talent. There's something about Regal that always unnerves me, he just looks like randomly he could break your neck just for the sake of it. I'd ask him all the advice in the world tbh since a lot of the lads in WWE need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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