King Pitcos Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Triple H appeared on Busted Open, which airs every Monday and Wednesday on Sirius 92 and XM 207 from 2:00 to 4:00 p.m. Highlights from the interview are as follows: CM Punk’s controversial promo on June 27: “Punk said something about doofus, but he called John Laurinitis douchebag, which is way worse, right? The joke in the back was “at least I’m just a doofus, you’re a douchebag.” If you look at it from that standpoint, he called me a doofus, Stephanie an idiot and Johnny a douchebag, and everyone said “Oh my God!” He tore the roof off the place! He ripped the veil off! And it was like the most crazy promo of all time!” 5 years ago, no one would have blinked. That would have been a tame segment. Everyone would have looked at that promo and said “So what?” he didn’t say anything. In order for that to get the reaction that it did, we had to go where it had to go. “I think sometimes, people think we bumble through this. Especially, and I don’t mean this disparagingly, the internet fan I think sometimes thinks that we throw darts at the wall and fumble around to see what we can come up with next. I mean there is actually a plan to a lot of this stuff, but things change. It’s live television, and people react certain ways and things don’t happen the way you expect them too, and you have to make changes. But there is a plan to a lot of this.” Midcard talent possibly being affected by WWE’s rebranding: “Well I don’t think the end of the brands is here at all. I think it’s for a period of time, it’s trying to give the best shows that we can. If I was a mid-card guy or lower end, certainly I would look at that and go “Oh man, the spot that could have been mine is now Randy Orton’s”. To me, I’m a big believer, You know everyone thinks we make the stars. The guys make themselves. We follow what the fans want. Make yourself relevant. Go out and make yourself relevant. If you have been doing the same thing for years, and you have been getting the same reaction, and you’re in the same spot, change. We tell the guys that all the time and yet they don’t do it. We try to help them. “There is just a different mentality, guys have to be willing and I think a lot of them think that they do, but they have to be willing to go out there and take it. They got to be willing to step on toes. They got to be willing to jump ahead. It’s a business. Be willing to step up and not take no for an answer. I have been a big believer that if you’re good enough, the cream rises to the top and you will get the spot.” The PG product: “We had pushed the envelope so far and you get to a point that after a while, its like, Vince will always use this expression, even though it was completely irrelevant from a timeframe standpoint, but we had “Chainsaw Charlie”. Where do you go after a guy with a chainsaw? But there is a certain point and time where you heard all this stuff on TV you have to pull it back to a point where it almost becomes sterile to get back to a point where you can begin to touch the envelope again where people go “OOH! Like we made it so sterile, like when CM Punk said Ass for the first time, people were like “Oh My God, he said ass!” Where ass was said every 4 seconds for a while. We have to pull it back. Will we ever get where we were before? No, because the world has changed. “I just don’t think you can kind of do that programming now, with the way that the world is. We will never get back all the way there. But I think there is definitely a huge gap between where we were and where we went to. But I think for the right reasons. You have to get to a point where you almost sterilize it to make it seem edgy again. If you just back it off a little bit, it kind of seems a little watered down. So we just took it to where it needed to go to get it back to where it needed to be.” What do you reckon? I don't think we've got many "PG Sux" spastics on here anyway, but I can't see anyone taking issue with his reasoning about that. Regarding the midcard talent, it's hard to know what to make of it without being there. Half of what we hear is that when they make suggestions, they get ignored and punished, but that could just be sour grapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 5 years ago there was no one who was as 'edgy' as CM Punk. He's talking rubbish there. Aside from that I enjoyed reading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 In 2006, Edge was doing Live Sex Celebrations and going on about how all Cena's fans were seven years old. Triple H himself was telling Cena "you're not a very good wrestler." Cryme Tyme were auctioning off Lita's dildos. Kurt Angle was saying he didn't like the black people. Randy Orton was saying just-dead Eddie Guerrero was in hell. Edge put Mick Foley through a flaming table. DX shoved Vince's head up Big Show's arse. RVD mocked the WWE title belt. Mick Foley had storylines there with Terry Funk and Ric Flair around the summer that consisted almost exclusively of insider references, and he won some Wrestling Observer interview award that year for them. There was loads of stuff in 2006 that would have, to borrow one of Ian_Hitmanhart's terms, people throwing babies in the air if it went on nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted September 8, 2011 Moderators Share Posted September 8, 2011 Edge was having the live sex show in the middle of the ring 5 years ago. I'd say that's far more edgy than moaning and making comments that fly over the head of most of the people watching you. EDIT: Pitcos got there first, the git. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merzbow Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 people think we bumble through this Well it's bloody well felt like they have the past few weeks, that may be why people think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Some good points. I dont believe anyone has vocally gone as far as Punk has in breaking the fouth wall though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted September 8, 2011 Moderators Share Posted September 8, 2011 Paul Heyman did on WWE TV a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 Matt Hardy's awful "Lita was married to Kane on TV" promo broke the fourth wall as much as anything else WWE have ever done. That was six years ago, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cum Doctor Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 It was only a year previous that Heyman pulled out the "the only reason JBL was champion for so long is because Triple H didn't wanna work Tuesdays!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JNLister Posted September 8, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted September 8, 2011 Was there really anyone after the Punk promo who was talking about the fact that he used the word "ass"? As far as PG goes, there's a difference between being suitable for children and being aimed at children. A show that has its main segment at 11pm shouldn't have grown men using the term "poop." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted September 8, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted September 8, 2011 Yeah everyone was so excited to hear his first promo but then he said all that "In a storyline Kane was married to Lita but in real life..." bollocks and made himself look like a bellend. I think it's quite incredible that Edge managed to shag his mate's long time girlfriend behind his back and then use it to step up his game to a whole other level and it was the start of his main event push. Shagging that munter Lita was probably the best career move he ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted September 8, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted September 8, 2011 I often think it odd that Raw is on so late and is so child friendly. I can't imagine in this country a show aimed at such a young audience being on at 9 at night. I don't think people are standing around discussing CM Punk saying "ass" but it does give him a little edge after it's been eliminated for the past couple of years. As a result, I've found Punk, Cena, Rock and Triple H much cooler at times this year. As for Trips interview, he talks a good game. I just don't believe him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Scott Malbranque Posted September 8, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted September 8, 2011 Plenty of times the fourth wall has been torn asunder, and HHH is bang on with all of what he said there. WWE went 'U' or 'G' with their rating for a while, so the impact of what's been going down lately seems greater, and yet it's still only a PG product. Fuckin' great marketing if you ask me, and everybody's happy, except those who believe Raw is draining their souls, yet cannot help but "waste" two hours of their lives every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 Was there really anyone after the Punk promo who was talking about the fact that he used the word "ass"? I don't think there was. I recall people going on about Rock and Cena saying "ass" around WrestleMania time, though. As far as PG goes, there's a difference between being suitable for children and being aimed at children. A show that has its main segment at 11pm shouldn't have grown men using the term "poop." Nor the term "roody-poo" but they got away with that for a while as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted September 8, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted September 8, 2011 Nor the term "roody-poo" but they got away with that for a while as well. They just don't compare though. They should and both seem equally crap written down. "Poop" is just the lowest of the low though. It's so very Hannah Montana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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