Yokozuna

[IANdrewDiceClay]

Not all true, they let Foley get his offence in which was one of the worst looking back elbows I've seen, and Davey correctly no sold it to make him look like a bitch.

 

The fact Foley, afterward, went up to the Bulldogs and thanked them says it all, in the end he actually built his career on those sort of bumps

Of course it was a horrible looking back elbow. He was a 20 year old kid in a match where he wasn't meant to do much anyway. Doesn't deserve to have his jaw smashed in when he wasnt expecting it. It isnt real after all, so there's no way of justifying that. I dont care if his offence looked crap. He didnt deserve the treatment he got in that match. You only have to go back and watch it. Foley only thanked him afterwards (if you go back and read his book), because he said you run into the same people on the way up as you do on the way down. He certainly wasnt thanking him for a lesson in how to conduct yourself in the ring. He built he career on stunts where he could have control over how he hurt himself through his own choices. He didnt build his career on getting his jaw broke just because they could do it.

[twelve_grand]

Of course it was a horrible looking back elbow. He was a 20 year old kid in a match where he wasn't meant to do much anyway. Doesn't deserve to have his jaw smashed in when he wasnt expecting it. It isnt real after all, so there's no way of justifying that. I dont care if his offence looked crap. He didnt deserve the treatment he got in that match. You only have to go back and watch it. Foley only thanked him afterwards (if you go back and read his book), because he said you run into the same people on the way up as you do on the way down. He certainly wasnt thanking him for a lesson in how to conduct yourself in the ring. He built he career on stunts where he could have control over how he hurt himself through his own choices. He didnt build his career on getting his jaw broke just because they could do it.

 

For once absolutely agreed. It's a work. Dynamite is a sad man.

[Turnbucklepads]

you can talk about Yoko being complimented for being safe all day, but there's no way he didn't take liberties with them jobbers. He basically drops his entire weight on thier chest at full force.

 

This.

He obviously took liberties with jobbers. Bit of a dangerous one to take though. He could of been up on man slaughter charges.

[garynysmon]

Not all true, they let Foley get his offence in which was one of the worst looking back elbows I've seen, and Davey correctly no sold it to make him look like a bitch.

 

Just watched the match back, and Foley's elbow only looks like crap because Bulldog no-sold it. There's not much wrong with it's execution.

[silvera2006]

you can talk about Yoko being complimented for being safe all day, but there's no way he didn't take liberties with them jobbers. He basically drops his entire weight on thier chest at full force.

 

This.

He obviously took liberties with jobbers. Bit of a dangerous one to take though. He could of been up on man slaughter charges.

 

Good point this...if, worst case scenario, Yoko took such a liberty like the one earlier in the thread ( where he barely even touches his feet on the floor and lands pretty much over the guys throat...), and the jober died of internal bleeding, crush injuries etc....reckon it would actually stand up in court? As the footage shows, its pretty clear that Yoko makes no attempt to protect his opponent. Interesting topic...

[Richie Freebird]

Remember that time when he pulled the top rope right off the ringpost whilst going up for the big arse drop? Was that a planned spot?

[RoryFice]

Remember that time when he pulled the top rope right off the ringpost whilst going up for the big arse drop? Was that a planned spot?

 

Yep it was, against Steve Austin at Summerslam 1996

[Richie Freebird]

Remember that time when he pulled the top rope right off the ringpost whilst going up for the big arse drop? Was that a planned spot?

 

Yep it was, against Steve Austin at Summerslam 1996

 

That

[IANdrewDiceClay]

Your not wrong. Here they are on the box of the Free For All video (which I assume you have to pay for).

[RoryFice]

Remember that time when he pulled the top rope right off the ringpost whilst going up for the big arse drop? Was that a planned spot?

 

Yep it was, against Steve Austin at Summerslam 1996

 

That

[Carbomb]

I always thought the Earthquake splash would be more likely to injure people than the Banzai Drop - there's no holding on to ropes to lessen the momentum.

[Astro Hollywood]

I always thought the Earthquake splash would be more likely to injure people than the Banzai Drop - there's no holding on to ropes to lessen the momentum.

 

Even as an unenlightened kid, the Earthquake splash looked oddly gentle to me.

[The King Of Swing]

Not all true, they let Foley get his offence in which was one of the worst looking back elbows I've seen, and Davey correctly no sold it to make him look like a bitch.

 

Just watched the match back, and Foley's elbow only looks like crap because Bulldog no-sold it. There's not much wrong with it's execution.

 

This.

 

It's similer to the Meiko Satomura incident imo, any offence looks shit if it is no sold.

[Tehlulz]

Not all true, they let Foley get his offence in which was one of the worst looking back elbows I've seen, and Davey correctly no sold it to make him look like a bitch.

 

The fact Foley, afterward, went up to the Bulldogs and thanked them says it all, in the end he actually built his career on those sort of bumps

Of course it was a horrible looking back elbow. He was a 20 year old kid in a match where he wasn't meant to do much anyway. Doesn't deserve to have his jaw smashed in when he wasnt expecting it. It isnt real after all, so there's no way of justifying that. I dont care if his offence looked crap. He didnt deserve the treatment he got in that match. You only have to go back and watch it. Foley only thanked him afterwards (if you go back and read his book), because he said you run into the same people on the way up as you do on the way down. He certainly wasnt thanking him for a lesson in how to conduct yourself in the ring. He built he career on stunts where he could have control over how he hurt himself through his own choices. He didnt build his career on getting his jaw broke just because they could do it.

 

Its all very sad for the jobbers in question, but this is how guys protected the business. If your living is conning people are you really gonna give someone in their second match a chance to blow the con? Didnt think so, your gonna beat em up good so they dont need to sell.

[IANdrewDiceClay]

Its all very sad for the jobbers in question, but this is how guys protected the business. If your living is conning people are you really gonna give someone in their second match a chance to blow the con? Didnt think so, your gonna beat em up good so they dont need to sell.

Protecting the business? Outback Jack was on that roster. It wasnt 1965 with Lou Thesz. It was an era where foam fingers were more over than what went on in the ring. If your living is conning people, dont walk out with a dog under your arm. You cant justify assaulting someone like that.