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It's never said it's not for the title, and even after the match the announcers think he's won it. On Nitro the next night it's glossed over, Piper doesn't give a shit and they never explicitly say anything about it. Hogan and Bischoff focus on lying that Hogan never lost, and they steal the tape so it can't be shown apparently, that's the main focus.  Maybe they went over it on Saturday Night. 

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36 minutes ago, The King of Old School said:

Yeah this is a forgotten gem for sure.

Great event was Starrcade 96, although was always baffled that the Hogan/Piper match wasn't for the belt and can't remember if there was a reason why.

The storyline was Piper wasn't under WCW contract, I think, it was 30 year ago. Although apparently there was plans for Piper to hold the title but obviously.

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15 hours ago, Devon Malcolm said:

I never understood why he used to have to pull the logo off the mic when he did a promo. Just hold it like everyone else, you weirdo.

Always thought it looked like he couldn't hold it properly with the logo on due to his ridiculous hard man MMA gloves. Best pure striker in the game was auld Booger Red!

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Loved American Badass Taker for how absolutely terrible it was. The whole thing smacked of a mid life crisis, especially those snakeskin pants. Got ever better when he had that Jim Johnston "You're Gonna Pay" entrance song. More "real" fighting style, that Hell's Gate submission finisher. 

I loved the aura and spectacle of the Dead Man, but he was undoubtedly most entertaining when he was trying to be less of a cartoon character during the invasion and the ruthless aggression era. 

For another against the grain opinion I really enjoyed JBL's chickenshit heel run as champion. It was pure 1990s bollocks in 2004. If Ted Dibiase had won the tournament at Mania 4 he'd have had the exact same title run into Mania 5. Did they do one of those "if JBL is counted out he will lose the title" spots during one of his matches? It absolutely sounds like the kind of thing they'd have done for him. 

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1 hour ago, Jazzy G said:

For another against the grain opinion I really enjoyed JBL's chickenshit heel run as champion. It was pure 1990s bollocks in 2004.

I did too! I was pretty deflated when he won the title from Eddie Guerrero as he was one of my all time favourites, but JBL was really good in the role and actually ended up being a strong heel having some fun matches along the way. On the whole, it was a dark time for Smackdown with the likes of Kenzo Suzuki, Heidenreich, Luther Reigns and Renee Dupree stinking up the card, but I think everything JBL was involved in with was actually good. And he was the perfect person for John Cena to win his first title from. 

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I didn't mind JBL either. He leaned into the ridiculousness of him being champion with the 'wrestling god' stuff and his naff faction. He did a better job with Cena than H did with Orton too. JBL did pretty much everything to get Cena over, while insecure Hunter happily cut Orton off at the knees at the first opportunity. 

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9 minutes ago, DCW said:

I didn't mind JBL either. He leaned into the ridiculousness of him being champion with the 'wrestling god' stuff and his naff faction. He did a better job with Cena than H did with Orton too. JBL did pretty much everything to get Cena over, while insecure Hunter happily cut Orton off at the knees at the first opportunity. 

The only person Triple H ever put over properly in his entire career was Batista. Triple H just couldn't ever bare to risk not looking cool. Absolute twat.

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I'm convinced he only put Batista over because Batista was a good bit older and quite injury prone, so Triple H didn't see him as much of a threat as young Randy, who got over by being cool before winning the WHC. Triple H couldn't have that. 

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8 minutes ago, LaGoosh said:

The only person Triple H ever put over properly in his entire career was Batista. Triple H just couldn't ever bare to risk not looking cool. Absolute twat.

And Daniel Bryan, eventually. 

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6 minutes ago, LaGoosh said:

He put him over but he didn't get him over. He only did that for Batista. 

I dunno, that Wrestlemania match help cement him as an icon I think. They went about it in the complete wrong way with all the build up, but I think it ended up being totally effective, and Trips was pretty instrumental in the match. 

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HHH was utter shite but he did a decent job putting over Henry O Godwin in the Arkansas hog pen match at one of the In Your House shows in 1995. One of the better matches of his career along with the match against Bushwhacker Butch at the Kuwait Cup. But outside of those matches he’s generally worthless.

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3 hours ago, LaGoosh said:

The only person Triple H ever put over properly in his entire career was Batista. Triple H just couldn't ever bare to risk not looking cool. Absolute twat.

And he still ended up beating him in his retirement match. The Game has to pose brother. 

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2 hours ago, Chico Torres said:

HHH was utter shite but he did a decent job putting over Henry O Godwin in the Arkansas hog pen match at one of the In Your House shows in 1995. One of the better matches of his career along with the match against Bushwhacker Butch at the Kuwait Cup. But outside of those matches he’s generally worthless.

Much like I'll defend the Roberts/Martel blindfold match, that Hogpen match is a bit of a decent banger. It's got one of those you forget who won finished too because you just remember Hunter pratfalling with that horrible gash on his back. He had decent chemistry with opponents you forget, like Henry Godwinn or Duke Droese. Genuinely decent lower card alright matches with really rubbish day job characters Right before that Curtain Call incident that ruined his career.

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3 hours ago, gmoney said:

 

I dunno, that Wrestlemania match help cement him as an icon I think. They went about it in the complete wrong way with all the build up, but I think it ended up being totally effective, and Trips was pretty instrumental in the match. 

I think with the Yes movement etc he was already over and Tripper saw a chance to insert himself into it and try to claim some of the credit.

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