UKFF Questions Thread v3

[BomberPat]

10 minutes ago, Loki said:

Just watching the Netflix series "Wrestlers" and from time to time they use WWF footage but it's clearly ripped from YouTube, often even with the ripper's logo or web address still visible.

Surely using any WWF/E content in another show would require permission from WWE, and if obtained you'd get a decent quality copy?  Or have Netflix just decided to literally steal stuff off Youtube and hope nobody from WWE comes calling?

I think it comes down to the vagaries of Fair Use law; by specifically using the version of the footage owned by WWE, they would probably have to pay them to use it, whereas because the show is classed as a documentary, they'll be able to get away with using other footage for a limited period.

There's also the weird loophole that Dark Side Of The Ring use, where there's something about how they film a TV screen showing the footage, and that somehow qualifies under a different license or something. 

[truthofsin]

Is the 5th WCCW Parade of Champions available in full? 

[Roy]

When Davey Boy Smith was making a comeback in the WWF in 1999, there was a sit-down interview with JR that he and Diana recorded. I remember it was hyped for a Raw epsiode, but when the time came, it didn't air at all. 

In subsequent years, clips from it have made various WWE documentaries but does anyone know a) the reason why it didn't air and b) what he discussed? My assumption is that he went into detail about some of the drug issues he was having along with issues with WCW and perhaps, from a company and legal standpoint, neither were good ground to be covering.

[air_raid]

It was too bizarre.

[Dr. Alan Grant]

A question most likely for @air_raid. Who’s on commentary here? Gorilla obviously, but there’s another voice I can’t place. Might even be 2 other people. 

[Donald J Trump]

Stan Lane?

[air_raid]

5 minutes ago, Donald J Trump said:

Stan Lane?

Give the man a goldfish.

Still waiting on Harts vs Headshrinkers to surface from the same week of tapings....

Edited May 8, 2024 by air_raid
Here's the story of two brothers, Rick and Scott. they don't use drugs and they're always on top...

[Dr. Alan Grant]

Thanks, folks. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him on commentary before. Now I have to try and find the full match. 

[air_raid]

5 minutes ago, Dr. Alan Grant said:

Thanks, folks. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him on commentary before. Now I have to try and find the full match. 

It's worth the time.

https://www.facebook.com/traditionsofwrestling/videos/the-steiner-brothers-vs-the-hart-brotherswwf-wrestling-challenge-1301994wrestlin/1137931929944946/

[Donald J Trump]

4 minutes ago, air_raid said:

It's worth the time.

https://www.facebook.com/traditionsofwrestling/videos/the-steiner-brothers-vs-the-hart-brotherswwf-wrestling-challenge-1301994wrestlin/1137931929944946/

Thanks for that. What a great find. You wouldn't be too upset if you got that as a main event. Bearing in mind the fayre WWF were regularly serving at the time, as a youngster I found Owen Hart genuinely exciting to watch and I looked forward to his matches more than any other. It's easy to take it for granted now, but he was the first name I looked for on a card.

I've got a feeling I'll watch this more than once. 

[air_raid]

Just now, Donald J Trump said:

I've got a feeling I'll watch this more than once. 

It's doing the rounds again on Twitter and our Ian has shared that Scotty says they found out they were wrestling for the WrestleFest tape on the night so essentially the four of them went out there and made it all up on the spot, as they went. Bit weird to think that by this time in Jan'94 the Steiners had already upset the office and wanted to leave so they could have freedom to go get paid to do Japan tours, and had their Quebecers rematch for Mania X scrubbed, but same bosses were like "we can still use them to sell a video tape before they leave."

[Dr. Alan Grant]

I found another version with the sound in sync on Daily Motion. A really fun match. That modified piledriver to Owen made me wince. 

[air_raid]

1 hour ago, Dr. Alan Grant said:

I found another version with the sound in sync on Daily Motion. A really fun match. That modified piledriver to Owen made me wince. 

Yeah. Funny comments I saw about "Did Taker have anything to say about that"... I don't think old Mark was as precious about the Tombstone as people think. Owen splattered Bret with a standard Tombstone at Mania X that looked miles better than his, nothing ever came out the back of that. Although if it had, maybe Austin wouldn't have been hurt in the end.

[wandshogun09]

I love that match. I remember hearing about it but never had the WrestleFest 94 tape. I tracked it down years later when we got internet and bought the VHS solely for that match. Didn’t regret it.

I‘ve said it before whenever that match comes up on here but it’s a travesty we never got a Bret & Owen vs 123 Kid & Marty Jannetty match around that time. I’m sure Bret even teased it possibly happening in an interview before the Quebecers match at Rumble 94. The Steiners vs Kid & Marty would’ve been ace as well. Imagine how far and how high Rick and Scott could’ve thrown and suplexed those two?

While we’re on the subject of great tag team matches, one of my favourites has always been the Hart Foundation vs Brain Busters from SummerSlam 89. Has Bret ever talked about that match in any interviews? He’s got such a great memory when it comes to matches in his career but I think I’ve watched every shoot interview he’s done and I can’t recall ever hearing him talk about working with Arn and Tully. Been years since I read his book but surely he mentions it in there? 

Edited May 8, 2024 by wandshogun09

[air_raid]

33 minutes ago, wandshogun09 said:

I‘ve said it before whenever that match comes up on here but it’s a travesty we never got a Bret & Owen vs 123 Kid & Marty Jannetty match around that time. I’m sure Bret even teased it possibly happening in an interview before the Quebecers match at Rumble 94. The Steiners vs Kid & Marty would’ve been ace as well. Imagine how far and how high Rick and Scott could’ve thrown and suplexed those two?

Let's crack that week open from the archives ;

On 3/21/2022 at 7:32 PM, wandshogun09 said:

I’d like to see that. Well, just more Bret and Owen as a team in general really. I love that the match with the Steiners happened and was recorded and shown but it’s a shame we never got more of them teaming before they started the split properly. It’s criminal we never got at least one Bret & Owen vs 123 Kid & Marty Jannetty match somewhere between Survivor Series 93 and Royal Rumble 94. They could’ve had some belters with the Headshrinkers and the Heavenly Bodies around that time as well. 

 

On 7/18/2022 at 9:04 AM, air_raid said:

This is of course is the Raw where Kid and Marty wins the tag belts. Next night in Florence there's Bret vs Shawn from Coliseum and FUCKING HELL, there's Kid & Marty vs The Headshrinkers for the tag belts which is loads of fun and the LEGENDARY Bret & Owen vs Steiner Brothers match, both of which you saw on WrestleFest 94. Next night in Fayetteville is nowhere near as fun ; Yoko vs Tatanka as featured on Bloopers Bleeps & Bodyslams (which didnt get a UK release but I had a ropey copy as "Dark Matches" from a trader) and another Razor/Borga Dusty finish the same as last month in Lowell.

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33 minutes ago, wandshogun09 said:

While we’re on the subject of great tag team matches, one of my favourites has always been the Hart Foundation vs Brain Busters from SummerSlam 89. Has Bret ever talked about that match in any interviews? He’s got such a great memory when it comes to matches in his career but I think I’ve watched every shoot interview he’s done and I can’t recall ever hearing him talk about working with Arn and Tully. Been years since I read his book but surely he mentions it in there? 

I'll check when I get home.