Kfogg1991 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 32 minutes ago, Egg Shen said: oh aye, good spot Kfogg.Β As much as it'll be good to see, it still isnt ideal, Masvidal stepping in on a weeks notice to fight Usman is probably not a wise move. Id assume Masvidal is in decent nick because he was negotiated to fight him originally, but i wouldnt favour many people against Usman unless fully prepared. Any other person in this position i would agree but i genuinely think Masvidal will have been training for this fight as i just read this was originally supposed to be the main event for this ppv anyway then the whole money thing came up. Jorge Isn't a stupid guy by any means, he wouldn't offer to step up and fight if he didn't think he was ready, as we all know you can get 1 title shot and that's your lot for ages. He wouldn't squander that i genuinely believe that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted July 5, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted July 5, 2020 I aint so sure, if Masvidal knows heΒ can command the money he wanted plus perhaps more, i think he'd go in there and roll the dice.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 5, 2020 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 5, 2020 Bit of a surprise that, if it ends up happening. Either the UFC bent and gave Masvidal more dough or heβs been lured by the opportunity of the title shot and thinks he might catch Usman off guard. Bit surprised ifΒ Usman has accepted this as well. Everyoneβs talking about Masvidalβs prep or lack of but Usmanβs been training for Burns who hasΒ quite a different set of skills that Jorge. Itβs an interesting one. Iβm a bit disappointed though, to be honest. Usman vs Burns was the one for me and now even if Usman beats Masvidal easily, heβll probably not want straight back in there so itβll delay the Burns fight whatever happens.Β Like Egg said, this isnβt ideal for anyone. Donβt know why the UFC feel like they need to cobble together this fight right now. This card didnβt need it, Usman vs Burns couldβve been rebooked for August or September. Maybe itβs Usman whoΒ wanted it though. He hasnβt fought since December and I guess he just wants to keep the ball rolling on his momentum and get another payday in. I hope he wins. Iβd hate to see Masvidal fuck things up under these circumstances.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted July 5, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted July 5, 2020 John Morgan is doing a blog about his time on Fight Island, good insight to whats going on there (with pics!): https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2020/07/ufc-fight-island-updates-behind-the-scenes-from-abu-dhabi/amp?taid=5f01969017654f00015ac21c&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A Trending Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 5, 2020 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 5, 2020 These fan made posters are ace... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, wandshogun09 said: Donβt know why the UFC feel like they need to cobble together this fight right now. If this card was taking place at the Apex, they probably would have sidelined Usman. However: I was scratching my head before reading Helwani's Tweet.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted July 5, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, wandshogun09 said: Interested to see that Prochazka is a sizeable underdog against Volkan, ive eyed that up for the betslip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Holloway is out now due to weight cutting issues.Β Was it 151 that got cancelled completely?Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 5, 2020 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Kfogg1991 said: Any other person in this position i would agree but i genuinely think Masvidal will have been training for this fight as i just read this was originally supposed to be the main event for this ppv anyway then the whole money thing came up. Jorge Isn't a stupid guy by any means, he wouldn't offer to step up and fight if he didn't think he was ready, as we all know you can get 1 title shot and that's your lot for ages. He wouldn't squander that i genuinely believe that Sorry just seen this. I think youβre being a tad optimistic Fogg. I could be wrong but I wouldnβt be surprised if Masvidal hadnβt even started training forΒ Usman. And while Usman vs Masvidal was the original plan, it never got past the negotiation stage as Masvidal wasnβt happy with the money. I doubt heβd have started camp before the $ figureΒ was in place. Plus thereβd already been speculation that Masvidal was probably not going to fight Usman next and Iβm sure he was hinting at/trying to goad Conor McGregor and Nate DiazΒ into something on social media around that time,Β even though he was thought to be next in line for Usman.Β Not saying he was scared of Usman or anything. But it kind of makes sense that heβd be angling for more favourable style fightsΒ against bigger and more popular names like ConorΒ and Diaz than a bit of a nightmare matchup with Usman. Those are fights that he has a decent shot of winning AND possibly makes more money in. On top of that, Masvidal isnβt known as a year-roundΒ gym rat. Heβs not a GSP type who was always in the gym even when he never had a fight booked.Β Heβs a Cuban boy who loves his foodΒ and probably gets all chubby between camps. And itβs not like Burns has a rep for pulling out of fights. Obviously it was COVID not an injury but still, with how consistentlyΒ active Burns is, I doubt Masvidal was training in expectation of Burns pulling out. Of all the fights you couldβve seen falling apart over the next month, Usman vs Burns seemed pretty safe to me. Both are rarely injured and they stay in shape. COVID can throw a spanner into anything though. But when you add in MasvidalβsΒ gripes over hisΒ money as well, IΒ find it hard to imagine Jorge was doing much training over the last few weeks. Probably a lot of scoffing chips and drinking Coke though. And lastly, even if Jorge was fooling everyone and was smashing it in the gym the last month, we know Usman has too. AndΒ even a fully fit Masvidal isnβt a good matchup style-wise for Usman. People forget now but not many were fancying Jorge to beat Ben Askren a year ago. And there was good reason for that. Masvidal can be outgrappled and smothered. And Usman is a better and much more well rounded and athletic, in primeΒ versionΒ of Askren. Masvidalβs good, but people have got swept up in his wins over Askren (who retired not long after and had hip replacement surgery) and Diaz whoβs lost as many as heβs won at the higher levels. Iβd favour Usman over Masvidal probably 8 times out of 10 if they both had a good 2 months of camp. But under these circumstances, Jorgeβs chances are even slimmer. All thatβs giving me doubt is the old βlate replacement curseβ and the fact itβs 2020 and everythingβs fucked up. Nah, Usmanβs going to spank him. π³π¬Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kfogg1991 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Marshmallo said: Holloway is out now due to weight cutting issues.Β Was it 151 that got cancelled completely?Β no he's not and masvidal vs usman is the main event pending the covid test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 That fake Helwani account got me π Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kfogg1991 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: That fake Helwani account got me π it got me too don't worry and ben askren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 5, 2020 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: That fake Helwani account got me π Yep. How many fake Helwaniβs areΒ there on Twitter now? Fuckβs sake man. My heart nearlyΒ dropped through my bum hole when I read your other post. Fuck Ariell Helwanii.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: That fake Helwani account got me π Most of us have been thereΒ π Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 5, 2020 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 5, 2020 Yeah. I got done badly by that fake BoxingKingdom one a while back, as you took great joy in pointing out Jim π Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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