Scottish Football Discussion Thread 2010/11

[Kenny McBride]

Questioned incorrect refereeing decisions?

 

Starting with this then, because he didn't just question the decisions. He harped on and on, even MONTHS after decisions he'd complain about them, putting pressure on referees, which is pretty fucking stupid considering the pressure that they are already under. It was bordering on harrassment the way he went on.

 

Have you ever heard of Alex Ferguson, World's Greatest Ever Football Manager ? Harrassing referees is a way of life for him and he got a fucking knighthood and the permanent adulation of virtually everyone in the footballing world. His shit is at least as bad as what Lennon did, since Lennon actually had proof that a referee had lied to his face and then saw the SFA close ranks to protect the liar. Oh, and then the head of refereeing circulated an email slurring the pope, despite being only too aware of the religious sensitivities surrounding Lennon and his personal safety and the generally combustible atmosphere of football in Glasgow. I'm not saying Hugh Dallas is a bigot or biased or anything, but in the circumstances, he was INCREDIBLY stupid.

 

Cupped his ear to chants of, "what's it like to live in fear?"?

 

Days after a letter bomb was sent? How fucking thick do you have to be to do that? And then coming out with "oh, they can't take a joke". Aye right. He knew full well what he was doing. You see, most people would just let the singing go and be the bigger man, but Neil Lennon isn't capable of that. Why? Because he's a cunt.

 

Better question - how big a cunt do you have to be to sing that days after a man's had his life threatened by one of your own? "We are all Trevor Muirhead and Neil McKenzie" eh? There are times I wish Neil Lennon would shut his mouth and just get on with the game - his comments about teams not trying against Rangers was really fucking stupid, for example - but I was actually proud of him for that gesture. It said "aye, sing all you want you sick cunts. You don't scare me."

 

And then of course we can go back and look at him landing double foot stomps on the head of fellow players as well. That can be my three.

 

He could be a scrappy bastard, granted. But look at his disciplinary record - four career red cards, only two of which were at Celtic, and one of those was for telling Stuart Dougal he was a joke. He doesn't come close to any number of other (better) players who play in that position. There's actually an interesting article here about that incident with Dougal which looks all the more interesting now. The campaign against Lennon from all sides has been going on for a long time. It would be bad enough if he were just anyone, but for a guy with a well-known mental health problem who's faced so much shit already throughout his time in Scotland (and at home in Ireland too), it's fucking despicable. There's no other word for it. EVERY manager has done a few bad things, said a few dodgy things, wound someone up when he shouldn't. Almost every player has gone in late a few times, started shit he didn't need to or wound up the fans or the opposition for no good reason. None of them - NONE - has taken the abuse Neil Lennon has. Well, except for Niall McGinn, Paddy McCourt, Paul McBride and Trish Godman. Saying things like "he brings some of it on himself" or "of course it's wrong, but..." makes you part of the problem, because ultimately you're saying that at some level, this is all Neil Lennon's fault. It sickens me. It really does.

[dangerously420]

The tims have been known across football for some time as ambulance chasers (as much as they like to paint a picture that they are loved the world over, they are known equally for their love of chasing a topic for some sympathy) but this "WE ARE ALL NEIL LENNON. I AM NEIL LENNON" stuff is absolute gold. I've also spoken to a few Celtic fans that I have spoken to that have tried to brush of losing the title by saying things like "I'd rather we all supported Neil Lennon than win the league" or "The huddle at Parkhead today was better than any championship". Clearly, having won fuck all for so long, the majority of the Celtic support have forgotten what it feels like to be champions.

 

Incidentially "The mass huddle" was another thing blatently stolen and proclaimed as their own by the Celtic support. Even though it was clearly stolen from Manchester City who in turn stole it from lech Pozan.

 

Tenner says the first tim reply is "Aye, but we were doing it before Pozan. We've been doing it since the days of the Lisbon Lions" Or something along those lines.

 

Quote of the day yesterday went to a friend of mine who text:

 

"I'd rather be a runner up, than a hun"

 

I'd rather be a champion than a pape.

 

I assume you are friends with fellow East Kilbride biggot Graeme Cawley?

[Dazz]

The inability of Celtic supporters to take a step back and say "Perhaps Lennon should learn to simmer down" is beyond me.

 

As I've said, I don't wish anything that's happened to him upon anyone. He's suffered torridly off the park. which should be a catalyst for him being a shining beacon to his club.

 

Instead he does some silly antics.

 

I don't think it's wrong to be passionate about your club, in fact, I champion that. If every manager had passion, the game would be incredible. I think though, that, given the "Powderkeg" fixture that the old firm is, and given that there's been so much scrutiny about off the field behaviour, and all the other stuff that's been going on, it'd be much better if the management just walked down the tunnel and not played up to things and gave people a reason to say ".. well, if he's doing that, he's trying to incite.

 

The manager shouldn't be deliberately antagonising the opposition support. In fact, the manager should be focused on the big green area in front of him, and deal with any condemning, praising, or brown nosing of support in his post match interviews. Meaning that anything that happens in the open in the stadia is FOOTBALL being the focus, not stupidity, and giving even more ammunition to the haters. ESPECIALLY in the old firm.

 

Perhaps the likes of Jose, and co maybe "do worse" than Lennon, but the volatility of the fixtures (Largely) do not mirror that of the Old Firm.

 

All I'm saying is, perhaps, Lenny should focus on being a manager, and not a performer.

 

EDIT : Incidentally, I never heard the "What's it like to live in fear" chants, and I was working at the ground... Just sayin.

[The Cum Doctor]

Celtic were doing that Poznan thing at Cappielow way before Man City played them. Anyways...

 

Have you ever heard of Alex Ferguson, World's Greatest Ever Football Manager

[FUM]

The tims have been known across football for some time as ambulance chasers (as much as they like to paint a picture that they are loved the world over, they are known equally for their love of chasing a topic for some sympathy) but this "WE ARE ALL NEIL LENNON. I AM NEIL LENNON" stuff is absolute gold. I've also spoken to a few Celtic fans that I have spoken to that have tried to brush of losing the title by saying things like "I'd rather we all supported Neil Lennon than win the league" or "The huddle at Parkhead today was better than any championship". Clearly, having won fuck all for so long, the majority of the Celtic support have forgotten what it feels like to be champions.

 

Incidentially "The mass huddle" was another thing blatently stolen and proclaimed as their own by the Celtic support. Even though it was clearly stolen from Manchester City who in turn stole it from lech Pozan.

 

Tenner says the first tim reply is "Aye, but we were doing it before Pozan. We've been doing it since the days of the Lisbon Lions" Or something along those lines.

 

Quote of the day yesterday went to a friend of mine who text:

 

"I'd rather be a runner up, than a hun"

 

I'd rather be a champion than a pape.

 

Most Celtic fans I've heard mention it admit it was taken from Lech Poznan. However, Man City did not do it before Celtic fans, that is bullshit.

[David]

Neil Lennon doesn't deserve bombs, bullets and death threats but....

 

There are managers in countries all around the world with antagonistic personalites. Not one of them has had a season like Neil Lennon has experienced.

Okay, well, in that case why don't you tell us all why Lennon gets the treatment he does? Why does he get the bomb threats and the grief?

[martyngnr]

Neil Lennon doesn't deserve bombs, bullets and death threats but....

 

There are managers in countries all around the world with antagonistic personalites. Not one of them has had a season like Neil Lennon has experienced.

Okay, well, in that case why don't you tell us all why Lennon gets the treatment he does? Why does he get the bomb threats and the grief?

The Lennon "rifle" picture is certainly one of the reasons.

[Jonny Vegas]

To all those of the 'Neil Lennon brings it on himself' opinion...which I personally think is a complete and utter load of nonsense...can one of you please explain to me what Niall McGinn and Paddy McCourt did to 'bring it on themselves'?

 

Genuine question.

[Dazz]

To all those of the 'Neil Lennon brings it on himself' opinion...which I personally think is a complete and utter load of nonsense...can one of you please explain to me what Niall McGinn and Paddy McCourt did to 'bring it on themselves'?

 

Genuine question.

 

Absolutely nothing. Just targets of mindless morons (as is Lennon)... The point we're making is, that Lennon, as a character, has many dislikable traits, and if he toned em down a bit, and became what a football manager should be, then he might be more tolerable.

 

It's disgusting that anyone gets what happened to McCourt, McGinn and Lennon. I'm not disagreeing with that, I'm just saying the man needs to learn when to act dignified, as a manager should.

[sgmilne]

There's two separate issues at play.

 

Nobody deserves to have bullets sent to them, or be attacked in the dugout - absolutely nobody.

 

But a great many people cannot stand Neil Lennon because he acts like a cunt - unbiased observers look at how he (and Celtic as a club) have acted this season and just think 'Jeeeesus Christ'. We're entitled to think he's a cunt without it being because of his religion. Lots of people think Mark McGhee is a cunt - people supposedly spat on the guy - and that has nothing to do with his religion.

 

That line yesterday about how people in Scottish Football need to take a look at themselves? Jesus Christ. Who in FOOTBALL - not idiotic bigots - has acted worse than the likes of Neil Lennon and John Reid this season? Absolutely incredible stuff.

[FUM]

To all those of the 'Neil Lennon brings it on himself' opinion...which I personally think is a complete and utter load of nonsense...can one of you please explain to me what Niall McGinn and Paddy McCourt did to 'bring it on themselves'?

 

Genuine question.

 

Absolutely nothing. Just targets of mindless morons (as is Lennon)... The point we're making is, that Lennon, as a character, has many dislikable traits, and if he toned em down a bit, and became what a football manager should be, then he might be more tolerable.

 

It's disgusting that anyone gets what happened to McCourt, McGinn and Lennon. I'm not disagreeing with that, I'm just saying the man needs to learn when to act dignified, as a manager should.

 

Act like Walter Smith I suppose you're saying?

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...p;v=T7nViAiKWeI

 

 

 

 

 

It's amazing how he is regarded as Mr Dignity.

[Dazz]

There's two separate issues at play.

 

Nobody deserves to have bullets sent to them, or be attacked in the dugout - absolutely nobody.

 

But a great many people cannot stand Neil Lennon because he acts like a cunt - unbiased observers look at how he (and Celtic as a club) have acted this season and just think 'Jeeeesus Christ'. We're entitled to think he's a cunt without it being because of his religion. Lots of people think Mark McGhee is a cunt - people supposedly spat on the guy - and that has nothing to do with his religion.

 

That line yesterday about how people in Scottish Football need to take a look at themselves? Jesus Christ. Who in FOOTBALL - not idiotic bigots - has acted worse than the likes of Neil Lennon and John Reid this season? Absolutely incredible stuff.

 

Agreed.

 

I couldn't give a fuck if Lennon is Hindu, Scientologist, Catholic, or Jewish.. It doesn't stop him being an utter bawbag.. Which is the bigger issue here, as was said above.

[Dazz]

To all those of the 'Neil Lennon brings it on himself' opinion...which I personally think is a complete and utter load of nonsense...can one of you please explain to me what Niall McGinn and Paddy McCourt did to 'bring it on themselves'?

 

Genuine question.

 

Absolutely nothing. Just targets of mindless morons (as is Lennon)... The point we're making is, that Lennon, as a character, has many dislikable traits, and if he toned em down a bit, and became what a football manager should be, then he might be more tolerable.

 

It's disgusting that anyone gets what happened to McCourt, McGinn and Lennon. I'm not disagreeing with that, I'm just saying the man needs to learn when to act dignified, as a manager should.

 

Act like Walter Smith I suppose you're saying?

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...p;v=T7nViAiKWeI

 

 

 

 

 

It's amazing how he is regarded as Mr Dignity.

Good fucking Grief.

 

 

I'm not saying he's a shining beacon of all that is wonderful in football management, but I'm saying that, in an old firm fixture, dogged by a LOT of issues, inciting the crowd with a childish antic, is perhaps not the best way of doing things.

 

And like another poster has said, the whole "poor celtic" campaign that he was the posterchild for is just downright embarrassing for the Scottish game.

[The Cum Doctor]

Act like Walter Smith I suppose you're saying?

 

Nobody's saying that other than you.

[David]

There's no real point in arguing with the Celtic-minded on this forum. They aren't going to accept any other answer than it being a religious issue, with some sort of deep, ingrained anti-Irish, anti-Catholic bias being prevalent in Scotland.

 

I'd just like to point out, my father was born in Waterford, Ireland. I have more claim to being "Irish" than most of these jokers I see stoating around Glasgow with their Eire shirts and their chip on their shoulder.

 

My dad laughs at all of this shit. He's worked in Scotland, lived in Scotland, socialised in Scotland and has never encountered any real sign of anti-Catholic or anti-Irish bias anywhere here.

 

He was a Celtic fan, and intentionally raised me to support the local team in order to break away from the shit that comes with the Old Firm, as he saw how things were heading.

 

He'll be the first to tell you that the problem is fucking morons. Plain and simple. From both sides.

 

It just so happens that they latch onto religion and bigotry as a way to give their moronic behaviour some sort of legitimacy.