Paid Members Carbomb Posted June 29, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted June 29, 2011 Are you under the impression that I have any faith in our Government? Â Nah, you strike me as pretty level-headed. Just that the way you worded your statement, it sounded like you were saying it's idiotic that we place faith in the EU and move away from our government. My mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I have more then enough contempt to go around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted June 29, 2011 Awards Moderator Share Posted June 29, 2011 Tremendous article on Michele Bachmann. I'm scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JNLister Posted July 1, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) Striking teachers are murderers: official Edited July 1, 2011 by JNLister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Dammer Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Striking teachers are murderers: official  Saw this, incredible. If it was somebody else they would have ran witht he line 'Man crushed by tree as he was sitting there because he was unemployed due to government cuts'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Fucking hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) Thank God those horrible, dangerous 'park' things and those death trap 'trees' are all closed and clearly marked as off-limits when the kids are off school for 6 weeks shortly, or there's no telling what sort of bloodbath we could have on our hands. Edited July 1, 2011 by Magnum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I would like to make the argument that since my Nephew was not hit by a car walking to School the teachers strike in fact saved his life. Â The Daily Mail is a national disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Dammer Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 The Daily Mail is a national embarrassment. Â Fixed, although both are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 True enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Psygnosis Posted July 2, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted July 2, 2011 http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jul...t-cuts-disabled http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13999852 Â Legal action threatened against the Government over DLA cuts - whilst I think welfare reform should happen, I think DLA and anything that helps the physically or mentally ill should remain untouched - from what I've heard its hard enough to get as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patiirc Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jul...t-cuts-disabled http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13999852 Â Legal action threatened against the Government over DLA cuts - whilst I think welfare reform should happen, I think DLA and anything that helps the physically or mentally ill should remain untouched - from what I've heard its hard enough to get as it is. Â Bugger, that's 80 quid a month nearly could do without losing, yes I do get the low care bit. Me and knives and stuff dont get on among other things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jul...t-cuts-disabled http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13999852 Â Legal action threatened against the Government over DLA cuts - whilst I think welfare reform should happen, I think DLA and anything that helps the physically or mentally ill should remain untouched - from what I've heard its hard enough to get as it is. Bugger, that's 80 quid a month nearly could do without losing, yes I do get the low care bit. Me and knives and stuff dont get on among other things It's reasons like this Pat that some of us could never understand you arguing in favour of Government cuts to services such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Psygnosis Posted July 2, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted July 2, 2011 With a 60% appeal success rate, speaks for itself how the pilot in Burnley and Aberdeen went, by the way an appeal costs the taxpayer an extra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patiirc Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 It's reasons like this Pat that some of us could never understand you arguing in favour of Government cuts to services such as this.  I'm for cuts in principle as long as they are properly thought out and aren't blanket cuts, because its easier or cheaper. Not a case of 'I'm alright, Jack' stuff, but more of actually spending the time researching what is actually needed and what isnt. The college thing for 30 quid or whatever being replaced because, the usage was not for purpose largely is one example. Yes, there are people who need the cash to get to college and what not but they are 'apparently' being catered for in the revised solution to this ( and I hope that it does work), rather than it being a sub for pocket money effectively as it appears to be the case  In cases like the DLA its cost effective not to go case by case and weed out those who are abusing the system so that its done properly and fairly, hence the we will skim and scrimp here by just removing it completely. There are other issues such as the 'media spun shirker' and everyone can name those abusing the system and so on. Ergo, that's fine to wipe them from getting dosh. Its a shame that they forget the other people who actually need it and offer no replacement in this case. other than a lower Universal benefit, where as as per above the revised system would incorporate those who actually need it. Essentially, its the double standards that go in to these things which annoys. If you are going to do it do it properly and not take the easy option as by actually sitting down and sorting it out would be better for everybody ( those getting the benefit, administration of the benefit and cost savings, future governments etc in the long run) but it very very rarely works that  As an aside but general politics related, did I read that Geert Wilders has been cleared of being anti Muslim in the Netherlands because it was found to be acceptable public debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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