Paid Members Carbomb Posted July 23, 2009 Paid Members Share Posted July 23, 2009 If you want an Asian film that's insanely overrated by a cluster of geeks, look for any of Takeshi Miike's films, especially the brainless Ichi The Killer. Â In all fairness, the entire Ichi The Killer shabang, manga, anime and live action, is all a bit pony. I never got the love for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted July 23, 2009 Paid Members Share Posted July 23, 2009 Agreed on Miike, he is generally overrated. Gozu was fucking hilarious though. I remember buying this as a result of someone reviewing it on here. Maybe I need to watch it again, but I didn't think much of it. Â Erm, yeah, that was probably me. Soz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Au Posted July 23, 2009 Paid Members Share Posted July 23, 2009 I absolutely loved Gozu. Randomly saw it in the cinema with no idea what it was about and it just blew me away. I'm not generally one for surrealism but Gozu makes very little sense and yet is completely brilliant for reasons that I can never really put my finger on. Â I'm with Seven on Old Boy as well. Another one I saw in the cinema without really know anything about it. It really is great though, even without the corridor scene. I'm not sure that, with a film like that, flaws really matter. It's so OTT in places you just accept it and carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam G Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) I wish the cinema's near me showed films like OldBoy. Which cinema was it? Â patdfb, where did you get "Ando" from? Edited July 23, 2009 by Adam Gard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted July 23, 2009 Paid Members Share Posted July 23, 2009 I absolutely loved Gozu. Randomly saw it in the cinema with no idea what it was about and it just blew me away. I'm not generally one for surrealism but Gozu makes very little sense and yet is completely brilliant for reasons that I can never really put my finger on. I'm with Seven on Old Boy as well. Another one I saw in the cinema without really know anything about it. It really is great though, even without the corridor scene. I'm not sure that, with a film like that, flaws really matter. It's so OTT in places you just accept it and carry on.  I saw at the cinema as well, it was part of a Tartan Asia Extreme season they were doing. I also saw Phone (quality if derivative) and A Tale Of Two Sisters (wonderful) in it.  I don't think I've ever heard a reaction from a cinema audience quite like the one I heard for the ending to Gozu. Nobody knew whether to be disgusted or laugh or what. It reminded me of a David Lynch film really, which is probably why I liked it so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) I just wished cinemas near me would show films like Rambo and Moon. Odeon are a fucking disgrace. Â EDIT: Sun, did you really enjoy Tale Of Two Sisters? I thought it was confused, pretentious wank. Having seen Ringu, the missus and I went on a rampage through similar Japanese horror. It went: Â Ringu - wow! Scary pale girl with black hair! Dark Water - amazing film, reminded me a bit of Ringu with the scary girl with black hair The Grudge - erm, another scary black haired girl, idea getting a bit boring now Tale Of Two Sisters - more scary little girls and this one makes as much sense as a Shymalan movie. Â I just felt the same trope was carted out in a whole run of Jap horror films that gradually diluted the formula. Edited July 23, 2009 by Loki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Astro Hollywood Posted July 23, 2009 Moderators Share Posted July 23, 2009 I just wished cinemas near me would show films like Rambo and Moon. Odeon are a fucking disgrace. EDIT: Sun, did you really enjoy Tale Of Two Sisters? I thought it was confused, pretentious wank. Having seen Ringu, the missus and I went on a rampage through similar Japanese horror. It went:  Ringu - wow! Scary pale girl with black hair! Dark Water - amazing film, reminded me a bit of Ringu with the scary girl with black hair The Grudge - erm, another scary black haired girl, idea getting a bit boring now Tale Of Two Sisters - more scary little girls and this one makes as much sense as a Shymalan movie.  I just felt the same trope was carted out in a whole run of Jap horror films that gradually diluted the formula.  I agree with this post very hard indeed. Tale of Two Sisters was the saturation point of J-Horror for me, dreadful movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted July 23, 2009 Paid Members Share Posted July 23, 2009 No, I loved A Tale Of Two Sisters and I didn't think it was confused at all. Â I think with most J-Horror and K-Horror films since Ring you have basically got similar themes going on - scary long-haired girl and so on, but I didn't think that was the crux of this film at all, and I didn't really find it that confusing either. I think I enjoyed it because it just had a consistently unsettling atmosphere throughout and didn't necessarily rely on several set piece scenes to keep it moving along. The dinner table scene was fantastic in particular though and I thought the ending tidied things up nicely. Â It's funny, despite the fact that most Korean and Japanese horror films (except maybe Infection) have used similar themes for over 15 years now, I don't seem to tire of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Astro Hollywood Posted July 23, 2009 Moderators Share Posted July 23, 2009 Despite my geek-cred, my knowledge of Japanese cinema is poor. Is there such a thing as a Japanese slasher, in the American sense, with a Freddy/Jason style antagonist hacking people up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patiirc Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 patdfb, where did you get "Ando" from? Â He looks like 'Ando' from Heroes, well at least i thought he did, fucking acts like him as in uber geek So i guess that makes him a 'Ando' lookalikey sisterfucker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted July 23, 2009 Paid Members Share Posted July 23, 2009 Despite my geek-cred, my knowledge of Japanese cinema is poor. Is there such a thing as a Japanese slasher, in the American sense, with a Freddy/Jason style antagonist hacking people up? Â Yeah, they're rare, aren't they? They just don't seem to be a part of the movie culture over there at all. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Evil Dead Trap, which isn't bad actually. Never seen the sequel though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Astro Hollywood Posted July 23, 2009 Moderators Share Posted July 23, 2009 Despite my geek-cred, my knowledge of Japanese cinema is poor. Is there such a thing as a Japanese slasher, in the American sense, with a Freddy/Jason style antagonist hacking people up? Â Yeah, they're rare, aren't they? They just don't seem to be a part of the movie culture over there at all. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Evil Dead Trap, which isn't bad actually. Never seen the sequel though. Â I might be exposing my cultural knowledge as shoddily racist, but it must be a cultural thing. Most Western slashers revolve around attractive college kids in some remote location fucking and smoking weed like it ain't no thang, whereas the likes of Battle Royale have these huge emotional moments around dying-breath confessions like "I...I have tiny crush on you..." *dies* Â Although most of their porn involves shitting into each other's mouths or cartoon baby foxes wanking their nippled tit-cocks, so it seems a bit strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted July 23, 2009 Paid Members Share Posted July 23, 2009 Despite my geek-cred, my knowledge of Japanese cinema is poor. Is there such a thing as a Japanese slasher, in the American sense, with a Freddy/Jason style antagonist hacking people up? Â Yeah, they're rare, aren't they? They just don't seem to be a part of the movie culture over there at all. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Evil Dead Trap, which isn't bad actually. Never seen the sequel though. Â I might be exposing my cultural knowledge as shoddily racist, but it must be a cultural thing. Most Western slashers revolve around attractive college kids in some remote location fucking and smoking weed like it ain't no thang, whereas the likes of Battle Royale have these huge emotional moments around dying-breath confessions like "I...I have tiny crush on you..." *dies* Â Although most of their porn involves shitting into each other's mouths or cartoon baby foxes wanking their nippled tit-cocks, so it seems a bit strange. Â I wish I still had the link but I read an article on Japanese/Korean horror that suggested the lack of slasher films over there is due to the lack of serial killers they have tended to have over there to influence their horror movies in that way. Not sure if that's true but I guess it's one rough theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Surf Digby Posted July 23, 2009 Paid Members Share Posted July 23, 2009 The Hostel - Part II Â After muchly enjoying the first one, this was disappointing to say the least. The whole movie screams straight-to-video sequel, with the exception that there's less gratuitous nudity in this one. It felt as though it was written by a team of people sat round a table going "How about this happens?" "Yeah, and maybe it'll turn out that it's this instead" "What about if we change this for this so we can add some of this?" Â In the first one, the art show was an old abandoned ramshackle factory. Now it's wired for visuals, with uniformed staff operating automatic doors and shit. Fuck continuity when it comes to finding an easy solution to a scene. Secret rooms in the back of wardrobes with trophied heads? Fuck off. Â Yeah, generally crap. Wish I'd stopped after the first one. How did the girl at the beginning not notice someone in the kitchen chainsawing her boyfriend's head off? I doubt the staircase was that soundproof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Seven Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Hostel is a very bad film indeed. Hostel II is grounds for euthanasia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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