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On 9/15/2024 at 9:38 AM, davertfnewman said:

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Frank Miller in his prime gave us The Dark Knight Returns, Batman: Year One, Sin City, some of the best of Daredevil, 300, but approaching old age went into anti-Islamic, libertarian, abusive territory which he calls a "dark time"... which doesn't seem to have entirely ended or been bounced back from.

He pretty much peaked with Dark Knight Returns. The sequels and other stuff afterwards just got worse and worse. 

Alan Moore is similar. He's written some fantastic comics, and I don't just mean Watchmen, From Hell, V For Vendetta etc. Some of his Swamp Thing and Captain Britain books were good. He's the one that established Earth 616 as the mainline univ erse. 

Lost Girls and some of his later LXG stuff veers into somewhat problematic territory, though, and he's notoriously precious about any of his properties being adapted to film and TV. 

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Never read lost girls and am not particularly interested in doing so, but he's got a lot of great work under his belt so I think you're selling him a bit short. That has reminded me that I always meant to finish Promethea; I enjoyed the first couple books of that. Grant Morrison is maybe the most consistent of that group of big names for me. Neither of them is a wrong un or a prick though from what I know so not appropriate for this thread.

Speaking of comics though.. as mentioned recently in another thread I am really bummed out that Transmetropolitan is ruined for me now due to Warren Ellis's misdeeds as I really loved it. So he's my submission for this thread. Hit and miss with his other work, but that series was just masterful. A great story, really well observed and the world felt so real. Incredibly prescient and still relevant, like the best sci fi should be.

Just thinking about it now would have, in the past, been a trigger to start a re-read. I'm sure I will revisit it at some point, but right now I just don't think I'll enjoy it so kinda want to leave the memories alone.

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