no user name Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 I think I've worded my original post a bit wrong. I meant I've heard he's not the best wrestler or the best talker. I don't really know much about him. That was why I didn't know why he was being pushed so hard Quote
no user name Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 1 minute ago, d-d-d-dAz said: Tell that to the fella that brought up 'in ring skill' in the first place. See my last post mate Quote
Snitsky's back acne Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 Just now, no user name said: Well it's largely subjective. There are many things that make a match great Indeed. It's why when people say, for instance, 'Hulk Hogan was not a good worker'. Are you kidding? He could have crowds cheering just by lifting a finger. He could sell and his stuff looked good. Do you mean he didn't do flips? If that's the criteria then, yes, he was terrible. Quote
d-d-d-dAz Posted April 6, 2024 Author Posted April 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, no user name said: I think I've worded my original post a bit wrong. I meant I've heard he's not the best wrestler or the best talker. I don't really know much about him. That was why I didn't know why he was being pushed so hard I did it for @The Gaffer Quote
no user name Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 5 minutes ago, Snitsky's back acne said: Indeed. It's why when people say, for instance, 'Hulk Hogan was not a good worker'. Are you kidding? He could have crowds cheering just by lifting a finger. He could sell and his stuff looked good. Do you mean he didn't do flips? If that's the criteria then, yes, he was terrible. To be fair I may have thought that before. I'd still rather see omega v osprey but I understand what he did well more than before Quote
Snitsky's back acne Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 4 minutes ago, no user name said: To be fair I may have thought that before. I'd still rather see omega v osprey but I understand what he did well more than before As you say, it's personal preference/subjective. All anyone is saying when they go 'He can't work' is really 'I don't like watching them/I have a set idea of what being able to 'work' is'. - which is fine, obviously, but isn't necessarily true. Quote
wordsfromlee Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 22 minutes ago, no user name said: I think I've worded my original post a bit wrong. I meant I've heard he's not the best wrestler or the best talker. I don't really know much about him. That was why I didn't know why he was being pushed so hard He's getting pushed so hard because he's the best at what he does. You may not be into what he does, and thats fine. You may enjoy "workrate" matches more, but theres a lot more to wrestling than that. It's OK not not enjoy something, but to not understand why millions of others do is absurd. Quote
Matthew Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 32 minutes ago, no user name said: I think I've worded my original post a bit wrong. I meant I've heard he's not the best wrestler or the best talker. I don't really know much about him. That was why I didn't know why he was being pushed so hard If you’ve got a spare hour and half, and want to know why, it’s worth digging out the Roman biography that was released a week ago. It tells his story well, both personally and professionally, and you can see how he’s gotten as far as he has. Quote
no user name Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 4 minutes ago, wordsfromlee said: He's getting pushed so hard because he's the best at what he does. You may not be into what he does, and thats fine. You may enjoy "workrate" matches more, but theres a lot more to wrestling than that. It's OK not not enjoy something, but to not understand why millions of others do is absurd. Did you read the post mate? I said these were things that I had heard not that they were necessarily true. I didn't say anything about not liking his style. It was a question. I said in a different post that wrestling was largely subjective. Quote
wordsfromlee Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, no user name said: Did you read the post mate? I said these were things that I had heard not that they were necessarily true. I didn't say anything about not liking his style. It was a question. I said in a different post that wrestling was largely subjective. I think you need to re-read your own post mate. 1 hour ago, no user name said: I got to ask. What is the big deal with roman reigns. I struggle to really see it. I mean he's not the best wrestler. He's not the best talker. What is so good about him? Or is it just that he's marketable? Quote
no user name Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Snitsky's back acne said: As you say, it's personal preference/subjective. All anyone is saying when they go 'He can't work' is really 'I don't like watching them/I have a set idea of what being able to 'work' is'. - which is fine, obviously, but isn't necessarily true. Yeah I agree. It's like the hogan v rock match. It's not a technical masterpiece at all but its still a great match. Edited April 6, 2024 by no user name Quote
no user name Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 (edited) 4 minutes ago, wordsfromlee said: I think you need to re-read your own post mate. I corrected it in a later post though where I said that I had heard these things and that they werent necearily what I thought. I haven't seen many of his matches Edited April 6, 2024 by no user name Quote
wordsfromlee Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, no user name said: I corrected it in a later post though where I said that I had heard these things and that they werent necearily what I thought I haven't seen many of his matches OK, well if you're heard he's not the best wrestler and you've heard he's not the best talker then go on youtube or the network and watch some of his stuff for yourself and make your own mind up. Quote
d-d-d-dAz Posted April 6, 2024 Author Posted April 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, no user name said: I corrected it in a later post though where I said that I had heard these things and that they werent necearily what I thought I haven't seen many of his matches I reckon not seeing it is probably why you've struggled to see it, then. On a wider point, trying to attach objective criteria to what 'good' is in wrestling is nuts. It's just a stupid bit of theatre that occasionally makes you feel something and often doesn't, and what that is mostly unique to the individual - and when enough individuals agree on something being good, that thing is over and we can all have a lovely time. You can tell me all day why Mark Henry isn't any good, but I'm still going to smile, leave and watch the salmon jacket promo on YouTube. Quote
Paid Members gmoney Posted April 6, 2024 Paid Members Posted April 6, 2024 This conversation takes the biscuit. Quote
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