Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted October 17, 2022 Author Paid Members Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) Fucking double post. Rogan’s fault. Edited October 17, 2022 by wandshogun09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted October 17, 2022 Author Paid Members Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Egg Shen said: Rogan's over here performing at the o2 on Saturday ain't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted October 19, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) any midweek predictions? My opinion's may change once ive seen Embedded/Weigh-In's etc. but right now im feeling these: I'll take Charles over Makhachev. Initially I thought Makhachev but i've counted out Olives so much that i've decided not to do it again. It's also with the thinking that Makhachev is going to be in extreme danger even if he gets this fight to the ground. I can quite easily seeing Charles snatch a neck. It won't go the distance. Oliveira Sub. Brady over Muhammad unless Belal is able to completely nullify Brady into a dull stalemate type fight. Brady's a solid grappler though so I don't see that happening. Brady Decision O'Malley over Yan. Yep. I think most people just saw this as a Yan blowout when it was announced but I'm quite fancying O'Malley. I could see Yan almost taking this lightly and find himself fighting an elusive O'Malley who picks shot from the outside and racks up points, could see the fight ending with Yan frustrated. Crowd might not get what they want. O'Malley Decision Sterling/Dillashaw. This is the one i'm finding hardest to have an opinion on. I can see one scenario where Dillashaw dances around, gets in and out and win's a decision. I hope that doesn't happen and Sterling gets it done so i'm picking him. Dillashaw shouldn't be fighting for the belt, he's heeling it up and I want him to lose. There's always the question of what Dillshaw has left, he does look in ridiculous shape. Sterling (hopefully by) TKO/Sub  Edited October 19, 2022 by Egg Shen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 I'm hoping with every fibre of my being that Oliveira gets the job done. The sheer arrogance coming from the Dagestani muppet crew is astounding. Khabib was never this bad when he was an actual fighter, but now he's a coach he's talking all this shit? Nah, fuck him and his crew of nuggets. I fully expect O'Malley to be doing quite well in the fight before rolling his ankle as usual. The guys a decent fighter, but his legs are made of glass. I don't particularly like Yan, but I see him winning this. I also want Sterling to win. Via DQ. Just to see the MMA "community" lose their collective shit again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted October 19, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted October 19, 2022 i might be forgetting but does Yan have a decent kicking game? I'd thought about the leg situation but wasn't thinking Yan's game would play into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted October 19, 2022 Author Paid Members Share Posted October 19, 2022 Given Faber’s a hobbit and O’Malley’s a lanky streak of piss, this should land around the thigh region of Suga… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted October 19, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted October 19, 2022 that Faber/Yan fight was a mugging, the UFC sacrificed a legend that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted October 19, 2022 Author Paid Members Share Posted October 19, 2022 Faber walloping Ricky Simon in seconds caused that. Made everyone think old Bum Chin had another run in him. Yan messed him up. As for predictions… I’m going with Oliveira in the main. He definitely has more ways to win. A knockout is probably the easier route if Makhachev stands more, and I think he might actually try and stand more out of respect for Oliveira’s BJJ threat. At some point though it’s gonna hit the ground and that’s where this one really gets interesting. They’re both so good in different ways down there it could be a really fascinating battle to watch. It’s mad that nobody is even really talking about what a great fight it is now. It’s all hyperbole and bluster from both sets of fans, who have convinced themselves the other guy has no chance. It’s proper Sherdog shite where there’s no room for an actual reasonable discussion. It’s all ‘my favourite smashes your favourite’ and acting like the other guy is shit. But yeah, I see Oliveira just being a bit too dangerous and well rounded. There’s no ‘safe zone’ for Makhachev. I could see a scenario where he stays out of danger and takes a decision but I think it’s more likely Charles catches him somewhere along the line, either on the feet or in a sub. It’s the old Werdum vs Cain comparison again in a way, where I just think Oliveira will be the first opponent Islam’s faced who not only won’t fear the takedown, he’ll welcome it because he’s so comfortable and confident off his back. A lot of Makhachev’s success is based around making opponents hesitant just because of the threat of his takedowns and the consequences that follow. Oliveira will see Makhachev’s takedowns as an opportunity, not so much a threat, so it’s gonna be interesting. Great fight. Style-wise I genuinely think they’re both the trickiest test for each other. I think Aljo probably wins on points. Maybe close but I don’t know. I’m not sure about TJ anymore. Maybe I’ve got it completely wrong and he’s got more left in the tank than I think but I just get the feeling he’s not quite the same as he was pre-USADA suspension. Maybe not even so much to do with PEDs either, I think that time away might’ve just been the window closing on his prime years as a fighter. Still massively skilled, obviously. And however you scored the Sandhagen fight last year, even if you had him losing, the fact TJ was able to come back and go 5 rounds in a mega competitive hard fought battle with someone younger and more active like Sandhagen says a lot about just how good he is. He still probably beats the majority of the current 135 division, and that’s high level. But does he still have enough to beat the very top of the division? And Aljo is top of the mountain. It’s a tricky one for me and based on gut feelings more than anything but I think this is gonna be a timing thing. Purely skills-wise, both at their best I think they’re just about neck and neck. But I think Aljo’s just coming into his prime and TJ’s just passed his. He’s lost a big chunk of cage time over the last few years and had a knee injury on top of that. I see Sterling just being sharper and taking a competitive but fairly clear decision. I’m sticking with Yan by stoppage over O’Malley. I get picking Suga though. He’s bigger, longer, hits hard and Yan has shown a tendency to coast at times, early and late in fights, and that could cost him here. But I think the big difference here could be that it’s a 3 rounder. I’ve seen a lot of people bring up Yan giving rounds away in both Sterling fights and early in the Sandhagen fight as well. But a) they were both more skilled than O’Malley and b) Yan might’ve been trying to conserve energy knowing those fights could go 5. In a 3 rounder, that’s gone. We haven’t seen Yan in a 3 round fight since that Faber mauling in 2019. So basing everything off his tactics in 5 rounders might be misleading. On top of that, O’Malley hasn’t looked good at all when he’s stepped up a level with the likes of Chito and Munhoz. Got crushed by Chito and looked crap against a tough but battleworn Munhoz before the eye poke. He’s got Diaz-like shockingly bad defence against leg kicks, had no answers and didn’t really offer anything back. If not for the eye poke, I really think he might’ve lost that one. I’m just not convinced by him against high level opposition. And Yan is better than anyone O’Malley’s ever been in with. Even Chito wasn’t on the kind of form back then that he is now. All the highlight reel stuff from O’Malley hasn’t really aged well either. Everyone jizzes over the Wineland KO, and it was a peach of a punch, but Wineland was on his last legs and has since retired. That Kris Moutinho beatdown didn’t tell us much either and Moutinho got beat even quicker but 40-odd year old Guido Cannetti after and then got released. Raulian Paiva is probably O’Malley’s best win. Decent at best. O’Malley has a semi-alright puncher’s chance, in my opinion, but Yan should win. And probably inside the distance, I reckon. Dariush vs Gamrot and Belal vs Brady are pretty much dead on 50/50 fights for me. I just really hope Fiorot batters Chookagian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members WeeAl Posted October 19, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted October 19, 2022 I'm picking Oliveira. I just think he has more ways to win. He'll be fairly comfortable wherever the fight takes place, yet Islam, you would think anyway, may have a slight air of trepidation about the takedown. "How much do I really want to be in a clinch or in this man's guard?" Has to be a thought surely. I'm not confident about the pick though. Two men that are damn well matched. I'm a bit more confident that five rounds won't be needed. It's Sterling for me. The 'what have you done for me lately' defence is coming into play here. TJ's best accomplishments aren't recent enough for me to come up with a good reason to explain a TJ win. As Wand said, this one is not necessarily a skills debate, as much as it is one about who is at their best. Yan all day, every day for me. If I was O'Malley's Grandmother, I couldn't even come up with a way that he wins this fight. If he's good enough to beat Petr Yan here, then Sean O'Malley is miles, miles better, than anything he's shown us so far. And to be honest, I just don't think he has it in him. This is a step up that he hasn't earned. This is the same guy that was on his way to losing without looking good against Pedro Munhoz, looked shite against Chito. I don't even think Yan has to be at his best to win this. Until he shows me different, I'm going to continue to think O'Malley is all show - no go. Dariush Vs Gamrot could be much like the bantamweight title fight. Dariush was probably riding the remainder of his prime coming into his last fight. The leg injury could tell a tale here if it's slowed Dariush down any, then Gamrot may be able to take advantage. A very close decision here, where I'm picking Gamrot to win. I'm sure he'll have to weather a rough patch though where Dariush will sting and hurt him at some point, as he's well bloody likely to do. Belal to grind out another close decision against Brady as well. Very evenly matched, fighting at the right time. Hard to call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted October 19, 2022 Author Paid Members Share Posted October 19, 2022 Obviously the main card is where it’s at but the prelims for this are gonna be available free on YouTube apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted October 20, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted October 20, 2022 Oliveira for me too. Whilst Makhachev is cut from similar cloth to Nurmagomedov, I don't get the impression he's quite at the same level - there was something about Nurmagomedov's wrestling and ground-and-pound that was a lot more suffocating and aggressive, that made him a lot more dangerous to ground submission specialists; I would've liked for Oliveira to face him, to see if he was good enough to really test him. With Makhachev, however, it's difficult to tell if he can neutralise the ground threat. I wouldn't completely bet against him, but I'm leaning towards Olives for this one. Sterling, for sure. Even if I didn't think he'd win, I'd still pick him to, because I'm not backing Dirty Dilly. But I think Sterling's rematch with Yan is what's convinced me. When you compare it with his first match with Yan, where he was fairly comprehensively outclassed, the difference is stark. He's demonstrated quite clearly that it would be foolish to think that everything he's shown so far is everything he's got. Conversely, it seems like Dillashaw, even with his post-EPO win over Sandhagen (who is good, but I wouldn't pick to beat Sterling in a rematch), is pretty much in the twilight of his career. I'm hoping Sterling sticks to the script and gets him out of there. I wouldn't care to pick between Dariush and Gamrot. Instead, I'm asking the question: why the fuck hasn't Dariush had a title shot yet? On a fucking card where Drug-Cheat Dillashaw gets a shot off the back of a split-decision, his first match back from suspension, and having lost the previous match to that, why hasn't Dariush been seen to have earned a title bout, and instead potentially gets fed to a dangerous up-and-comer? O'Malley is a complete nob-end, and I dislike him. But as a fighter, when he's on form, his style is a joy to behold. I still think of him as the Thomas Hearns of MMA - only style-wise, though, not level. I don't think he's good enough to beat Yan, who has an extra nasty streak to carry him through if he needs to.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted October 20, 2022 Author Paid Members Share Posted October 20, 2022 Good tip. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriend Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Carbomb said: Dirty Dilly. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted October 20, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted October 20, 2022 🥜  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted October 20, 2022 Author Paid Members Share Posted October 20, 2022 Awful trash talk on both sides of that one from bits I’ve seen. But we’re nearly there now… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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