Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted August 13, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted August 13, 2014 Jason Albert in that suit he wears looks like a Ninja Turtle when they'd go to the cinema and didn't want anyone to recognize them. His body seems to be made up of 80% head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Someone rates Tensai higher than Gallows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimo the great Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I don't rate Tensai anything, i don't watch WWE. Â If we're talking Giant Bernard of New Japan vs Doc Gallows of New Japan it's not even a debate. He's on another planet from Gallows. Â Ask anyone who's watched both in New Japan which one they'd pick and i'd guarantee you 99% of them would pick Bernard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cum Doctor Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I don't think there's that much of a difference between Gallows and Bernard as far as what I've seen from them in NJPW. I've seen Bernard in more cracking tag matches though. In singles stuff, I don't see much between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingofSports Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Not a fan of Gallows or guys of that size in general, particularly when the torso happens to be attached to a pair of pipe cleaner legs. That said, I haven't seen enough of his New Japan matches to critique one way or the other...but I can imagine. Just had a look through my own match ratings to see how Bernard fared during his time in NJPW. Based on the matches I have of his (11 singles & 23 tag) between 2006 & 2012, the singles matches averaged out at 'solid' & the tags 'above average to good', including 4 or 5 'very good'. Clearly that's subjective and a sample only, but fairly representaive I guess. Boring stat done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted August 14, 2014 Moderators Share Posted August 14, 2014 Guys that size in general? Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingofSports Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Guys that size in general? Why not? They seldom bring anything to the table that I want to see or haven't already seen a billion times before. In Archer & Davey Boy Jr., New Japan already have two 6½ footers, both of whom have adapted well, over time, but for me that's enough 'big men' for; the size of the NJ roster, the type of opponent they have to face & the matches most puro fans would want to watch. If New Japan want to turn their product into a WWE-type freakshow of height & muscle, good luck to them, but I imagine it's more a case of bringing in a few gaijin to pad out the aforementioned roster & possibly appeal to a broader audience with their ippvs, though I can't see too many fans stumping up their hard-earned to watch Gallows & Lance Hoyt. Excluding the obvious (basketball, high jump..), how many world class sportsmen do you see standing 6ft 7+?... Lionel Messi & Neymar Jr. or Peter Crouch & Nicola Zigic? At the opposite end of the scale, I struggle to see how Yohei Komatsu or Hiromu Takahashi are going to make any sort of mark in New Japan either. It's hardly been a production line of greatness over recent years - Okada & that's about it. Most of the rest are 10-20 year veterans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimo the great Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Okada  Originally from Ultimo Dragon's Toryumon Gym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted August 18, 2014 Moderators Share Posted August 18, 2014  Guys that size in general? Why not? They seldom bring anything to the table that I want to see or haven't already seen a billion times before. In Archer & Davey Boy Jr., New Japan already have two 6½ footers, both of whom have adapted well, over time, but for me that's enough 'big men' for; the size of the NJ roster, the type of opponent they have to face & the matches most puro fans would want to watch. If New Japan want to turn their product into a WWE-type freakshow of height & muscle, good luck to them, but I imagine it's more a case of bringing in a few gaijin to pad out the aforementioned roster & possibly appeal to a broader audience with their ippvs, though I can't see too many fans stumping up their hard-earned to watch Gallows & Lance Hoyt. Excluding the obvious (basketball, high jump..), how many world class sportsmen do you see standing 6ft 7+?... Lionel Messi & Neymar Jr. or Peter Crouch & Nicola Zigic? At the opposite end of the scale, I struggle to see how Yohei Komatsu or Hiromu Takahashi are going to make any sort of mark in New Japan either. It's hardly been a production line of greatness over recent years - Okada & that's about it. Most of the rest are 10-20 year veterans.   Rugby players, Boxers, Mixed Martial Artists, NFL Offensive Linemen. You know, ones from actual physical sports. Size has nothing to do with quality of work. In fact, I love watching a big bomb thrower more than anything. They're the most believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshC Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I really like Lance Archer. Not sure exactly why. But yeah, if everyone on the shows was a flippy floppy type, then none of the flips would get over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamp Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Each to their own but I tend to think that wrestling is at its best when it's a variety show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted August 18, 2014 Moderators Share Posted August 18, 2014 I concur. Wrestling should be the circus, everything should be different. Bit of something for everyone. No uniformity in size or working style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgi86 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 So, Bullet Club introduced yet another new member today. I present to you "The Cleaner": Â http://i.imgur.com/9u55yKM.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted November 8, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted November 8, 2014 Beard, leather jacket and sunglasses. He knows how to get over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingofSports Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Just referencing back a few posts. I was aware of Okada's origins, but he's clearly been a New Japan project since '09 & anyway the point was, that there is a lack of up & coming NJ talent. Never suggested that there shouldn't be a variety of styles/sizes + I'm no fan of flippy-floppy, nor did I reference anyone of that style. The majority of NJ guys I like, can adapt to different styles...just don't want the roster to get top-heavy with big guys or excessive numbers of gaijin. That said, Bullet Club's obviously working & Omega's potentially a useful addition. His selling can be OTT, but he's had some very decent matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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