RancidPunx Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Just somewhat curious , has anybody ever undergone CBT ?I just read mike skinner aka the streets book and he raves about how it helped him.I am on a phone otherwise I would post some links about what it is exactly, but skinner describes it as talking to someone similar to a shrink who helps you practically overcome what is troubling you.Sounds like what I need to be honest, but that's a whole different thread.Any thoughts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endorphin Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I had it once on the NHS, trying to cure my chronic demotivation. It was not how I expected and not helpful in the slightest - the guy basically told me stuff I could have found on any website, gave me lists of various ideas and concepts that again I knew already. I had hoped for more personalized advice and help. Might have been the case of a bad practitioner.Traditional counseling was much more effective for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted May 20, 2013 Moderators Share Posted May 20, 2013 I think there has been a bunch of chat about it in the Depression Discussion thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Mike Castle Posted May 21, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted May 21, 2013 I had it about two years ago as my depression started to get really bad when I was being booted out of where I lived, due to the landlord having the house repossessed thanks to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polish Dad Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Been through three courses of it. It's been incredibly helpful in allowing me to do all the things I want to do without constantly undermining myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_kahoona Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I work for a health insurance company and the amount of CBT claims coming in has grown, alot. Â considering that going private costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members DEF Posted May 13, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted May 13, 2015 It's taken me a long time to write this but I believe I have OCD. For the past 5 years or so I have been performing various compulsions and ruminating for probably longer. Its got to the point where I'm stressed most of the time and bloody miserable the rest. There's plenty of issues but the main compulsion is hand washing and its really taking over my life. I don't have any issue with contamination towards myself but in the distribution of germs/dirt from myself to other people. If I go to the toilet I'm looking at at least half an hour of washing my hands. Up until not long ago it was probably more like an hour. Years ago I went on a training course for food hygiene with work and they stressed that all soap should off your hands to be clean. It was like my mind broke. Â So as I said I've succesfully reduced the length by sticking to NHS Guidlines on hand washing. Â 1. Wet hands. 2. Lather with soap 3. Wash for 30 seconds 4. Rinse thoroughly. Â Well sort of. Convincing myself that doing it once is effective is where the kicker comes in. Usually I complete the process twice. Sometimes three times. But the main source of contention is step 4. Rinse thoroughly. Because I'm under the impression that that means make sure there is no soap left. One cycle realistically takes 15-20 minutes. Its insanely frustrating, painful and has made me a right freak. I also compulsively clean and various other smaller things but they haven't developed into a nightmare that controls what I do and how I feel. Â Please any suggestions would be appreciated. I've read up on OCD at length but not been diagnosed. I'm not sure I'm ready for that. But this can't go on it's hurting me a lot and effecting work/family as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Maverick Posted May 13, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted May 13, 2015 It's helped me massively and my quality of life and self confidence has greatly improved from when I first started it. Seemingly it's not for everybody but if you go in with an open mind it could really help you. A good rapport with the practitioner would be helpful also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Tommy! Posted May 13, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted May 13, 2015 DEF, is there somewhere near you you can refer yourself to for some guidance? Be it NHS or a help group or charity? Â I'm not had trouble with OCD but CBT is about the only thing that's helped me feel right, or when I don't be able to help myself with it and accept it. Â The only advise I can give I guess it to try and rationalise what you are doing. Â Even if it takes you 20 minutes to wash you hands if you are spending that 20 minutes reaffirming to yourself the soap doesn't matter and why it doesn't it could help chip it away, then its 18 minutes, then 15, then 10. Â Might be bollocks and no help, but its all I've got to offer and just incase it can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Teedy Kay Posted May 13, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted May 13, 2015 Is it the same as NLP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Didn't have it for OCD but it was/is the best thing I've done regarding depression. It's learning a new skill, or even remembering a skill you've forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members DEF Posted May 13, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted May 13, 2015 DEF, is there somewhere near you you can refer yourself to for some guidance? Be it NHS or a help group or charity? I'm not had trouble with OCD but CBT is about the only thing that's helped me feel right, or when I don't be able to help myself with it and accept it. The only advise I can give I guess it to try and rationalise what you are doing. Even if it takes you 20 minutes to wash you hands if you are spending that 20 minutes reaffirming to yourself the soap doesn't matter and why it doesn't it could help chip it away, then its 18 minutes, then 15, then 10. Might be bollocks and no help, but its all I've got to offer and just incase it can help. I know I should get support from professionals and diagnosis from a GP but I'm just not sure I want to/ comfortable to. I know that's crazy but I have never been particularly open with that sort of thing. Â I have a couple of phone help lines but whenever I've called they have been unavailable. Â I read that often people with a OCD wait decades before seeking help. I have started to acknowledge and try to deal with it but it's slow. I didn't even realise it was likely OCD until about 6 months ago. My general knowledge of OCD was so poor that until I really researched it that I thought I was just losing my mind/actually trying to make things better by indulging compulsions. Which is how they start. Â The thing is I react well to instructions. Like the NHS guidelines to hand washing have helped. Just not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I know it's a well worn expression, but the fact that you've acknowledged it and made a few tentative steps, they are the most important steps. Good luck to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members DEF Posted May 13, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted May 13, 2015 I know it's a well worn expression, but the fact that you've acknowledged it and made a few tentative steps, they are the most important steps. Good luck to you. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladiesman345 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I completely fucked up a relationship with a friend of mine a few months ago due to getting inside my own head, overthinking, and generally just having no self- esteem whatsoever. I was recommended a website called MoodGym by my GP, which is an online CBT program which goes through all the core mental traits that mess people up with depression. It's actually helped me a lot. Some of it is so obvious that I want to kick myself for not doing it earlier, like recognising the trait of "mind reading". If I'd done this earlier I wouldn't have lost a good friend.  Here's the link  https://moodgym.anu.edu.au/welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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