Vamp Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 So by National Pro Wrestling Day, they actually mean Marginal Indies Hoping To Flog A Couple Of DVDs Day. Â That's what pro-wrestling in the U.S. is in 2013. Â I think he meant they could have whacked in a few legends/has beens rather than just a card full of indy guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted February 3, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted February 3, 2013 It's one of the reasons I've been tempted to try CHIKARA - they brought in X-Pac, Aldo Montoya and Tatanka as "Team WWF", and The Barbarian, The Warlord and Meng as "The Faces of Pain" for their King Of Trios in 2012, which went over huge with the crowd, apparently (I've downloaded it but not watched it yet). And in 2008, "Team WWF" was Ax, Smash and One-Man Gang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dart Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 So by National Pro Wrestling Day, they actually mean Marginal Indies Hoping To Flog A Couple Of DVDs Day. Â That's what pro-wrestling in the U.S. is in 2013. Â I think he meant they could have whacked in a few legends/has beens rather than just a card full of indy guys. Â How do you expect them to pay for all these legends? They're probably relying on the IPPV sales to pay for the nobodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted February 3, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted February 3, 2013 So by National Pro Wrestling Day, they actually mean Marginal Indies Hoping To Flog A Couple Of DVDs Day. Â That's what pro-wrestling in the U.S. is in 2013. Â I think he meant they could have whacked in a few legends/has beens rather than just a card full of indy guys. Â How do you expect them to pay for all these legends? They're probably relying on the IPPV sales to pay for the nobodies. Â Depends on how many you booked. And ultimately, it's about speculating to accumulate anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_dust Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 So by National Pro Wrestling Day, they actually mean Marginal Indies Hoping To Flog A Couple Of DVDs Day. Â That's what pro-wrestling in the U.S. is in 2013. Â I think he meant they could have whacked in a few legends/has beens rather than just a card full of indy guys. Â How do you expect them to pay for all these legends? They're probably relying on the IPPV sales to pay for the nobodies. Â Depends on how many you booked. And ultimately, it's about speculating to accumulate anyway. Â Yet when someone over here relies on sales they don't have yet to pay the talent on their card the whole forum goes into mass panic. They did it the right way really. So they didn't get as many buys as if they had John Morrison on the card but from what I can tell the buys covered the costs, and the event was run by SMV so they'll probably make back more in DVD sales for the featured promotions than they lost and nobody refused to work because Rodd..... erm SMV fucked up and couldn't pay them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Snake Plissken Posted February 4, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted February 4, 2013 Seems there's been some drama over National Wrestlign day according to Bob Magee of Pro Wrestling: Between The Sheets  > Well, since last week's show commenting on the CHIKARA Pro Wrestling promoted National Pro Wrestling Day doubleheader, I've: 1) Had a former employee of both promotions send me nasty e-mails claiming I was somehow picking on CHIKARA (despite the fact that 90% of the column plugged the shows), by pointing out correctly that they were excluding CZW, the longest running independent in the Philadelphia area  2) Reported that the National Pro Wrestling Day event moved with 48 hours to go...turns out there were issues with the Derby Ink Gardens having a "major issue with the fire sprinkler system". Since those involved with the show didn't trust that the necessary work that needed to be done would be done by showtime, they understandably chose to move the National Pro Wrestling Day shows to the Northeast National Guard Armory.  3) Seen a blow-up between CZW and Pancoast Productions (the folks behind HybridTV) that worked with CZW for several years, causing the cancellation of their "Ultraviolent Underground" iPPV only event (which would have competed with the National Pro Wrestling Day doubleheader)  4) After all sorts of inter-promotional drama, including fears that CZW workers would somehow cause a scene on Saturday...a CZW match (with three workers that were available on extremely short notice) was included in the National Pro Wrestling Day doubleheader.  Then, at the end of Satirday's day long National Pro Wrestling doubleheader, former ECW Arena manager Roger Artigiani was introduced. Roger was the source I cited last week regarding the Derby Ink Garden building issues, and the person who got a location for the doubleheader practically at the last minute.  At the end of the evening show, Artigiani came to the ring. He congratulated 2 Cold Scorpio for winning the CHIKARA Rey de Voladores tournament. First, he said that 2 Cold Scorpio was being named to the Hardcore Hall of Fame...and that the banner for him in the Hardcore Hall of Fame will be hung...when "the World's Most Famous Bingo Hall re-opens".  As has been reported on more than one multiple website, there have been legal moves to evict current leaseholder Joanna Pang. The community had objected vehemently to her plans to change the ECW Arena to a concert hall (much as they did when XPW took over the Arena years ago, and attempted to do the same thing, as well as store merchandise in the building for its adult film company). Nonetheless, the Arena had been gutted by Pang, down to the bare walls, with gas, water and electric service cut off before these plans were stopped.  Artigiant's plans are to remodel the ECW Arena and open towards the end of this year.  With any luck, the next one of these National Pro Wrestling Day events will be back at Swanson and Ritner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted February 4, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted February 4, 2013 Yet when someone over here relies on sales they don't have yet to pay the talent on their card the whole forum goes into mass panic. They did it the right way really. So they didn't get as many buys as if they had John Morrison on the card but from what I can tell the buys covered the costs, and the event was run by SMV so they'll probably make back more in DVD sales for the featured promotions than they lost and nobody refused to work because Rodd..... erm SMV fucked up and couldn't pay them. Â That's not what I said. There's a world of difference between paying people to appear on your shows and relying on the gate to pay them. Dart asked how they expected these guys to pay the legends they should've booked, and I said that it depended on how many legends they booked, meaning that it's something they should've budgeted for, because ultimately these guys would draw more money for them in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_dust Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Sorry I read it wrong then. I took the "speculate to accumulate" line to mean assume legends would draw more money and book them without having it in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted February 4, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted February 4, 2013 Actually, that seems to be my fault. Sorry, should've been clearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy180 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Forgive me if I am missing the point of NPWD. But My understanding was that it was to showcase indy companies that people may have not heard of or seen before. Â So if these companies then used "legends" instead of their regular guys, people would have expected them to be used by these companies all the time. And then when they didn't see these "legends" on the shows regularly they will stop watching them. And so the whole day was a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted February 6, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted February 6, 2013 Forgive me if I am missing the point of NPWD. But My understanding was that it was to showcase indy companies that people may have not heard of or seen before. So if these companies then used "legends" instead of their regular guys, people would have expected them to be used by these companies all the time. And then when they didn't see these "legends" on the shows regularly they will stop watching them. And so the whole day was a waste of time.  If that was the point of the event, they shouldn't have named it "National Pro Wrestling Day" - it's too umbrella a name.  Also, nobody said anything about legends (why in quotes?) being used instead of indie guys - the suggestion was that the promoters should've booked a few legends, maybe two or three, to draw wider interest than just the tiny group of hardcores that always come to this sort of event anyway, and so the indie guys would have more exposure due to being given a chance to showcase their skills in front of more of an audience than they would have got without bigger names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanz25 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Anyone get the feeling this might turn into a major angle. Have worked and spoked with Hyde a number of times and doesnt seem like the type of guy to want to gatecrash things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted February 6, 2013 Moderators Share Posted February 6, 2013 Major angle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamp Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Expect a comment about it on RAW on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted February 6, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted February 6, 2013 The lights go out and instead of the Shield, we see DJ Hype, Danny Havoc and Mr. Tofiga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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