The Cum Doctor Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 True, but I wasn't making any comment on the actual shows - even before the last event, the 1PW brand still had enough pull with its hardcore fanbase that they could've run a hall show, rather than a big one that they just did, and probably got a turnout most BritWres promotions would be happy to have, and which shitarse promotions would chew their arms off for. Â Didn't Liverpool for A New Divide have a pretty similar draw? 1PW numbers haven't been great for a good long while. Â Also, they just cancelled a show because pre-sales were shite. They had a show which apparently had 80 people the night before their big one. Not seeing anything about the turnout for the February show. Â I guess the point is though, that there is no reason to think that the 1PW name has any value anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Astro Hollywood Posted June 14, 2011 Moderators Share Posted June 14, 2011 I don't know if MVK Val Kaibious is being ironic, but the pictures on his Facebook page are incredible. Â Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted June 14, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted June 14, 2011 True, but I wasn't making any comment on the actual shows - even before the last event, the 1PW brand still had enough pull with its hardcore fanbase that they could've run a hall show, rather than a big one that they just did, and probably got a turnout most BritWres promotions would be happy to have, and which shitarse promotions would chew their arms off for. Â Didn't Liverpool for A New Divide have a pretty similar draw? 1PW numbers haven't been great for a good long while. Â Also, they just cancelled a show because pre-sales were shite. They had a show which apparently had 80 people the night before their big one. Not seeing anything about the turnout for the February show. Â I guess the point is though, that there is no reason to think that the 1PW name has any value anymore. Â 80 people in a small hall is alright for UK promotion. Takes it out of shitarse territory at least. Â Don't misunderstand me: I'm not saying 1PW has loads of name value, I'm saying it has just a smidgin left that endures and, however inexplicable, keeps drawing an extremely loyal core of spackers, which is more than a number of even the best-run promotions in the UK can say - that's no disrespect to them, but it's very difficult to build the sort of brand loyalty whereby fans will go out of a sense of "family", like they did with 1PW. Â It's dying, too, but I think that, before the last event, it was still there; like I say, you only have to look at the vehemence of the posts on the FB page, and their quantity. Â Also, in some respects, I'd say the UKFF has contributed to 1PW's success over the years; doing what we do, it seems to have inspired 1PW fans to construct an "Us vs. Them" scenario out of sheer bloody-mindedness, and it's knit them together more tightly than ever. We are the Jews to their Nazis. Â EDIT: I've seen the guy before, but I never fail to be impressed by Valkabious' look. I reckon he could be WWE-bound pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman89762000 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 When you bring over one of the men responsible for executing the angle/faction that made pro wrestling become popular again and can only draw 80 people there has to be a problem there.... Â As for val kaboulis if he wants to draw i think we should let him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cum Doctor Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Don't misunderstand me: I'm not saying 1PW has loads of name value, I'm saying it has just a smidgin left that endures and, however inexplicable, keeps drawing an extremely loyal core of spackers, which is more than a number of even the best-run promotions in the UK can say - that's no disrespect to them, but it's very difficult to build the sort of brand loyalty whereby fans will go out of a sense of "family", like they did with 1PW. Â I'd say most promotions would be disappointed with a draw of 80, and rightly so. Â The Facebook comments will continue, and will do so in numbers, but they quite simply do not translate to bums in seats and that is pretty evident. A promotion with decent exposure and a good roster should be able to do well. You only have to look at GPW, IPW:UK, PBW, ICW and the likes to see that this is the case. Â Also, in some respects, I'd say the UKFF has contributed to 1PW's success over the years; doing what we do, it seems to have inspired 1PW fans to construct an "Us vs. Them" scenario out of sheer bloody-mindedness, and it's knit them together more tightly than ever. We are the Jews to their Nazis. Â It might have contributed before, but as I've said, even with the Us vs. Them thing still being about, it doesn't really count for much if you're having to cancel shows because nobody wants to see them. Â Nash wasn't on the show with 80 people hitman. He was in BCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 EDIT: I've seen the guy before, but I never fail to be impressed by Valkabious' look. I reckon he could be WWE-bound pretty soon.I'd hope Joel Redman or Dave Mastiff get a look in first if smaller guys from the UK get considered, plus those two are much more intelligent, talented and professional than Val Kabious will ever be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polish Dad Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 As for val kaboulis if he wants to draw i think we should let him! Â That's the first time I've ever seen MVK struggle to draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman89762000 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Oh i assumed the show he was on drew 80 as well... whatever it was it wouldn't have been a decent draw anyway cos like i said the champs league final was on and judging by the posts on here there wasnt much advertizxing done and the card wasnt even really announced was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cum Doctor Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 The Champions League final was on the night after with Nash and the likes on the show, and that drew 200+ as far as I can recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Freebird Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Drifting dangerously back towards topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman89762000 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 mate there are threads on the past opwo shows go and read those before deciding to waste your cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cum Doctor Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Their cards have happened in the past, have they not? You might be watching with about 10 other people, but I'd imagine you'll still get some decent matches from that card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daaaaaad! Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Drifting dangerously back towards topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Freebird Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Why not just go to a show and not drink? Haven't you been chucked out of a few shows for being too drunk? Â Out of the question for me I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted June 14, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted June 14, 2011 EDIT: I've seen the guy before, but I never fail to be impressed by Valkabious' look. I reckon he could be WWE-bound pretty soon.I'd hope Joel Redman or Dave Mastiff get a look in first if smaller guys from the UK get considered, plus those two are much more intelligent, talented and professional than Val Kabious will ever be. I'm guessing you know something about this guy beyond the look. Could you expand? I'm a sucker for the gossip. Â And yeah, you're right about Mastiff and Redman. Although, with my past loyalties, I'd be rooting more for Mastiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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