John Galt Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 That article bobbins linked to is one of the worst white guilt articles I've seen in a long time. The concept of the white male privilege seems like an easy cop out response to justify racism and sexism against most of the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 That article bobbins linked to is one of the worst white guilt articles I've seen in a long time. The concept of the white male privilege seems like an easy cop out response to justify racism and sexism against most of the population. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Judging by his posts on the Premier League thread, David, it's no suprise that bobbins doesn't see the issue with what Abbott said. It's nice to see a Liverpool fan, such as yourself David, approach the issue with a great deal of humility and intelligence. I wish the same could be said for your other fellow Liverpool supporters. Engage with my points or don't. Sneering from the sidelines is cowardice.  I wasn't sneering, nor do I intend to engage in a debate with someone who is clearly still bitter about his ban and having something of a breakdown. Maybe step away from the keyboard just for tonight eh, you mentalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbins Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Judging by his posts on the Premier League thread, David, it's no suprise that bobbins doesn't see the issue with what Abbott said. It's nice to see a Liverpool fan, such as yourself David, approach the issue with a great deal of humility and intelligence. I wish the same could be said for your other fellow Liverpool supporters. Engage with my points or don't. Sneering from the sidelines is cowardice.  I wasn't sneering, nor do I intend to engage in a debate with someone who is clearly still bitter about his ban and having something of a breakdown. Maybe step away from the keyboard just for tonight eh, you mentalist.  [/sneer] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted January 5, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 5, 2012 Just seen this  Babes of the BNP http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/babes-of-the-bnp  Give it a look some of the Q&A answers are priceless. Just a few...  When people say the BNP is a fascist party, what do you think? Fascist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Ronnie Posted January 5, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 5, 2012 ^^ "Babes"? Only if the author is thinking of the star of the eponymous film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 On the subject of Jeremy Clarkson how does that nasty old bigot still have a job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiffy Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Saw that babes of the bnp thing yesterday, very funny. It got even funnier when they did a return interview with one http://ukff.com/index.php?act=post&do=...=4&t=114714 Â As for Clarkson? People like him, so he keeps getting work, not a major mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 For those interested in a)American politics and b) healthcare reform.. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Halitosis Romantic Posted January 6, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 A friend of mine was being fucked over for medical coverage for a long time - 22, and she already had $20,000 debt from medical bills. Obama made it so that she could be on her dad's insurance till she was 26, which probably saved her a doubled bill by that age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Ronnie Posted January 6, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 For those interested in a)American politics and b) healthcare reform.. That's a real feel-good story but I think the response from those hateful Republican extremists would be entirely predictable: "Had she taken personal responsibility in the first place and purchased insurance then she would not have been in that position." Â It's brutal but, given the American system as it is known to be, I don't think anybody could reasonably state that she would've been unavoidably condemned to death without Obamacare. The system is clear over there; if you don't take out health insurance, you have to cover the costs of your treatment. She didn't take out insurance. Â We're far too sensible to have such a system over here but there is something of a parallel: We don't provide universal house insurance and I don't think that we'd be saying that the insurance companies are unreasonable for not insuring against a robbery that has just occurred, nor that the person who failed to take out insurance should be bailed out for having gambled unsuccessfully. Â I'd like to see universal coverage in the USA though, don't get me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Dead Mike Posted January 6, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 The part of the argument I've never quite got is why the (republican) Americans are happy to have nationalised Police & Fire Services but not healthcare? What's the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Yes, the assumption there is that she could have afforded to take out health cover, which presumably she couldn't - many people can't. Â Personally, and without sounding like some massive socialist, but I think universal healthcare is one of those fundamentals of a decent society, and it always amazes me that the US hasn't had it until these recent reforms, which kind of partially introduced it. Â Some things should absolutely be paid for by the state - healthcare and education. Similarly, some things IMO should always be owned and run by the state - transport and energy basically. I doubt there's many people who'd argue that those things are better now than they were when they were state-owned, and they're many times more expensive even than inflation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 This is my favourite thing from the Republic race for a candidate up to now: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Is that for real? Awesome. It's politics meets WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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