Paid Members Dead Mike Posted February 15, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted February 15, 2011 Given we have more people in jail than any other European country I think that people serving shorter sentences should have the right to vote, this would still keep us in line with other Euro nations where people wouldn't be serving time for the same offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny McBride Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 If they're going to be out before the next election then yes. If not, then no. That much should be considered part of the transition back into normal life - you're going back into the world, so you'd better be ready to engage with it, understand the issues and be prepared to contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 That seems a reasonable way of making the distinction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Quagmire Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 If they're going to be out before the next election then yes. If not, then no. That much should be considered part of the transition back into normal life - you're going back into the world, so you'd better be ready to engage with it, understand the issues and be prepared to contribute. That would work fine if the next date of the General Election was cast in stone like fixed terms are in places like the USA, but it isn't here despite what the Coalition says, so that might prove tricky unless you allowed on the Electoral Register anyone who is scheduled to be released before the very latest date the vote can be held - and then what happens if an inmate is released earlier than expected because of good behaviour etc? The only way it could be done is for all prisoners to be on the electoral register, but those still inside would be ineligible to vote on the day bar a few exceptions e.g. remand prisoners as it is now. To me it would be better for certain crimes to include a punishment suspending voting rights for a guilty party for a set amount of time regardless of wherever they're imprisoned or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny McBride Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The government has plans to set fixed-term parliaments, so that issue should be solved relatively soon. Beyond that, yeah, I'd just have eligible to register and make a decision at the time. You would theoretically be able to say that if I guy has behaved well so far and is eligible for parole next year, he's OK to vote, but a guy who is eligible for parole at the same time but who tried to stab a guard last month is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poopants the Scrunge Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The government has plans to set fixed-term parliaments, so that issue should be solved relatively soon. Beyond that, yeah, I'd just have eligible to register and make a decision at the time. You would theoretically be able to say that if I guy has behaved well so far and is eligible for parole next year, he's OK to vote, but a guy who is eligible for parole at the same time but who tried to stab a guard last month is not. Â For the yes vote, I am afraid but only in order to see those corrupt sycophantic baby-kissers try and canvas opinions out of crims. Â It will make The Thick of it look PG i believe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Duane Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I don't think jail is always the answer for crime it doesn't stop crime, but if you go to prison you've been taken out of society for the crime/s you committed and therefore lose your rights to participate in society. Be a good boy, leave prison then vote. Â Couldn't decide whether to post this here or in the positivity thread. The Zeitgeist Movement seems to be positive thing but it's about political philosophy too: Â Â Times in well with the Egyptian uprising. I've watched up to 42mins, impressed so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I don't think jail is always the answer for crime it doesn't stop crime, but if you go to prison you've been taken out of society for the crime/s you committed and therefore lose your rights to participate in society. Be a good boy, leave prison then vote. Apparently women have the vote too. I've heard they might even have prisons but that can't be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Duane Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I don't think jail is always the answer for crime it doesn't stop crime, but if you go to prison you've been taken out of society for the crime/s you committed and therefore lose your rights to participate in society. Be a good boy, leave prison then vote. Apparently women have the vote too. I've heard they might even have prisons but that can't be right. OK, or good girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patiirc Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Given that many of the country do not vote despite having the right to and criminals would make up an very small percentage of those who vote, I cant see what the brouhaha is about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Ford Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Excellent blog post regarding proposed changes to the NHS, from economist Richard Murphy: Â I have been talking to GPs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted February 16, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted February 16, 2011 All the sex offenders are going to be wiped off the register, given new identities, given free condoms and access to schools and let loose. Aaargghh!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Â Larry The Cat arrives at Number 10 Downing Street as chief Ratcatcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matbro1984 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Excellent blog post regarding proposed changes to the NHS, from economist Richard Murphy:Â I have been talking to GPs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Michael Moore also didn't help matters when he heavily implied that Doctor's in the UK all live in million $ Mansion's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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