NeverYield Posted July 24 Posted July 24 16 minutes ago, jimufctna24 said: I was a Fury fan too. Not as big as I was/am with Usyk, but a supporter nonetheless. I'm fairly neutral towards him nowadays. I can understand your reservations about the miles on Fury's clock. I just look at how Usyk beat Fury, and struggle to see how Joshua could do similar. Usyk won those fights through pressuring, a high workrate, and he could deal with Fury's clinch attempts when he needed to. I don't see Joshua plowing forward in the same way, working with the same volume, or being as effective at neutralising Fury's clinch attempts. I could be wrong, but if they stand off with one another, I think Fury has enough foot work and skill left to outbox Joshua and tie him up when he needs to (a bit similar to Fury's bout with Wlad all those years ago, just poorer quality) I can also see, especially after seeing how Joshua's crumbled under Dubois's pressure, a scenario where Fury fights Joshua similarly to how boxed Wilder. In other words, pressuring Joshua, moving him back, and clinching when he needs to, and drawing from his durability if Joshua times him coming in. In that scenario, I can see Fury stopping Joshua. Usyk is unreal isn't he, there isn't many who can say they've done it how he has done it. It won't be as clear cut (if it happens) for Joshua as it was for Usyk, 100% no chance in that happening, agree with you there. The Dubois comparison is a great point as Joshua clearly didn't know how to deal with that and definitely crumbled, there wasn't any resilience there mentally or physically. And talking of Usyk I think the first Usyk fight funninly enough could end up being Fury's last hurrah in terms of looking how he did, it's been a decline from then. I guess we will have to wait and see, it's not clear cut for either man, and it's a terrible shame it's come to this, two men who are lesser versions of themselves, but I suppose another way I can put it is Joshua at this point could potentially be another bannana skin for Fury how Ngannou was. Fury does tend to fight to the level of his opponent though so I am definitely bearing that in mind, if Joshua has a good camp and looks up for it on the night Fury will certainly try and rise to it, and then one up him. Quote
NeverYield Posted July 25 Posted July 25 Stephen Fulton has come on 6.5lbs heavier than he should have for his fight tonight with Liam Wilson. The fights been cancelled. No Charlo or Fulton now on the undercard of Spence-Tsyzu. Quote
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted July 25 Author Paid Members Posted July 25 Yeah, that card has been decimated, real shame, it was a big one for Australian boxing. I will be watching that main event though. Quote
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted July 25 Author Paid Members Posted July 25 The running order for Joshua/Prenga... I've got a free evening so i'll probably tune in from the Jacob Bank fight onward. Kelly/Agyarko is the best fight on the card by a country mile. Lots of controversy around the Sheeraz fight, he's defending his World Title against a guy who lost to Jacob Banks opponent on the same card. Sheeraz reign off to a bizarre start. Quote
NeverYield Posted July 25 Posted July 25 Yeah Kelly-Agyarko is worth a watch, I must admit I'm probably going to start with the BKB tonight, I do like Mick Terrill fighting, Both Fernando Vargas sons are on the card as well. I will be checking in on the Joshua card though, as shit as it is, be interesting to see what sort of performance he puts in Quote
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted July 25 Author Paid Members Posted July 25 Yeah good shout, BKB is really picking up momentum. They had Victor Ortiz fighting for them last week. Good to see Boo Boo Andrade back, where's he been hiding? Quote
NeverYield Posted July 25 Posted July 25 BKB did go into a bit of a lull but I agree they are picking up momentum again, Victor Ortiz on BKB wasn't something I ever thought I'd see. Yeah was good to see Andrade back and as far as I know he's had a lot going on family wise and different issues with promoters and reaching deals when discussing a comeback fight. Hopefully he stays active for a bit now. Quote
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted July 25 Author Paid Members Posted July 25 (edited) Well, what the hell do you take from that? Joshua had the worst opening round imaginable. Joshua/Fury was up in smoke, then AJ pulled it out the bag. Prenga blew it, he should have finished that fight in round 1. I'd imagine we'llvl see Prenga in with a few of Eddie's UK prospects going forward. Joshua/Fury is way past its sell by date, both look shot to different degress, just do it now and get it over with. Edited July 26 by Egg Shen Quote
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 25 Paid Members Posted July 25 It’s sad that we’ve gone from “I really wanna see Fury vs AJ” to “when are we gonna get Fury vs AJ?” to “why aren’t they making Fury vs AJ?” to “are they EVER gonna do Fury vs AJ?” to “Fury vs AJ is never gonna happen” to now, in 2026, when it finally looks like it might happen, we’ve reached this stage… 35 minutes ago, Egg Shen said: just do it now and get it over with. It’s the Heavyweight Brook vs Khan at this point. Just get it the fuck done with so everyone can move on. Quote
d-d-d-dAz Posted July 26 Posted July 26 I'm not sure it happens. The biggest blocker to this fight has always been both lads being utterly horrified at the thought of losing to the other, and i'm not sure that's been made better by a weekend where Fury looked old and Joshua looked fragile. Eddie's already doing prickly interviews, from what i've seen, saying if they try and schedule the fight anywhere but the UK the contracts have to be renegotiated. Quote
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted July 26 Author Paid Members Posted July 26 6 hours ago, wandshogun09 said: It’s sad that we’ve gone from “I really wanna see Fury vs AJ” to “when are we gonna get Fury vs AJ?” to “why aren’t they making Fury vs AJ?” to “are they EVER gonna do Fury vs AJ?” to “Fury vs AJ is never gonna happen” to now, in 2026, when it finally looks like it might happen, we’ve reached this stage… It’s the Heavyweight Brook vs Khan at this point. Just get it the fuck done with so everyone can move on. Yeah, get it done but I dont think there's much chance of it being dull. Anthony Joshua has turned into a latter day-Fedor Emelianenko, he's just having shootouts and someones gotta go. Quote
NeverYield Posted July 26 Posted July 26 Ahh Errol Spence man😔. Right decision to call it a career though. Well, Prenga putting AJ down like that is not a good sign at all That fight didnt really tell us anything at alll worthwhile, and Joshua came out of that looking dreadful.. I said Joshua in any sort of form may give a bumbling Fury nightmares these days but going off that shambles that just isnt the case is it, what a shit show. Enjoyed the BKB. Quote
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted July 26 Author Paid Members Posted July 26 Hamzah Sheeraz stunk it up. One of the most uninspiring title defences ive seen in some time, the other fighters in the division must be chomping at the bit to get that fight. Kelly/Agyarko was a messy but entertaining scrap. Felt Kelly was a little too confident going in, Agyarko roughed him up all over the gaff, I think Kelly had 4-5 cuts on his face, hard night at the office. Quote
jimufctna24 Posted July 26 Posted July 26 2 hours ago, Egg Shen said: Anthony Joshua has turned into a latter day-Fedor Emelianenko, he's just having shootouts and someones gotta go. And like Fedor, he's doing it with a severly diminshed chin/durability. Quote
NeverYield Posted July 26 Posted July 26 Yes I can imagine Sheeraz put a bit of a target on his back after last night. Rough night for Kelly, Boots Ennis will beat him handily. Does anyone think there is a slight chance some skullduggery was afoot in AJ vs Prenga and the fix was in? Prenga looked up for it out the gate and then round 2... Been on the phone to my friend this morning who is absolutely adamant that someone had a word in Prengas ear🤣, seen Simon Jordan (fwiw) and a few others say it, and I mean it's not 100% out of the question at this point Quote
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