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Pagan traditions on December 25th


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Is there anyone on the UKFF like myself who believes in the avoidance of Christmas?

 In an effort to differentiate themselves from the Catholic Church, seventeenth-century Puritans referred to the holiday as “trappings of popery and rags of the beast.” Over the centuries, it has been condemned by various Christian groups, such as Methodists, the Quakers, the Amish, Presbyterians, and Baptists.


 

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I like Christmas but it's nothing to do with religion. I was brought up Catholic but I have fully embraced the commercialisation of the holiday and all that entails. 

Seems to me "avoiding" Christmas is just being difficult for the sake of it. 

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47 minutes ago, SpursRiot2012 said:

I like Christmas but it's nothing to do with religion. I was brought up Catholic but I have fully embraced the commercialisation of the holiday and all that entails. 

Seems to me "avoiding" Christmas is just being difficult for the sake of it. 

Well you could say that Christmas is not from biblical precedent, but from pagan Roman festivals held at year’s end, about the time of the winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere. Those festivals included the Saturnalia, in honor of Saturn, god of agriculture, and the combined festivals of two sun gods, the Roman Sol and the Persian Mithra. Both birthdays were celebrated on December 25, the winter solstice according to the Julian calendar.

I will eat turkey on December 25th with a relative, who is a Worldly person. So i can hardly be described as "Being difficult for the sake of it".

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41 minutes ago, TheKayfabeMonster said:

Well you could say that Christmas is not from biblical precedent, but from pagan Roman festivals held at year’s end, about the time of the winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere. Those festivals included the Saturnalia, in honor of Saturn, god of agriculture, and the combined festivals of two sun gods, the Roman Sol and the Persian Mithra. Both birthdays were celebrated on December 25, the winter solstice according to the Julian calendar.

I will eat turkey on December 25th with a relative, who is a Worldly person. So i can hardly be described as "Being difficult for the sake of it".

OK. My point is I don't care what the origins of Christmas are, I enjoy what it is today. 

What is a Worldly person?

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Being ‘worldly’ can be defined as partaking in the values, desires, perceptions, attitudes, and behaviour that characterize unredeemed human cultures. The worldly person is one who is squeezed into the mold of the ‘kosmos’ i.e. the world system or the world’s way of thinking, in contrast to one whose whole world view has been transformed by God (Rom 12:2). Worldliness is not necessarily a matter of participating in questionable activities or adopting certain styles of dress or appearance, as some christians in every generation have supposed. It is rather the acceptance of the values and assumptions of a society that has no place for God.

Sounds like my kind of people tbh. 

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7 minutes ago, PunkStep said:

Fucking hell, barrel of laughs in here innit.

Well, the football is making me laugh!  That's a Christmas tradition, Arsenal capitulating once Wenger breaks out the massive coat.

 

EDIT - Oh, it's that Jovo who got banned.

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