TheKayfabeMonster Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Is there anyone on the UKFF like myself who believes in the avoidance of Christmas? In an effort to differentiate themselves from the Catholic Church, seventeenth-century Puritans referred to the holiday as “trappings of popery and rags of the beast.” Over the centuries, it has been condemned by various Christian groups, such as Methodists, the Quakers, the Amish, Presbyterians, and Baptists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted December 2, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted December 2, 2017 I like Christmas but it's nothing to do with religion. I was brought up Catholic but I have fully embraced the commercialisation of the holiday and all that entails. Seems to me "avoiding" Christmas is just being difficult for the sake of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Festivus is two days before, that's all I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKayfabeMonster Posted December 2, 2017 Author Share Posted December 2, 2017 47 minutes ago, SpursRiot2012 said: I like Christmas but it's nothing to do with religion. I was brought up Catholic but I have fully embraced the commercialisation of the holiday and all that entails. Seems to me "avoiding" Christmas is just being difficult for the sake of it. Well you could say that Christmas is not from biblical precedent, but from pagan Roman festivals held at year’s end, about the time of the winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere. Those festivals included the Saturnalia, in honor of Saturn, god of agriculture, and the combined festivals of two sun gods, the Roman Sol and the Persian Mithra. Both birthdays were celebrated on December 25, the winter solstice according to the Julian calendar. I will eat turkey on December 25th with a relative, who is a Worldly person. So i can hardly be described as "Being difficult for the sake of it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator Onyx2 Posted December 2, 2017 Awards Moderator Share Posted December 2, 2017 Hoping I don't draw @TheKayfabeMonsterin Secret Santa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Justice Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted December 2, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted December 2, 2017 41 minutes ago, TheKayfabeMonster said: Well you could say that Christmas is not from biblical precedent, but from pagan Roman festivals held at year’s end, about the time of the winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere. Those festivals included the Saturnalia, in honor of Saturn, god of agriculture, and the combined festivals of two sun gods, the Roman Sol and the Persian Mithra. Both birthdays were celebrated on December 25, the winter solstice according to the Julian calendar. I will eat turkey on December 25th with a relative, who is a Worldly person. So i can hardly be described as "Being difficult for the sake of it". OK. My point is I don't care what the origins of Christmas are, I enjoy what it is today. What is a Worldly person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKayfabeMonster Posted December 2, 2017 Author Share Posted December 2, 2017 11 minutes ago, SpursRiot2012 said: OK. My point is I don't care what the origins of Christmas are, I enjoy what it is today. What is a Worldly person? A "Worldly person" is someone who does not follow The Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, TheKayfabeMonster said: A "Worldly person" is someone who does not follow The Truth. Do you mean an Atheist or a left side mind person or whatever the fuck they like to call themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamaras-Tash Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Oh dear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted December 2, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted December 2, 2017 Being ‘worldly’ can be defined as partaking in the values, desires, perceptions, attitudes, and behaviour that characterize unredeemed human cultures. The worldly person is one who is squeezed into the mold of the ‘kosmos’ i.e. the world system or the world’s way of thinking, in contrast to one whose whole world view has been transformed by God (Rom 12:2). Worldliness is not necessarily a matter of participating in questionable activities or adopting certain styles of dress or appearance, as some christians in every generation have supposed. It is rather the acceptance of the values and assumptions of a society that has no place for God. Sounds like my kind of people tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted December 2, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted December 2, 2017 Fucking hell, barrel of laughs in here innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKayfabeMonster Posted December 2, 2017 Author Share Posted December 2, 2017 22 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said: Do you mean an Atheist or a left side mind person or whatever the fuck they like to call themselves? Is there any need for that language? I am happy to have a serious conversation, but you give me the impression of a person of Bad Association. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted December 2, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted December 2, 2017 lol what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, PunkStep said: Fucking hell, barrel of laughs in here innit. Well, the football is making me laugh! That's a Christmas tradition, Arsenal capitulating once Wenger breaks out the massive coat. EDIT - Oh, it's that Jovo who got banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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