Richie Freebird Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 Oh calm down you grumpy old twats, it's only a bit of innocent daftness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted October 12, 2012 Moderators Share Posted October 12, 2012 This makes no sense Richie, you crazy hick.That's not what your missus said when I bung her last night.Well that's where you look stupid, because I don't have a girlfriend! Hah!..... I'm so alone Hold me, Richie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 My mother says "wished" when she means "wish." She's using proper past tense but meaning present tense. Like a wanker, I always mock it."I wished someone would come and help me decorate the living room.""When did you wish that? Stupid old cunt." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Freebird Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 The post mortem showed that Barrymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Ronnie Posted October 12, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted October 12, 2012 ^ Ha! That one moke me laugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted October 12, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted October 12, 2012 It's sometimes the case that a strong verb (so irregular) regularises over time - what was once 'dreamt' is now accepted as also 'dreamed', 'learnt' as 'learned'.Aren't these both acceptable because of the tenses - the difference between "I dreamed / I learned" and "I had dreamt / I had learnt" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Ronnie Posted October 12, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted October 12, 2012 It's sometimes the case that a strong verb (so irregular) regularises over time - what was once 'dreamt' is now accepted as also 'dreamed', 'learnt' as 'learned'.Aren't these both acceptable because of the tenses - the difference between "I dreamed / I learned" and "I had dreamt / I had learnt" ?Let's have a look.Your first examples are the simple past tense (called the preterite) - think 'I came, I saw, I conquered.'Your second examples are the pluperfect tense, which doesn't use the preterite form of the verb but the past participle. In your example they're hard to spot because the verb forms look and sound so similar, but if you change the verb then you see the contrast: 'I went' but 'I had gone', 'I was' but 'I had been'.So the question to answer is whether one form of 'dream' or 'learn' is preterite and the other the past participle (which is what your question boils down to), or whether there's interchangeability (because the two forms both apply in the same sense, which is what my comment meant) . In this thread we've been looking at preterites only, so I'll stick to that.Here's use of 'dreamed' from Clive Barker:I dreamed I spoke in another's language,I dreamed I lived in another's skin,I dreamed I was my own beloved,I dreamed I was a tiger's kin.I dreamed that Eden lived inside me,And when I breathed a garden came,I dreamed I knew all of Creation,I dreamed I knew the Creator's name.I dreamed--and this dream was the finest--That all I dreamed was real and true,And we would live in joy forever,You in me, and me in you.'Dreamt' is also used as a preterite, in this example by Daphne Du Maurier: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fye Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Specialouze = a kind of goo that changed the lives of Donatello, Michaelangelo, Raphael and Leonardofixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patiirc Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Where does 'turnt' stand in the list. Used these days in a variety of different ways including being stoned or generally getting fucked up. but is someone saying 'I turnt round the corner' or similar is also becoming more common place, around here. It should be 'turned', shouldn't it? And not some long lost version of turned that no one has informed me of, ever.Regarding the words ending in 't' like dreamt. Google spell checker in Chrome will decide on the day whether it puts a red line under them or not. Most confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I hate it when I hear people say 'thunk' instead of thought and 'tret' instead of treatedI always think the usage of "tret" signifies a very low-class, uneducated person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted October 13, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted October 13, 2012 A girl I know says 'thrun' when she means 'thrown'. "My last boyfriend was a right bastard. I thrun him out in the end." I think was the way she put it. Twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Ronnie Posted October 13, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted October 13, 2012 It should be 'turned', shouldn't it? And not some long lost version of turned that no one has informed me of, ever.Yes. The origin is the Old English verb 'turnian', which was a weak verb, so it was 'turnde' in the preterite singular (and 'turndon' *chortle* for plural). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Freebird Posted October 13, 2012 Author Share Posted October 13, 2012 I wish I never got started thinking about this. My brain is naturally inventing bullshit words now: Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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