King Pitcos Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) Cheers johnnyboy. So patrol cars are just stopping the people behaving suspiciously or acting on gathered intelligence rather than blanket racial stereotyping, then. Edited August 7, 2011 by King Pitcos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildSybianRider Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Cheers johnnyboy. So patrol cars are just stopping the people behaving suspiciously or acting on gathered intelligence rather than racial profiling, then. Â Â That's what they're meant to do. But the legislation is hardly going to say "stop all niggers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Christ I'm amongst the first people to call the police ot for acting out of line but even I can't deny that this was a by all accounts peacfull protest that was hijacked by a bunch of thugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Deaq Posted August 7, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted August 7, 2011 They are reporting on the news that they have no idea if people have been killed in some of the fires in the flats. Â Just looks like a bunch of scum pissed off that the Police tried to police someone in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 That's what they're meant to do. But the legislation is hardly going to say "stop all niggers". Why would they be stopping all "niggers" anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildSybianRider Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 That's not what I said. More that stop and searches have a staggeringly low rate of conviction and - allied with the statistics Whiskey already posted that a disproportionate number of searches are of minorities - I don't think it's a stretch to say they can easily be seen as antagonistic towards (particularly socioethnic) communities. Efforts to reduce recorded data about stop and search powers certainly don't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I don't think it's a stretch to say they can easily be seen as antagonistic towards (particularly socioethnic) communities. Towards what purpose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big mickey Posted August 7, 2011 Author Share Posted August 7, 2011 To be fair to the stop & searches though, a lot of the major troubles in the areas do seem to be revolved around a gang culture in young black males. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Problem is when the Police use their powers they are being heavy handed but when they hold back you then have people complaining that they are too soft, Justice Secretary Ken Clarke is an utter cock but he probably has one of the worst positions in the Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildSybianRider Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Towards what purpose? Â I'm not saying they are intentionally antagonistic. Saying that they can be perceived as such and not just by a black drug dealer crying racism when he's caught with dope on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I'm not saying they are intentionally antagonistic. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spurs 4 life Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Problem is when the Police use their powers they are being heavy handed but when they hold back you then have people complaining that they are too soft, Justice Secretary Ken Clarke is an utter cock but he probably has one of the worst positions in the Government. Exactly. Â I'd never be a copper it's a thankless task. Â I've heard people complain the police weren't quick enough to deal with it and yet if they had gone out full force straight away then you would have people complaining of police brutality over a peaceful demonstration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Dammer Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 As a black or asian person you're seven times for likely to be stopped and searched. http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2010/jun/17/...d-search-police  May have been mentioned as ive not read on, but these stats and figures are pointless unless they are matched up with actual crime figures too. For instance, theres no point searching white 70 year old women if they are only responsible for 0.1% of serious crime over the last ten years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) I'm not saying they are intentionally antagonistic. Â Â Fair enough. Â Game, set and match Pitcos. Â Targeting of stop and searches is done for pragmatic reasons. The underlying reasons as to why black youths are more likely to be carrying knives and firearms should be what people are concerned about, rather than trying to make the police out to be institutionally racist. I'm not saying there isn't institutional racism still lingering within the Met, but it's more directed at black/minority police officers than actually played out on the street. Edited August 7, 2011 by Loki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildSybianRider Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Think you need to re-read what's been said, dickbrain. Â (or prance off and ignore the thread like you usually do when you're wrong.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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