spurs 4 life Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Or maybe because of a lack of connection with youths the police believe their clothes to suggest 'thug' or 'gangster' when really it's just 'a kid with his hood up'. And he's entitled to do that without being harassed. Â Utterly clueless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I lived there for over 20 years, i work in a betting shop which is often the centre of where these scum hang out. Your not pretty sure of anything, your just another wanker on the internet spouting bollocks because he can. No your not entitled to an opinion as the Prime minister unlike you has access to a load of information and can talk to people who live and work in these areas.  You can call me a wanker all you want mate. But I guarantee you that going around calling people wankers or scum won't save your area. And it's got nothing to do with the internet. I'd state my opinions to you in person.  Utterly clueless...  Explain how then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spurs 4 life Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 You can call me a wanker all you want mate. But I guarantee you that going around calling people wankers or scum won't save your area. And it's got nothing to do with the internet. I'd state my opinions to you in person.   Explain how then...  Every post i've made in this thread should explain it to you but your so set on your agenda you have ignored the fact that unlike you i have lived and worked there for half my life, unlike you i still know people who live and work there.  It has everything to do with the internet as you would never meet someone from Tottenham in person so from your un burnt home you can spout all the conspiracy theories you like.  When your friend has had sawn off shot guns pointed at his head whilst the fella goes stay down ash, note he knew his name as the prick went into the shop every day, when your friends have been chased out of their jobs by gangs of large teenagers after witnessing people being stabbed in the head over some loose change, after being punched and watching kids as young as 14 pull knives out on the police. When you have lived in Tottenham and had to meet your girlfriend at her car as you were both scared to walk the 50 yards back to your house as the chances of you getting mugged are stupidly high, when you have been to my area as you put it, lived in it, experienced what the mentality is, then after all that i'll happily let you come on the internet and spout bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 A few years ago West Ham fans arrived in Tottenham at one in the afternoon about 7 hours before a game. They smashed up a pub and some other stuff. People laughed at how pathetic it was but at the time i worked in a William Hill right next to the Spurs ground. The next day the amount of terrified old people i had coming in was so sad.  I have views on this that will make me sound like a daily mail reader but i lived in the area for over 20 years. The carpet right that was destroyed was 2 minutes from my old family home, i worked in the William hill that Sky are reporting in front of so i think i have a pretty good grasp of whats going on.  This isn't the police's fault it's a product of an area that is so rough that many times the police are scared to be there, it's a product of it being filled with kids who have no respect for human life and for years now having been getting away with it  I agree completely with all your posts spurs 4 life, particularly the bit in bold, and when these punks are chased and confronted they start moaning about how the police is 'out to get dem'. I have no sympathy for these fuckers who are out to deliberately cause trouble and whilst doing it raid their local JD sports and smash shit up.  This shooting from Thursday is now in the hands of the IPCC, the Police are banned from discussing it and so are the IPCC until the investigation is completed. I don't have anything against the (peaceful) protesting but it seems to me looking at some of those giving interviews they didn't understand the concept that an investigation is required and being conducted and there won't be any official answers for a month or so which in turn leads to them feeling they aren't being listened to which in turn give those looking for trouble the spark to vent out their 'frustration' which leads to shit kicking off.  The Police can't win either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Every post i've made in this thread should explain it to you but your so set on your agenda you have ignored the fact that unlike you i have lived and worked there for half my life, unlike you i still know people who live and work there. It has everything to do with the internet as you would never meet someone from Tottenham in person so from your un burnt home you can spout all the conspiracy theories you like.  When your friend has had sawn off shot guns pointed at his head whilst the fella goes stay down ash, note he knew his name as the prick went into the shop every day, when your friends have been chased out of their jobs by gangs of large teenagers after witnessing people being stabbed in the head over some loose change, after being punched and watching kids as young as 14 pull knives out on the police. When you have lived in Tottenham and had to meet your girlfriend at her car as you were both scared to walk the 50 yards back to your house as the chances of you getting mugged are stupidly high, when you have been to my area as you put it, lived in it, experienced what the mentality is, then after all that i'll happily let you come on the internet and spout bollocks.  I'm not disputing the fact that shit stuff happens there. I'm saying that there are better ways of dealing with it. I haven't got a set agenda - apart from wanting to see people working together more and less hatred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spurs 4 life Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I'm not disputing the fact that shit stuff happens there. I'm saying that there are better ways of dealing with it. I haven't got a set agenda - apart from wanting to see people working together more and less hatred. Â If you had met the little fuckers who did this you would know that working closer with them isn't an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I'm not disputing the fact that shit stuff happens there. I'm saying that there are better ways of dealing with it. I haven't got a set agenda - apart from wanting to see people working together more and less hatred. Â These little shits have absolutely no intention of working together with the Police or their community, they are out for themselves and their mates and will run over anyone in their way. Â These people are complete thugs and criminals and no amount of youth centres or community meetings will ever solve these issues. They will always be out to make life shit for everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) I'm not disputing the fact that shit stuff happens there. I'm saying that there are better ways of dealing with it. I haven't got a set agenda - apart from wanting to see people working together more and less hatred. Â EDIT: Double post. Edited August 7, 2011 by Jas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 As a black or asian person you're seven times for likely to be stopped and searched. http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2010/jun/17/...d-search-police I didn't ask who was more likely to be stopped.  What criteria should be used for stop and search? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I didn't ask who was more likely to be stopped. What criteria should be used for stop and search?  You've asked two different questions now. In terms of stop/search criteria I suggest you look it up yourself - I'm sure it'll be available online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Tommy! Posted August 7, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted August 7, 2011 I see London Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 If you had met the little fuckers who did this you would know that working closer with them isn't an option. Â No that's right, because they're scum incapable of communicating with other people. Silly me, I'll get back in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spurs 4 life Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 No that's right, because they're scum incapable of communicating with other people. Silly me, I'll get back in line. Ok mate whatever you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 You've asked two different questions now. Yeah, you didn't answer the first one. Â In terms of stop/search criteria I suggest you look it up yourself - I'm sure it'll be available online. Can't find it, you'll have to give me a link. Or, y'know, your opinion on what criteria they should be using to stop and search people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Green Posted August 7, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted August 7, 2011 No that's right, because they're scum incapable of communicating with other people. Silly me, I'll get back in line. What sort of work do you do, Whiskey? Out of curiosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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