Paid Members Ron Simmons Posted June 3, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted June 3, 2011 With super-injunctions and their merits one of the hot topics in the news right now, alongside the subject of privacy (Max Mosley's scandal-inspired campaign to have some sort of law/protection placed against media intrusion) I thought I'd ask the people of the UKFF what they think of the whole thing - specifically, do they think the country NEEDS some sort of privacy law?  There's no specific law dealing with privacy in this country, although the Human Rights Act 1998 seems to have kind of created one anyway. But do we need something specific, or are things fine as they are? Judges interpretation of the law is creating protection for certain individuals right now, but is that right? Is there a line between free speech and intrusion that shouldn't be crossed?  As for super-injunctions, Jeremy Clarkson said that only the rich and famous could afford them, but only the rich and famous need them - his point isn't exactly true, take a look at: The Sun's story about a policewoman swinger  The Daily Mail "exposes" Tesco workers for slagging off customers  The Daily Express says Dunblane Survivors have "shamed" the memory of the victims of the massacre (although they later apologized for this article)  Are those kind of stories fair game, or is there a place for super-injunctions or a something similar in the UK? Do we need a privacy law, or alternatively should the press get more freedom to report on what they see fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members DJ Kris Posted June 3, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted June 3, 2011 I think we need something, the media has created this issue for themselves by frequently trying to distroy lives in order to sell papers. I've always remembered when the News of the World ran a story about David Beckham having an affair, it was something like 8 whole pages dedicated to trying to break up someone's marrage. I don't believe it was even true and I know recently a former "Journalist" came out and said his editor would frequently have him make up a story or twist a story to the point it barely resembled the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeg_&_The_Heads Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 It depends if it's something to do with a person private life then I don't care now if that person is doing illegal stuff and or hurting other people then it should come out and that person have to deal with the consequences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandingo's Donger Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Yeah we don't need anti-privacy laws, we need anti-shithouses in the media printing lies and gossip as opposed to actual news laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Dead Mike Posted June 3, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted June 3, 2011 Alternatively the British public could vote with their wallets & not keep buying shite 'newspapers'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeg_&_The_Heads Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Alternatively the British public could vote with their wallets & not keep buying shite 'newspapers'. Only time I ever buy one is if they have got a free gift I want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 We don't need a privacy law. We need a properly independent Press Regulator that has teeth, not just fines but the power to shut a paper down altogether. It needs to be completely independent of the press, preferably with judges sitting on it, funded by the government but not run by the government. Â The PCC is a joke, and a big reason that the press in this country feel free to print whatever they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members chokeout Posted June 3, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted June 3, 2011 We don't need a privacy law. We need a properly independent Press Regulator that has teeth, not just fines but the power to shut a paper down altogether. It needs to be completely independent of the press, preferably with judges sitting on it, funded by the government but not run by the government. The PCC is a joke, and a big reason that the press in this country feel free to print whatever they like.  ^ This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbafish Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Alternatively the British public could vote with their wallets & not keep buying shite 'newspapers'. Â Precisely. The Divine Comedy got it spot on in the lyrics for 'Generation Sex' in reference to the Diana accident: Â Lovers watch their backs as hacks in macs Take snaps through telephoto lenses Chase Mercedes Benz' through the night A mourning nation weeps and wails But keeps the sales of evil tabloids healthy The poor protect the wealthy in this world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 The PCC is a joke, SWERVE~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members DJ Kris Posted June 3, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted June 3, 2011 Alternatively the British public could vote with their wallets & not keep buying shite 'newspapers'. Which isn't going to happen, therefore someone else needs to stop the press from being such utter, utter vile cunts. I'm all for having the freedom to print actual news, but these half truth gossip storys really need to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 We don't need a privacy law. We need a properly independent Press Regulator that has teeth, not just fines but the power to shut a paper down altogether. It needs to be completely independent of the press, preferably with judges sitting on it, funded by the government but not run by the government. The PCC is a joke, and a big reason that the press in this country feel free to print whatever they like.  Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeg_&_The_Heads Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 The Tesco one is pretty stupid does it really surprise anyone that people who work in places like Tesco or anywhere else where they have to deal directly with customers have a bitch about some of the ones they have to deal with and some customers I've seen myself whilst shopping they deserved to be bitched about. Â Yes of course you also get some employees who are at fault just because they can't be arsed to do their job and get pissed off if a customer has the audacity to ask them to do what they are been paid to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
textonly Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I agree with the suggestion that puts liability more on the press etc. The only thing I didn't like about the Giggs super-injunction business is that it gagged an involved party. Regardless of what you think about Imogen or her role or even the fact that she may have wanted to sell her story, unless blackmail was definitely involved I just don't think it's right to legally prohibit someone from talking about something that happened to them. If there was a law that prohibited direct profit from the story or one that prohibited its publication if deemed outside the public interest, then I think that's fair enough, but gagging one party just because the other party wants protection and can afford to make it happen has to be stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeg_&_The_Heads Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I agree with the suggestion that puts liability more on the press etc. The only thing I didn't like about the Giggs super-injunction business is that it gagged an involved party. Regardless of what you think about Imogen or her role or even the fact that she may have wanted to sell her story, unless blackmail was definitely involved I just don't think it's right to legally prohibit someone from talking about something that happened to them. If there was a law that prohibited direct profit from the story or one that prohibited its publication if deemed outside the public interest, then I think that's fair enough, but gagging one party just because the other party wants protection and can afford to make it happen has to be stopped. Â I agree with that maybe at most give the person wanting a super injunction a week or 2 so he/she can tall their family themselves then after that if the other person wants to tell their story they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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