mickfan Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Not true at all. Spitfire works more dates than most the blokes on this list hands down AND he's a solid performer. A safe pair of hands who can wrestle various styles but his technical, chain wrestling style is really, really good. Seems like theres still some sour grapes from the 'racism on facebook' thread earlier this year. He's racist? I didn't even realise that. I just knew he was characterless and dull - one of these guys who thinks it's okay to invest all your time in watching World of Sport tapes but only pays attention to the style and the workrate, without getting any of the character. Boring, and now that he's also revealed to be racist, he can definitely fuck off. Â Â Not true at all. Spitfire works more dates than most the blokes on this list hands down AND he's a solid performer. A safe pair of hands who can wrestle various styles but his technical, chain wrestling style is really, really good. Seems like theres still some sour grapes from the 'racism on facebook' thread earlier this year. Â It actually comes from seeing him a while back when he appeared for BCW. Granted that was a few years back, but he really was not very good, and the worst of the wZw lot that used to frequent... well, second worst behind GTS, but even he managed to have a fucking stoater of a match one time. Â Ok, the fact the most successfull promoter in Europe consistantly books him vetoes anything both you tossers said. Well done El Ligero. Excellent wrestler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tattooedgooner Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 (credit Tony Knox) well done fella even if you did "El Booto" me  Haha That's gold!  Honestly deserves the top spot. A lot of people in the wrestling business claim they eat, sleep, and breath professional wrestling, but I know for El Ligero that it's the truth. I've never met somebody so dedicated to something in my life. Deserves the top spot 120%!  Spoken with perfection  also thank you Benny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobystag Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Not true at all. Spitfire works more dates than most the blokes on this list hands down AND he's a solid performer. A safe pair of hands who can wrestle various styles but his technical, chain wrestling style is really, really good. Seems like theres still some sour grapes from the 'racism on facebook' thread earlier this year. He's racist? I didn't even realise that. I just knew he was characterless and dull - one of these guys who thinks it's okay to invest all your time in watching World of Sport tapes but only pays attention to the style and the workrate, without getting any of the character. Boring, and now that he's also revealed to be racist, he can definitely fuck off. Â Â Not true at all. Spitfire works more dates than most the blokes on this list hands down AND he's a solid performer. A safe pair of hands who can wrestle various styles but his technical, chain wrestling style is really, really good. Seems like theres still some sour grapes from the 'racism on facebook' thread earlier this year. Â It actually comes from seeing him a while back when he appeared for BCW. Granted that was a few years back, but he really was not very good, and the worst of the wZw lot that used to frequent... well, second worst behind GTS, but even he managed to have a fucking stoater of a match one time. Â Ok, the fact the most successfull promoter in Europe consistantly books him vetoes anything both you tossers said. Well done El Ligero. Excellent wrestler. Â The most successful promoter in America and the entire world EVER, books and kept a lot of dross on their roster - Khali, Brakkus, etc etc - So your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Big Benny HG Posted October 11, 2011 Author Paid Members Share Posted October 11, 2011 For those of you who may be interested, the updated overall cumulative rankings over the last 7 years (i.e. performances on the independent UK wrestling circuit throughout the 2005-2011 period) now look like this: Â Â 1 Spud 2 Jonny Storm 3 El Ligero 4 Martin Stone 5 Dave Mastiff 6 Johnny Moss 7 Doug Williams 8 Stixx 9 Bubblegum 10 Zack Sabre Jr 11 Joey Hayes 12 Darkside James Scott 12 RJ Singh 14 Lionheart 15 Greg Burridge 16 Martin Kirby 17 Kris Travis 18 Mark Haskins 19 Terry Frazier 20 Robbie Brookside 21 Mad Man Manson 22 Pac 23 Majik 24 Marty Scurll 25 Andy Simmonz 25 James Mason 27 Joel Redman 28 Alex Shane 28 CJ Banks 28 Ricky Knight 28 Sha Samuels 32 Falcon 32 James Tighe 34 Jody Fleisch 34 Mikey Whiplash 36 Jack Storm 37 Liam Thomson 38 Zebra Kid 39 James Wallace 40 Johnny Kidd 41 Cameron Kraze 42 Jetta 43 Luke "Dragon" Phoenix 44 Aviv Maayan 44 Wolfgang 46 Drew Galloway (Drew McIntyre) 47 Paul Malen 48 BT Gunn 49 Hade Vansen 49 Stevie Knight 51 Dragon Aisu 52 Kid Fite 52 Sam Slam 54 Iceman 54 Robbie Dynamite 56 Leroy Kincaide 57 Johnny Saint 57 Phil Powers 59 Sam Bailey 60 T-Bone 61 Derice Coffee 62 Scott Renwick 62 Stevie Lynn 64 Nathan Cruz 65 Conscience 66 Ashe (New Breed) 66 Noam Dar 68 Steve Grey 69 Carl Conroy 69 Drew McDonald 71 Jack Gallagher 72 Eden Black 73 Jon Ryan 74 Seamus O'Shaunessy (Sheamus) 75 Mark Belton 76 Gilligan Gordon 76 Justin Richards 76 Red Lightning 79 Danny Hope 79 JD Knight 79 Phil Bedwell / Curve 79 Val Kabious 83 The Saint 84 Lightning Kid Mark Andrews 85 Adam Shame 85 Johnny Phere 85 Mal Sanders 88 Ashley Reed 88 JC Thunder 90 Paul Travell 90 Wild Boar Mike Hitchman 92 Mark Sloan 93 Mohmed Ameen 93 Owen Phoenix 95 Andy Wild 96 Joseph Conners 96 TJ Cain 98 Eric Canyon 98 Sweet Saraya 100 Robbie X 101 Andy Hogg 101 Behnam Ali 101 Chris Renfrew 104 Damon Leigh 104 Keith Myatt 106 Danny Garnell 106 Dirk Feelgood 108 Damien O'Connor 108 Dean Allmark 110 Cyanide 110 Jon Ritchie 112 Colossus Kennedy 113 Jack Xavier 113 Lion Kid 113 Zack Diamond 116 Bulk 116 Kid Richie 116 Max Angelus 119 Chris Whitton 120 Heresy 121 Charlie Rage 121 Eddie Reyes 123 Dan Head 123 Zak Zodiac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Eddie Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 The best thing about this whole UK50 idea is that you only have to look at the top 20 or so guys to realise that anyone saying there is no World Class talent in the UK has been looking in the wrong places (or is just plain wrong). Â The top 25 of this year's list would make a damn fine TV roster. It's just a shame there's no-one with "Vince money" to do them justice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra_gordo Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 The best thing about this whole UK50 idea is that you only have to look at the top 20 or so guys to realise that anyone saying there is no World Class talent in the UK has been looking in the wrong places (or is just plain wrong). The top 25 of this year's list would make a damn fine TV roster. It's just a shame there's no-one with "Vince money" to do them justice!  Well said. Folk give britwres too hard a time or just jump on the bandwagon with those who say it's all skinny kids in pleather. You can't argue with the level of quality of some of the guys on these lists. Look at the top 25 for that combined list for christs sake, it's hardly shitarse city is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamicazze Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 For those of you who may be interested, the updated overall cumulative rankings over the last 7 years (i.e. performances on the independent UK wrestling circuit throughout the 2005-2011 period) now look like this: How many of these are retired though? Â ps. I'm a spacker who quotes massive posts and adds one line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cum Doctor Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Ok, the fact the most successfull promoter in Europe consistantly books him vetoes anything both you tossers said. Well done El Ligero. Excellent wrestler. Â My opinion has been vetoed? Erm... naw. Fuck off back under your rock you utter spenk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey_Jim Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Ok, the fact the most successfull promoter in Europe consistantly books him vetoes anything both you tossers said. Well done El Ligero. Excellent wrestler. Â My opinion has been vetoed? Erm... naw. Fuck off back under your rock you utter spenk. the point is a relevant one when you bare in mind that Brian Dixon obviously knows a good wrestler far better than you do..... hence why hes the most successful promoter outside of the Americas and Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickfan Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Ok, the fact the most successfull promoter in Europe consistantly books him vetoes anything both you tossers said. Well done El Ligero. Excellent wrestler. Â My opinion has been vetoed? Erm... naw. Fuck off back under your rock you utter spenk. Â You went on as if my opinion on Spitfire should be vetoed, fucking twonk. Let's just agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cum Doctor Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I just said that my opinion was based on more than some stuff about racism that could be fiction for all I know and went on to explain where I seen him and why I think what I think. I was having a go at the "you only said that because he's a racist!" stuff which is blatantly not true. I couldn't give a toss whether a wrestler is a nice guy, or a racist, or anything else for that matter. I don't pay my money to see nice guys. I pay money to see good wrestling, and Spitfire doesn't give that.  the point is a relevant one when you bare in mind that Brian Dixon obviously knows a good wrestler far better than you do  It's also a point that Dingbat shot down in quick order, and therefore not one worth revisiting. Funnily enough, I don't see anyone going back and answering that, even though people see fit to bring it up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickfan Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I just said that my opinion was based on more than some stuff about racism that could be fiction for all I know and went on to explain where I seen him and why I think what I think. I was having a go at the "you only said that because he's a racist!" stuff which is blatantly not true. I couldn't give a toss whether a wrestler is a nice guy, or a racist, or anything else for that matter. I don't pay my money to see nice guys. I pay money to see good wrestling, and Spitfire doesn't give that.  the point is a relevant one when you bare in mind that Brian Dixon obviously knows a good wrestler far better than you do  It's also a point that Dingbat shot down in quick order, and therefore not one worth revisiting. Funnily enough, I don't see anyone going back and answering that, even though people see fit to bring it up again.  A correct point isn't worth revisiting? Fuck off. Dixon's been booking since you were shitting your nappies. He needs good hands like Spitfire, Kid Cool and Allmark cause they have a decent match, know how to work various styles and can fill however long you need. The same way WWE emplyed the likes of Val Venis, IRS and Duane Gill so long. Just good, solid workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobystag Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 And Little Legs main events every night. Â Good, solid workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adii202 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I have worked on shows with Spitfire and have to say that he is not a great worker a lot of his stuff looks sloppy and weak, it was defos one of the worst matches I have seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey_Jim Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I have worked on shows with Spitfire and have to say that he is not a great worker a lot of his stuff looks sloppy and weak, it was defos one of the worst matches I have seen sorry, who are you, pal? while your on here bitching, hes out making money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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