Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted June 3 Paid Members Share Posted June 3 (edited) Back at high altitude in Salt Lake City, Utah with this beauty⦠PPV MAIN CARD Dustin Poirier vs Justin GaethjeĀ - BMF Title Jan Blachowicz vs Alex PereiraĀ Derrick Lewis vs Marcos Rogerio De Lima Tony Ferguson vs Bobby GreenĀ Kevin Holland vs Michael ChiesaĀ ESPN PRELIMSĀ Trevin Giles vs Gabriel Bonfim CJ Vergara vs Vinicius Salvador Roman Kopylov vs Claudio Ribeiro Jake Matthews vs Darrius Flowers ESPN+/FIGHT PASS PRELIMSĀ Matthew Semelsberger vs Uros Medic Miranda Maverick vs Priscila CachoeiraĀ Ā What a card! This show is the result of Danaās pathetic pettiness. His direct response to the announcement that Francis Ngannou had signed with PFL was to scramble to UFC headquarters, get the matchmakers out of bed and call an emergency meeting to throw this lot together. Iāll take it. Could do without the BMF shit but if thatās the cost in exchange for getting Poirier vs Gaethje 2 then itās a small price to pay. As usual, the bout order is gonna change multiple times. Iāll edit as we go. Ā Ā Dustin Poirier vs Justin Gaethje 2 main events this bad boy. For the prestigious BMF belt. A championship exclusively for āBad Mother Fuckersā. Cringey as hell and this fight certainly didnāt need a bollocks gimmick title belt attached to it but you know what the UFC are like. Unless itās Conor McGregor, PPVs must be headlined by title fights or something. Even if itās not a proper title. Whatever. Itās unnecessary but it doesnāt detract from what is gonna be as close as you can get to a guaranteed FOTY candidate. When you lock Poirier and Gaethje in a cage and give them 25 minutes to work with, thereās not really another outcome other than total bedlam for however long it lasts. Theyāve both made their respective careers off basically being the MMA equivalent of Arturo Gatti and Mickey Ward. I donāt see why theyād break the habit of a lifetime this late in the game. Itās gonna be another dogfight. They squared off in the main event of a Fight Night back in April 2018. Quite possibly my favourite fight in the history of the Lightweight division. And you know that covers some ground. I havenāt seen it in a while and I think Iāve already reviewed it somewhere on here but Iāll definitely be revisiting it before this rematch regardless. Any excuse. It went into the 4th round and was an insane fight. Just an all-out war. I remember Gaethje giving him hell for the first few rounds and absolutely blasting him with a load of crippling leg kicks to the point it really looked like Poirier wasnāt gonna survive. But he dug deep and somehow came out in the 4th and just ended Gaethje. If I remember right, it was one of them where it kind of felt like that finishing barrage was almost a last ditch effort from Dustin. Had he not got Gaethje out of there then, I donāt think he couldāve held up much longer. And that says it all when you know how tough Poirier is. He went for broke and it paid off. Amazing fight. It was all respect post-fight and itās remained the same throughout the 5 years since. Refreshing to see, to be honest. We all love a good rivalry and a big grudge match but when thereās no real animosity there, I donāt wanna see them fake it. And these two donāt need to fake beef to generate interest. Theyāre both āmust seeā anyway. And against each other itās just a recipe for something really special. A lot has happened in both menās careers since. And spookily, their records since fighting each other have mirrored each other. Theyāve both gone 6-2 since that brutal battle in Glendale, Arizona. Both have scored 4 finishes and won 2 decisions. Both have beat Michael Chandler in barnburners at Madison Square Garden. And both menās 2 losses in that timeframe were to Khabib Nurmagomedov and Charles Oliveira. Itās fate. They almost had to run it back. Usually Iād say with a fight as epic as their 2018 classic, itās best not to do a rematch because itās never gonna live up to expectations. But with these two, if it doesnāt surpass it theyāll at least come close. āMy respect for Justin Gaethje came from spending over 20 minutes in the Octagon with him, bleeding. Iām a fan of his. Anytime he fights, Iām going to watch. He puts it all on the line every time, and those are the kind of fights I want to be involved in. Weāre always talking about the Lightweight āmost violent fighterā. I said I completed the triangle by beating him, beating Alvarez, beating Chandler, beating Conor. So we run it back for the most violent, call it the BMF, call it whatever you want.ā āI know what Iām going into. Itās a head-on collision and Iām not turning away. Thatās what excites me. He likes to get into a car crash, itās just that now he does it with a seatbelt on. I still see Justin Gaethje. The same guy. Heās doing a few things better but I still see me being the matador and touching this guy.ā - Dustin Poirier Poirierās at that stage in his career now, and heās been honest and vocal about it, where heās only really interested in fights that excite him. There was talk of him fighting Beneil Dariush before this Gaethje rematch came together and Iād have liked to see that fight. But Poirier didnāt seem that arsed about that. Itās a shame and itās a problem thatās plagued the Lightweight division where the established names just wanna keep fighting each other. But at the same time I kind of get it. And itās not like Poirierās avoiding Dariush for an easy option. The Gaethje fight had to be the single most punishing and brutal fight on Poirier of his entire career. For him to want to go back into that again, when heās already 1-0 and could just leave it at that, is nuts in itself. Plus, the way itās all worked out, Iām happier with this rematch and Benny vs Charles anyway. āFighting Dustin Poirier was a great learning experience. Tons of respect for the dude. Heās a dog. And what heās done to Conor McGregor the last couple of fights was super impressive. I always love to see that dude get broken. So this guyās a dog and I know Iām going to have to be perfect. I know that thereās no need for animosity. Weāre two of the best, most violent athletes in the sport. We both love what we do. We both love the carnage and weāre both content with what weāre about to put ourselves through.ā āI know for a fact when Dustin has to step in there with me again, heās going to remember and be constantly analysing that night. He was probably in the most pain of his fucking life. If he doesnāt land the shot in the first round, he knows heās going to have to go through that again.ā - Justin Gaethje To me thereās something more scary about guys like this. These two actually like each other. They respect each other. Yet theyāre talking like this and you know they mean it. Itās not bullshit trash talk to āsell the fightā. It probably will help sell the fight anyway but thatās just a byproduct of them casually talking about inflicting GBH on each other for the sole purpose of just seeing whoās better. There were a fair few doubters of Gaethje going into his fight with Rafael Fiziev on the London card in March. The way he lost to Khabib and Oliveira, I think a lot of people got carried away and unfairly kind of wrote him off as a bum. Or at least were acting like he was shot. For losing to two of the best 155ers ever! And even then he had Oliveira in all kinds of bother early. That Fiziev performance was one of Gaethjeās best though, in my opinion. It wasnāt all plain sailing and it wasnāt looking good for Gaethje early on. But despite Fiziev being the better technical striker and clearly the faster man in there, Gaethje was able to weather the initial storm and really bust him up as the fight went on. It was a cracker of a fight and just one more addition to an ever growing list of bangers Gaethje keeps putting out year on year. And with Poirier coming off submitting Chandler on the MSG card a few months earlier, it just lined up perfectly. āWAR IIā Love it. Poirier was on Helwaniās show recently and said he might try and bust out that hat for 291 fight week. Hope he does. Any homage to the great Marvin Hagler is good in my book. And while the word āwarā is overused in combat sports and few fighters are really worthy of rocking the Hagler hat, Poirier fits that role. And thereās no fight more appropriate to bring out the āWAR IIā version than this one. I donāt have a clue who wins this fight. Itās weird but as invested as I am, I donāt even really care who wins. Itās definitely a fight in that same mould as Gatti vs Ward. The fight itself is the attraction and what youāre invested in, not so much winners and losers. Like is often the case with MMA fans, Iām sure most will pick Poirier to win because he won the first time. But really thinking back to that first fight, Gaethje had him on the fucking brink before Dustin rallied for the finish. Iād never use the word āquitā when it comes to an animal like Poirier but there were a couple of times in that fight when it really looked like he was ready to break. Obviously, ultimately he didnāt. He battled through that and came out on top. Which makes that win even more impressive. Many wouldāve folded, he bit down on the mouthpiece and pulled a TKO win from the jaws of a horrific defeat. But there were little distress signals in there that I donāt think Iāve ever seen from Poirier in any other fight. Whatever happens, I think the obvious move for the winner of this is Conor McGregor. Especially if he beats Chandler but, really, even if he loses that one, fuck it. Itās either Poirier vs McGregor 4 to settle the unfinished business or Gaethje vs McGregor which has been brewing for at least 3 years now. Fuck McGregor though. This fight deserves its own attention without that clown invading the narrative. If you havenāt picked up on it by now, I canāt wait for this fight. My birthdayās just before so thisāll be like a late birthday present for me. Ā Jan Blachowicz vs Alex Pereira is a very interesting co-main event. Pereira making his move up to Light Heavyweight and being thrown straight in the deep end. I canāt even really picture this one. The change of weight class for Pereira plus the complete contrast in styles between him and Big Jan. Not sure what to expect out of it. Blachowicz is 40 years old now. Even by LHW standards, which isnāt so much of a young manās division, it feels like heās coming to the end now. Heās far from shot, he looked decent against Rakic from what I recall, before Rakic got injured. And he managed a draw with Ankalaev last time out, which, whatever. At least it wasnāt a loss. But it wasnāt that long ago he got absolutely schooled by old man Glover and, at 40, it just feels like heās already peaked and itās all gonna be downhill from here. Heās a decent fighter and I quite like him. He seems a likeable big lummox. But heās definitely a guy who I think has benefitted massively from the lack of depth at 205 in recent years. And then again when Jon Jones disappeared for 3 years. Janās a former UFC champion, itāll always be on his CV and nobody can take it away. But he won a vacated title off Dominick Reyes because Jones was off the grid. And that Reyes win hasnāt aged well at all. With that said, Janās probably still good enough, or the division is shallow enough for him to hover around that Top 5 for a bit yet. Pereiraās gonna be coming in with a point to prove in this one. We all know about his Kickboxing accolades by now. It was talked about to death from the time he signed his UFC contract. Heās a beast. A left hand like Thorās hammer. Itās mad how quickly he got so popular but his whole persona coupled with his fighting style makes him easy to be a fan of. The combination of his emotionless, stoic facial expression and his hilarious trolling/stalking of Adesanya is one of my favourite things about him. That image of him seeing Izzyās PokĆ©mon toys on the telly and shaking his head in disgust will never not crack me up. But yeah, the laughing stopped at UFC 287 in April⦠Adesanya finally won one back. After going 0-2 to Pereira in their Kickboxing days and then getting stopped and losing the title to him in the UFC. Izzy finally got a bit of redemption that night in Miami. What a crazy rivalry and series of fights. I think most assumed weād be getting yet another Adesanya vs Pereira fight after that. With them tiedĀ at 1-1Ā in MMA and Pereira still leading 3-1 overall across both sports, it felt inevitable that theyād do it again. But no. Dana immediately seemed disinterested when talking to the media post-fight. And Adesanyaās weirdly been completely shooting that talk down and not even entertaining the possibility of another fight. Heās acting like the rivalry is over now and heās somehow won. Despite still technically being 1-3 down. Seems like heās just happy to get the last laugh in the feud and never wants to see Pereira again. Part of me doesnāt blame him. Part of me thinks itās a bit weak. They didnāt have to do it next but to just shut it down and act like the rivalryās done after getting one win out of four tries, itās a bit odd. But whatever. Maybe Pereira was already planning to move up to 205 anyway. Thereās been talk for ages that he was a massive Middleweight and it mustāve been a rough cut getting down to 185. Heās huge. Just look at him here next to Tyson Fury⦠There was a video knocking around of their interaction and Fury even commented how big Pereira was in person. I think if it wasnāt for the fact Adesanya was already Middleweight champ, Pereira wouldnāt have even bothered with 185 and wouldāve came into the UFC at 205 right off the bat. And Pereiraās gonna be 36 by the time this fight goes down. Time is of the essence. Fuck cutting weight. Of course, Blachowicz already ruined Pereiraās buddy Izzyās attempt at a 205 move a couple of years ago. I barely remember that fight now, to be honest, but I think it ended up coming down to Janās size and grappling advantage winning the decision for him. On paper, youād fully expect him to go for the same tactics here. But while heāll definitely hold a huge advantage in the grappling, I donāt think the size is going to be quite as much of a factor as it was with Izzy. As said above, Pereiraās a unit. And I actually think he might be more durable and maybe even more powerful at 205 because he wonāt have had to drain himself down to 185. If Jan doesnāt get him down, I honestly think Pereira probably sleeps him. But there were big warning signs in the first UFC fight with Adesanya when it comes to Pereiraās lack of grappling. And if Adesanya was able to exploit that for spells, a bigger and more effective grappler like Jan will too. I hope Pereira wins in spectacular fashion. And I like Jan a lot. 205 badly needs some excitement though and thereās a ready made story there with current champ Jamahal Hill retiring Pereiraās friend/mentor Glover Teixeira a few months back. Ā Derrick Lewis vs Marcos Rogerio De Lima then. A much needed step down in competition for the āBlack Beastā this. But, as much as it saddens me to say it, Iām still not confident he wins. Iād think he should, I donāt particularly rate De Lima, but I donāt know with Lewis anymore. I just donāt know. Love the bloke. So many great memories. Most of them not even in the fights themselves. Obviously there are some. The mental comeback KO against Volkov stands out. As does him obliterating wifebeater Travis Browne and the uppercut of doom against Curtis Blaydes. But most of the best moments from Big Derrick came during post-fight interviews or media scrums. The manās hilarious and so effortlessly cool and likeable. In the cage Iāve always felt like heās a weird mix of being overrated by some but often underrated as just a ācharacterā with no skills. Heās done well for himself though. But I think itās been apparent, and became more apparent in recent fights, where his ceiling is in the division. And now at 38, itās looking like heās fading away. Heās been finished in his last 3 fights and got totally ragdolled before being submitted by Sergey Spivac in his last fight in February. Embarrassingly one sided. De Limaās also 38 but he really hasnāt taken the punishment Lewis has. Like I said, I donāt think much of him. Heās your typical Heavyweight slug. Not pretty to watch and completely nondescript as a personality. But heās won 3 of his last 4 and finished both Ben Rothwell and Andrei Arlovski in a round apiece. Not hugely impressive wins these days but itās not a stretch to imagine him beating Lewis on Lewisā current shaky form. Really fucking hope Iām wrong and Lewis flattens him. De Lima is the type of guy Lewis usually does beat. But yeah, I donāt know anymore. Ā Tony Ferguson vs Bobby Green is just kind of sad to me at this stage. This wouldāve probably been a tremendous fight between say 2015-2019. In 2023 not so much. Iām at the point now with Ferguson where Iāve just got zero faith or confidence in him anymore. I just donāt think thereās anything left. He was genuinely one of the top Lightweights in the world for a few years there. Thereās good reason why that doomed Khabib fight was so anticipated. I got sucked in big time and probably gave Ferguson a better chance than he really had. Looking back, Khabib most likely was always winning that one. But itās a fucking travesty it never happened. Thatās always gonna be one of the biggest āones that got awayā for me. It was the Fedor vs Cro Cop of 155 for me and the window closed on it. Now here we sit a few years later and Khabibās retired and Fergusonās shot. Sometimes one image just sums up a fighterās decline better than a million words could. This is that image when it comes to Tony Ferguson. The wheels had already come off by the time Michael Chandler kicked his face off but when people think back to Tonyās decline in the future, this is the first thing thatās gonna spring to mind. Just a disgusting knockout. Weāre now at the point where heās lost his last 5 fights in a row and he looked bad in all of them. The horrific beating he took off Gaethje in 2020 seemed to be the breaking point and itās been loss after loss ever since. With hindsight, Fergusonās decline was always gonna be a bad one. The way he fought always relied heavily on his durability and toughness and his willingness to just outlast guys and break them through sheer refusal to go away. He actually got a longer run of success out of it than he probably shouldāve but itās been rough watching him of late. Bobby Green probably wrecks him, to be honest. Greenās a good fighter and heās had some nights where he was better than good. But heās not a guy Iād have picked to beat prime Ferguson. The timing massively favours him here though. Iām convinced that if Paddy Pimblett was healthy, weād be seeing them feed Fergusonās carcass to him on the London show a week before this card. Thankfully that tubby cuntās knackered his ankle and weāve been spared that shit. Iāve soured on Green lately but Iād rather him than Paddy. Feels like this is gonna be the real downer of the card. Just got a bad feeling about Ferguson. Even here, heās fresh off getting arrested for a DUI in early May. Yet theyāre wheeling him out for another twatting. Ā Michael Chiesa vs Kevin Holland is a nice matchup to kick off the main card. I like it. Chiesa was all set to fight Li Jingliang at UFC 287 in April but āThe Leechā pulled out. Surprised itās taken so long for Chiesa to get another fight booked but Iām not surprised itās Holland who stepped up. Chiesaās had a long layoff coming into this one. We last saw him in November 2021, losing a decision to Sean Brady. He got submitted by Vicente Luque before that as well so maybe he chose to take a break and recharge. He was on a pretty strong run before those losses, in fairness. He beat the shells of Carlos Condit and Diego Sanchez, which is whatever. But he also beat Rafael Dos Anjos and Neil Magny, which is legit. Donāt know what to expect out of him here though. Especially against someone like Holland whoās pretty active. He fought at 287 himself and knocked out Santiago Ponzinibbio that night. He also had that awesome fight with Wonderboy in December before that. The flaws in Hollandās game are common knowledge now. The wrestling is his biggest problem. So a strong grappler like Chiesa should really give him fits. But a near 2 year layoff at 35 years old is a bit odd. Should be a good fight to watch though. Ā Trevin Giles vs Gabriel Bonfim will be worth checking out. Iām neither here nor there Giles. Heās a former copper, 16-4 record and coming off a couple of decision wins over Louis Cosce and Preston Parsons. He does have some more notable wins from earlier on in his career over the likes of Brendan Allen, Ryan Spann, James Krause and Roman Dolidze. But nothing has stood out about him recently. His fights just come and go. Bonfim is why you wanna be tuning in for this one. Him and his brother Ismael both made their Octagon debuts at UFC 283 in Brazil in January and, for me, they stole the show. Ismael with his big flying knee KO was the main highlight reel moment but Gabrielās debut wasnāt too shabby either⦠He caught Mounir Lazzez in a guillotine choke and had him tapping just 49 seconds into the first round! Couldnāt ask for a much better introduction to the big leagues. Itās not like Lazzez is anything special but heās also not a guy youād expect to be getting finished in under a minute either. Bonfim just ran right over him. Heās perfect in his career so far as well. He turns 26 a few weeks after this fight and heās undefeatedĀ at 14-0, all finishes and was LFA champ before the UFC snatched him up. Looking forward to seeing more of him and his brother. Ā CJ Vergara vs Vinicius Salvador is a fight I probably wouldnāt have been that fussed about before seeing Vergaraās last fight. He went up against Daniel Lacerda on the San Antonio card in March and they tore the house down. It was just a throwaway prelim that I donāt think anyone was expecting that much from but they had one of the best fights of the year so far. A round and a half of utter mayhem. They got FOTN and it was well deserved. The Flyweights deserve more love, more spotlight and higher billing on the Fight Nights. They nearly always deliver. Vergara coming back from that disastrous opening round to finish Lacerda was wild. Salvador fought the same night and lost on points to Victor Altamirano. Canāt say I really remember him but whatever. Iāll give it a look for Vergara after that last fight. Ā Roman Kopylov vs Claudio Ribeiro. Decent. Iāve been indifferent to Kopylov since he signed with the UFC a few years back but heās finished Alessio Di Chirico and Punahele Soriano in his last two fights. Maybe heās turned a corner. The Soriano fight in January was his best showing in the UFC to date by far. I remember some particularly nasty body kicks that just crumbled Soriano, whoās usually a durable bastard. There was no gritting the teeth and toughing that shit out though. Kopylovās kicks just sapped the life out of him. Ribeiro seems the type who will bring out the best of him as well and force an action fight. Heās 10-3 with 9 knockouts, 8 in the first round. He made his UFC debut in January against fellow KO artist Abdul Razak Alhassan and got stopped in the second round. Ā Jake Matthews vs Darrius Flowers. Not sure. Matthews blows hot and cold big time. Heāll look good one fight, really flat the next. I think the fact he was so young when he came into the UFC made people just think that age was on his side and heād get there eventually. Heās still only 28 now, which is mad when you think about how long it feels like heās been around. Made his UFC debut in 2014! The prospect tag is long gone at this point though. Heās now an 11 year veteran with 24 fights under his belt. And still inconsistent as fuck. He had a really strong performance on the Singapore card last year when he knocked out Andre Fialho but then reverted to form and got beat by Matthew Semelsberger last time out. Itās just not panning out for him. He was meant to face Miguel Baeza here but Baeza is out. In steps Octagon newcomer Flowers. Heās also 28 and has a record of 12-5-1 with 9 finishes. Heās coming off a quick TKO win on DWCS last August. Ā Matthew Semelsberger vs Uros Medic. Might be alright. Semelsberger is usually in entertaining fights. Heās had mixed results in the UFC but, win or lose, I donāt recall him being boring at any point. Heās got knockout wins over Jason Witt and Martin Sano Jr in 15 and 16 seconds respectively, beat Jake Matthews on points, lost a decent split decision to Jeremiah Wells in his last fight. He comes to scrap. Itās all pretty low level stuff but at least heās not dull. We havenāt seen Medic for over a year now, he got a TKO win over Omar Morales in May last year and has been inactive since. Heās 8-1 with the only loss coming against Jalin Turner, which isnāt bad. All his wins came inside the distance. Has the makings of a fun filler fight. Ā Miranda Maverick vs Priscila Cachoeira isnāt setting the world alight. It was originally Cachoeira against Joanne Wood which wasnāt much better but at least it had a bit of a babyface vs heel element to it. I was hoping Wood would chin her. Sheās out, Maverickās in and Iām completely indifferent to it now. Iād still rather Maverick win though. Cachoeiraās a twat. Iāve said before, Iāve rooted against her ever since she blatantly and deliberately tried to gouge Gillian Robertsonās eye out to escape a submission, then brushed it off and acted like it was a mistake. As a fighter sheās not very good but Iāll admit sheās not usually boring either. Maverick should beat her but Iām not exactly confident she does. Sheās 11-5 and coming off a fairly clear cut decision loss to Jasmine Jasudavicius at UFC 289 in June. Iāve been saying for a while that I thought she had a bit of potential, not champion level but decent. That Jasudavicius made me rethink that though. Sheās just turned 26 so in theory sheās got some time. But it seems like sheās going nowhere. Like I say though, she really should be winning this. If she canāt beat Cachoeira, thereās no hope for her. Ā WAR II Edited July 29 by wandshogun09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev2050 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Need to get involved in some of the hype for this. I used to watch the countdowns and embedded series all the time, but haven't done for a long time, but this card is amazing!Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 16 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 16 (edited) Thereās been a lot of speculation that with Jamahal Hill vacating the Light Heavyweight belt, they might make Blachowicz vs Pereira a title fight on this card. Well, I donāt know if this is a mistake but itās doing the rounds⦠Edit - oh well it was a nice thought. Ā Ā Edited July 16 by wandshogun09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TildeGuy~! Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) There was rumours yesterday Costa pulled out of this event to fight Chimaev. Edited July 18 by TildeGuy~! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 20 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 20 Yep. On 6/3/2023 at 2:02 AM, wandshogun09 said: Paulo Costa vs Ikram Aliskerov is ***WANDāS ONE TO WATCH***Ā on this card but, and I donāt wanna jinx it, it does have the feel of a fight destined to not actually happen.Ā Obviously what weāre getting now (Costa vs Khamzat) is better. And this card is strong enough that it doesnāt suffer too much losing this fight. But still, it was that barmy sounding fight in the middle of the main card that I was really looking forward to. Oh well.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 28 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 28 This is fucking tomorrow!Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted July 28 Paid Members Share Posted July 28 Come on!!!! Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce85 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Looking forward to this now. Really stacked card! Think I went Gaethje in the poll but not really convinced on that pick, really could go either way. Should be a hell of a fight though! Gone for Pereira, think he will get the ko late in the first. Still surprised they didnāt slap the interim title on this. Got to assume they have something else in mind.Ā Ā Do we think this could be Tonyās last fight? Ā Another bad loss here surely singles the end?Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members WeeAl Posted July 28 Paid Members Share Posted July 28 Nah, Tony is going to do a Bigfoot Silva.Ā He was on the other day about winning five more fights and fighting for a title. Obviously not going to happen, but it's the talk of a man that's not going to be able to walk away whenever it looks time/past time that he should.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted July 28 Paid Members Share Posted July 28 Wait, what?! Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 28 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 28 (edited) Still gonna try to squeeze a rewatch of Poirier vs Gaethje 1 in later when the kids are in bed. But I reviewed it a few years ago in that āTop 25 Fights of 2010-19ā thread on here. I had it as the 11th best fight of the last decade apparently. Here it is if youāre interested⦠On 1/24/2020 at 9:38 PM, wandshogun09 said: #11 - Dustin Poirier vs Justin Gaethje - UFC Fight Night - Apr 18th 2018 This one is still fairly fresh in the memory but, fuck it, Iāll happily watch it again. This was another fight with no backstory to speak of. Just a fun fight for the sake of a fun fight. Fine by me. It was just one of those matchups where you can chuck them on as a Fight Night headliner and you know itās going to be at worst entertaining and at best a FOTY candidate. Poirier at this time was on a hot streak. Heād been through some rough patches at Featherweight earlier in his career. He lost a fantastic fight against Korean Zombie in 2012 (that one just narrowly missed this countdown) and, of course, he got slept by Conor McGregor in 2014. He moved up to Lightweight after the McGregor loss and put some nice wins together. But when Michael Johnson sparked him in a round in 2016, I think everyone kind of wrote Poirier off as far as being a player in the division went. He came back strong though and in 2017 he beat Jim Miller, had a great fight with Eddie Alvarez that ended in a No Contest but most felt Poirier was winning, then he beat Anthony Pettis. All really good fights as well. He was back on track heading into 2018. For Gaethje, this was his first fight since suffering his first loss against Eddie Alvarez in that slobberknocker I covered above. Heād gone 18-0 before that, 16 finishes, WSOF champ etc. And despite being 1-1 in the UFC at this point, he was 2-for-2 for legit FOTY contenders in 2017. Heād made quite an impression. This was his chance to redeem himself against another top contender. Dustin Poirier vs Justin Gaethje UFC Fight Night: Poirier vs GaethjeĀ April 18th 2018 Glendale, Arizona Tyron Woodley and Michael Bisping are both predicting a Poirier win during the pre-fight analysis. Anik, Cormier and Cruz are commentating. āIām coming to beat his ass and heās coming to do the same. The fans are in for a treat. Buckle up, enjoy the ride.ā - Dustin Poirier Arizona born Gaethje is getting the big hometown boy reaction during his walkout. Round 1:Ā Well there were questions going in about how Gaethje would look coming off his first loss. Would it make him less aggressive at all? Within seconds thatās answered and itās a resounding ānoā. Heās coming right at Poirier from the off and landing those horrible Tong Po leg kicks. Poirier is moving around and landing the cleaner punches though. Heās still eating the leg kicks but heās making Gaethje pay with combinations every time. Heās clearly the better striker technically but Gaethje makes up for that by being a bloody nutcase. Sweet combo from Poirier and heās starting to pick Gaethje apart now. But Gaethje is firing back. Poirier is looking sharp as fuck but Gaethje keeps whipping in those inside leg kicks and you just know theyāre money in the bank if the fight goes long. āThis is what we expected. These guys are fighting in a phone booth. Poirierās gonna have to get some respect and get Justin moving back a little bit.ā - Daniel Cormier Hard shots from Poirier late in the round. Gaethje is stupid tough but Poirier is landing a LOT here. Poirier 10-9. Gaethje is asking his corner who won that round and Trevor Wittman screeches āYOU DID!ā In his own little annoying Trevor Wittman way. He didnāt win the round though. Wittman is a big filthy high pitched voice having fibber. Round 2:Ā Picking up right where they left off. Poirier busting him up with his boxing and his body kicks and Gaethje is just walking through it and blasting kicks at his legs. And itās starting to pay off now. Poirier is visibly feeling it now. He canāt mask it like he did earlier. Iām wincing myself at some of them.Ā And to piss in his wounds, Gaethje pokes him in the eye. Both landing punches. And Gaethje is getting through more now than he was earlier. Probably because all those leg kicks have hindered Poirierās movement. Theyāre both fucking going for it! Poirier has actually starting going for takedowns. His leg must be trashed. Gaethje keeps it standing, lands a few hard shots and busts out a rolling thunder kick thingy at the buzzer... Maniac. Close round. Both landed a lot. I felt like Gaethje took it 10-9 though. Poirier looks in agony as they await the start of the third round. And Gaethje is on the opposite side grinning from ear to ear and trying to amp the crowd up more. Heās loving life. Must be fucking demoralising fighting someone like that. You can barely stand and youāve dished out about a zillion punches in 10 minutes. You get off the stool, look across the cage and the mad twatās having the time of his life. Round 3:Ā Gaethje bringing it again. He just refuses to fuck off for even a second. Poirier actually gets a takedown finally but Gaethje pops right back up. The pressure from Gaethje is insane. He lands a hard right that makes Poirier stumble... He definitely looks troubled by it and Gaethje follows up with a hard elbow in close against the fence. Gaethje has him against the cage and is landing uppercuts and kneeing the already smashed up legs. God this is turning into a right miserable fight for Poirier. MoreĀ leg kicks.Ā Do you reckon Gaethje watched Karate Kid 3 much growing up? āIf a man canāt stand he canāt fight.ā - Terry The Bastard Silver Gaethjeās butchering Poirierās legs. Iām actually starting to feel sorry for Poirier. And weāre still only at the halfway point of the fight. Heās now making feeble attempts to grab Gaethjeās legs for some kind of weak takedown. He wants no more of them leg kicks and I donāt blame him one bit. Poirier gets poked in the eye again. Christ almighty. This is a living hell for poor Dustin. Herb Dean docks a point from Gaethje but I donāt think thatās much consolation at this point. Poirier is suffering. The doctor checks him and Poirier says heās OK. They fight on and now Poirier pokes Gaethje in the eye as the round ends. 9-9 with the point deduction. Maybe 9-8 Gaethje though, to be honest. Both look worse for wear in between rounds. Round 4:Ā They both seem to have an urgency about them here and almost right away Poirier fucking stuns him with a straight left! Gaethjeās legs are all over the place and Poirier follows up with a flurry of punches and finally puts Gaethje down... Mental. Herb Dean has seen enough and waves it off. Gaethje didnāt go out but I thought it was a good stoppage. He looked fucked and it was most likely only going to get worse. Herb saved him. Incredible comeback from Poirier. Winner - Dustin Poirier by TKO. RoundĀ 4 - 0:33. Nutty fight. Poirier showed a lot about what kind of fighter and how tough of a man he really is here. It felt like he was heading to getting stopped all through those 2nd and 3rd rounds. His leg was done, his vision was impaired from the eye pokes, heād been hurt with punches. And he had the perfect chance at the end of the 3rd to get out of the fight when the doctor was checking on him. All he had to do was keep squinting the eye and not responding to his questions. If he wanted a way out, he was handed it. But he went beyond that mental barrier and came out and blitzed Gaethje at the start of the next round. This was a real turning point for Poirier, in my opinion. Heād kind of choked in the big fights before this. This win felt like heād turned a corner as a fighter and it ultimately set him up for those big Holloway and Khabib fights in 2019. Iāve seen a few suggestions online that these two rematch while the whole Khabib,Ā Ferguson, McGregor, Masvidal, Diaz saga plays out this year. Wouldnāt be against that at all. I think McGregor vs Gaethje would be the better fight to make but Iād certainly not turn my nose up at Poirier vs Gaethje 2.Ā Ā Edited July 28 by wandshogun09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted July 28 Paid Members Share Posted July 28 5 hours ago, WeeAl said: Nah, Tony is going to do a Bigfoot Silva.Ā Ā Yeah, talk of barely hitting his prime is typical Ferguson delusion. It's crazy to think where he's fallen from. Anyone fancy him against Green? Ferguson is a huge underdog, and Bobby Green appears on a skid himself, just shows how far Ferguson's stock has dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 28 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 28 Yeah Greenās decent but heās a guy Iād have expected prime Tony Ferguson to handle. Now Iām fully expecting Ferguson to get knocked out. Just zero confidence in him at this point. In other news, Michel Pereira came in 3lbs over the weight limit and itās unknown whether the fight with Wonderboy is going ahead.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TildeGuy~! Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 41 minutes ago, wandshogun09 said: In other news, Michel Pereira came in 3lbs over the weight limit and itās unknown whether the fight with Wonderboy is going ahead.Ā Ah bollocks, Iāve been looking forward to that fight ever since it was announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 The main card has Card Of The Year written all over it. In the same way that Poirier/Gaethje has a 0.1% chance of being disappointing, I think the same can be said about Ferguson/Green. That fight is super interesting. Its guaranteed to be a standup fight for the duration, so it will be really interesting to see if Tony can outclass Green, or will Green dominate an over the hill Tony, or will it be a really competitve fight with a close decision. Really looking forward to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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