Rey_Piste Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I thought part of the reason that UFC bought WEC and Strikeforce, was to use them as feeder promotions to the main roster. Instead both promotions got shut down and absorbed into the main company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted February 1, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 1, 2016 I'm not sure about Strikeforce, but WEC was definitely bought with the intention of absorbing the lighter divisions into the UFC due to the company growing. They never had a featherweight/Bathamweight division at the time. WEC was always going to fold. Strikeforce though, that could have worked possibly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted February 1, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 1, 2016 couple of late thoughts:  * i haven't read any of the Sage backlash stuff but i expected it. I wouldn't say it was a panic tap, im 100% certain that Sage Northcutt has found himself being choked on thousands of occasions, it's more likely down to the fact that he was knackered and saw it as a way out. It's an experience thing, it looks bad and fans/fellow fans will never let you forget it but that's what i put it down too. I think it became pretty apparent early in the fight that Sage was not having his way strength wise Barbarena, he wasn't pushing him around the way he's probably been used too, his gas tank drained pretty quickly after a gruelling first round.  * Lots of people taking pleasure in Bader getting beaten too, ha! I picked Bader for the upset and i'd pick him again if they fought again but he simply found himself in probably the worst position you could ever find yourself in against Johnson. T'was all she wrote.  * Ben Rothwell though! that was just shocking. Rothwell's unorthodox style is one of biggest traits. Barnett seemed a little thrown off by Rothwell's weird as fuck stance, and Rothwell did a great job of nullifying any kind of grappling early on. I'd wager that not one bet was laid down on Rothwell winning that fight by submission though, that's just a huge feather in his cap. Ben Rothwell is a beast. Submission of the year right there.  He just needs to stay a little more active now, i found it weird that they kept referencing the Brandon Vera fight as being a part of his 3 fight streak but it's right! Rothwell's only fought 4 times in 3 years, feels like he's in there way more often than that. ** edit i forgot about his testosterone ban ** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted February 4, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 4, 2016 Means is out. Popped for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Â Nah, fuck that. Â If you're good enough to accept the contract and all the benefits of the hype that the UFC hand you, then you're good enough to take the pelters when you lose in such a fashion. Â I agree will your full post David apart from the bit above. Â When was the last time you saw fellow professionals attack a fighter from a loss with such venom? Â This viciousness is down to his age, jealously of the hype he's received, and the spot that's he got so soon in his career. Â Its not normal this response and he should receive the same respect as any other fighter who has the balls to step in that cage. Â Â Respect? This sport is fuck all to do with respect. Respect doesn't sell tickets or PPV's. Â Bottom line is, Northcutt is well paid, and he's in the public eye. Like any other well-paid athletes he'll get scrutinised and mocked when he loses, it happens. Â The same will happen to McGregor when he eventually loses. Will you be saying that he shouldn't get pelters? It comes with the territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted February 4, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 4, 2016   Respect? This sport is fuck all to do with respect. Respect doesn't sell tickets or PPV's.  Bottom line is, Northcutt is well paid, and he's in the public eye. Like any other well-paid athletes he'll get scrutinised and mocked when he loses, it happens.  The same will happen to McGregor when he eventually loses. Will you be saying that he shouldn't get pelters? It comes with the territory.   Fuck me. David, you don't half swing back and forth with mma. "respect doesns't sell tickets"? What's that got to do with this at all?  You really must be blind if you think that the abuse that Northcutt received was normal levels of scrutiny. He was absolutely slaughtered because of genuine jealously. It was petty, pathetic and way above anything I've witnessed before.  Are you really comparing Mcgregor and Northcutt here too? Northcutt hasn't said a bad word about anyone, has been nothing but professional, and has basically called everyone sir.  Mcrgregor on the other hand would deserve the shit he would get if he loses as he's slaughtered almost everyone who has entered the cage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members herbie747 Posted February 4, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 4, 2016 Means is out - busted by USADA. Â http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/2/3/10910962/tim-means-flagged-for-potential-usada-violation-out-of-bout-against Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted February 4, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 4, 2016 I agree that the Northcutt backlash was harsh, just a young, talented kid going about his business. I don't think he deserved it. From fans online, i expect it (because the internet is a cesspit afterall) but from fellow professionals it's a little harsh. What exactly did he do the offend the MMA community so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey_Piste Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 The Gracie breakdown of the Northcutt sub and Barnett getting subbed shows that both are not fluke wins. Add in the reports of Sage having a throat infection, there are a lot of people who are giving him unfair shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016    Respect? This sport is fuck all to do with respect. Respect doesn't sell tickets or PPV's.  Bottom line is, Northcutt is well paid, and he's in the public eye. Like any other well-paid athletes he'll get scrutinised and mocked when he loses, it happens.  The same will happen to McGregor when he eventually loses. Will you be saying that he shouldn't get pelters? It comes with the territory.   Fuck me. David, you don't half swing back and forth with mma. "respect doesns't sell tickets"? What's that got to do with this at all?  You really must be blind if you think that the abuse that Northcutt received was normal levels of scrutiny. He was absolutely slaughtered because of genuine jealously. It was petty, pathetic and way above anything I've witnessed before.  Are you really comparing Mcgregor and Northcutt here too? Northcutt hasn't said a bad word about anyone, has been nothing but professional, and has basically called everyone sir.  Mcrgregor on the other hand would deserve the shit he would get if he loses as he's slaughtered almost everyone who has entered the cage.   It's true though, respect doesn't sell tickets! Aren't we always saying that most fighters don't push themselves enough? They don't say enough? Don't talk enough shit?  It's got fuck all to do with jealousy in reality, and everything to do with guys angling for a fight with him and getting themselves over. We've been told that these fake feud are what the UFC want to see, so we have guys trying to push their nonsense all over the place now.  Look at the guys who had their Twitter feeds quoted on MMA sites. Most of them are either 155lbs, or 170lbs, which is where Northcutt competes.  You can't have Dana say on more than a few occasions that he wants guys who are vocal, put guys who talk into the money fights and then expect lower card fighters to be respectful and pipe down when there's a chance for some coverage.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted February 4, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 4, 2016 And what about the women who slammed him too? I guess they're angling for a fight with him as well?  Of course respect doesn't sell tickets, but selling tickets has got fuck all do with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Means is out - busted by USADA.  http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/2/3/10910962/tim-means-flagged-for-potential-usada-violation-out-of-bout-against That's actually a good sign.  It shows that the new procedures are doing their job. I would be concerned if fighters weren't getting busted during this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted February 4, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 4, 2016       Respect? This sport is fuck all to do with respect. Respect doesn't sell tickets or PPV's.  Bottom line is, Northcutt is well paid, and he's in the public eye. Like any other well-paid athletes he'll get scrutinised and mocked when he loses, it happens.  The same will happen to McGregor when he eventually loses. Will you be saying that he shouldn't get pelters? It comes with the territory.  Fuck me. David, you don't half swing back and forth with mma. "respect doesns't sell tickets"? What's that got to do with this at all?  You really must be blind if you think that the abuse that Northcutt received was normal levels of scrutiny. He was absolutely slaughtered because of genuine jealously. It was petty, pathetic and way above anything I've witnessed before.  Are you really comparing Mcgregor and Northcutt here too? Northcutt hasn't said a bad word about anyone, has been nothing but professional, and has basically called everyone sir.  Mcrgregor on the other hand would deserve the shit he would get if he loses as he's slaughtered almost everyone who has entered the cage. It's true though, respect doesn't sell tickets! Aren't we always saying that most fighters don't push themselves enough? They don't say enough? Don't talk enough shit?  It's got fuck all to do with jealousy in reality, and everything to do with guys angling for a fight with him and getting themselves over. We've been told that these fake feud are what the UFC want to see, so we have guys trying to push their nonsense all over the place now.  Look at the guys who had their Twitter feeds quoted on MMA sites. Most of them are either 155lbs, or 170lbs, which is where Northcutt competes.  You can't have Dana say on more than a few occasions that he wants guys who are vocal, put guys who talk into the money fights and then expect lower card fighters to be respectful and pipe down when there's a chance for some coverage.. Whilst i understand what your saying, that doesn't really apply to this situation. Do you think by slagging off an unranked fighter who'd just lost that Tony Ferguson was angling for a fight with Sage Northcutt? or Lorenz Larkin? Ben Askren? Nope seems like they took total pleasure in seeing a guy who may have rightly or wrongly been gifted a position fall flat on his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TildeGuy~! Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Alex Oliveira looks set to replace Tim Means in the main event  Cowboy Vs. Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted February 4, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 4, 2016 I like it, Oliveira wild too, should be a fun fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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