SuperJohnny Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 This popped up on The Sabotage Times Facebook page today. Quite an interesting read ... Â Forget Heinz Baked Beans, George Formby and JJB Sports, if Wigan wants to look cool it should start telling how, with only a snake pit and a brutal form of wrestling, they gave the world Mixed Martial Arts. Â Â The conventional wisdom: the British don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted March 7, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 I heard it was Hogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted March 7, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 What a great read. Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Teedy Kay Posted March 7, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted March 7, 2011 Try and find a documentary called "Catch: The Hold Not Taken" Â A cracking little watch that goes into pretty much everything mentioned above with some great interviews from those that trained either at the Snake Pit itself, or just in the Lancashire Style of Catch. Â I found a copy in HMV in Reading, not sure if it's readily available though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannRead Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Great read. Catch is something I personally believe should be kept alive and in case anyone didn't know is obviously the basis behind 'The Catch Division' in EVE. Â Â For further info please check http://www.riverhorse.tv/catch/index.htm which is where you can also purchase the DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RepoMan Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 How about adding to the discussion instead of trying to shill your shit? Â Great article in the original post btw. Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 How come we stopped doing wrestling in Britain? When did they stop doing it in schools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannRead Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 How about adding to the discussion  I did by giving my opinion and pointing out how the topic (that being catch) has influenced me.  instead of trying to shill your shit?  At what point did I shill any of my 'shit' as you put it? I'm nothing to do with that DVD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiffy Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Fucking cool read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Lucille Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 It's really sad; pretty much every book you read by a wrestler who knew how to shoot has various mentions about Wigan, the Snake Pit, and plenty of speculation about how Lancashire wrestling produced possibly the best hookers in the business. Yet no one in this country has a clue any of it even existed. Â I happened to be watching that Alex Reid thing a while back, where he was training for his big fight, and he was training out in California somewhere with Josh Barnett. Barnett was talking up how awesome and wonderful the English history of catching is, and how that's what he learns and teaches, and this Reid cunt had this stupid blank grin on his face, going "oh, right... er, nah, what's that then...?" Josh Barnett looked appalled. Â Alex Reid didn't bother asking any more questions about it, oddly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted March 8, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted March 8, 2011 Must admit, I have no interest in becoming an MMA fighter (glass jaw, bad stamina, probably too old now), but if I did, this article would have influenced me into seeking out catch-wrestling trainers, instead of looking for BJJ dojos - not just for cultural purposes, but also because in a sport where everyone's doing the same thing, surely there's an advantage to doing something different? I had that in fencing - did pretty well, and I think part of it was because I was left-handed, and the majority of fencers, who are right-handed, aren't used to dealing with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted March 9, 2011 Moderators Share Posted March 9, 2011 So has anyone read the book that this is from? Â I was thinking about picking it up. I found this favourable review whilst considering it. Â Will probably check the library/ask them to order it in first, but depending on what they say I reckon I may just suck it and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donedude Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 i train in catch, judo and bjj I find they go well together. My grandfather was telling me it was the popularity of judo that helped kill catch as it was seen as a "common miners sport". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted March 16, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 Verne Gagne invented MMA during a booking meeting during one of those empty arena PPV's during the latter part of the last century. Greg Gagne and his dad Verne pitched the idea around 1992 with a wrestling committee where VG was on the board of USA Wrestling in Las Vegas to start a new type of wrestling which would be the Martial Arts. Randy Couture and Chuck Liddell were sat in the front audience and brought up this idea to Dana White, where White invented the UFC cause of this. This is a well known fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted March 16, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 Moot point. Hulk Hogan invented MMA, Wigan AND Verne Gagne. Â And on the same day he still had time to persuade Brett Hart to drop the second "T" from his name (which at Tezzer's suggestion he kindly donated to Hulk's buddy Mr T who up until that point had simply been called "Mr"), convinced Jim Duggan that "Hacksaw" was a better nickname than "Lump hammer", and successfully petitioned Jim Crockett to "have a look at this Flair kid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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