Richie Freebird Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 Trawling youtube due to boredom I came across a short video mini documentary about the Korean Self defence martial art Hapkido. During the video there are various ridiculously over sold flips trips and throws, and I was pleasantly surprised to see a couple of flying heads-scissors and snapmares right out of the pro wrestling playbook! Â Â Again, probably not worthy of muuuuch discussion, but I was entertained enough to share it with my fellow UKFF
Paid Members Carbomb Posted January 21, 2011 Paid Members Posted January 21, 2011 There's a Figure-Four type move in Judo, although it's probably closer to a Sharpshooter in terms of how you position the legs over the knee. Not sure what it's called, though.
Loki Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 I did a bit of Hapkido a few years ago, well it was called Sul Ki Do but it was essentially the same thing. Got to green belt in it before I moved away from the dojang. Â They have a lot of really cool armbar-style locks and throws, as you see in that slightly-overplayed video. They also have some unusual emphasis on defence against multiple opponents, and what I can only describe as "finishers" - my favourite being a wristlock into a hiptoss throw that ends with you shattering the bones in your opponents forearm by bracing it against the floor and striking the palm. Â The other cool thing they do is pressure point work, something you see in kung fu movies but I can attest that it really fucking hurts. Â All in all, a very cool martial arts, the best I've tried, that I would love to have done to black belt, but it's hard to find a dojang. Â I'm surprised it hasn't found its way into MMA more, as the takedowns from striking kicks are much better than the ones I've seen in UFC.
Flammable D Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 I went to one Jitsu class, and the warm-up was basically all the advanced students bumping like crazy.
Richie Freebird Posted January 21, 2011 Author Posted January 21, 2011 Sounds really intrestling Loki. Did they have you overselling the moves when practicing like in the video or is that purely for demonstration to outsiders of the art? I ask because I saw the Hapkido episode (well, all of the episodes!) of the brilliant documentary series
Moderators PowerButchi Posted January 21, 2011 Moderators Posted January 21, 2011 Here's the Martial Art I specialise in. It could do with being used far more in Pro Wrestling, and all walks of daily life. Â
Loki Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 Well, two things. Firstly, if someone twists your wrist in the right way, you're going over. Secondly, we used to practice breakfalls and you minimise the damage by landing in the correct position (similar to taking a bump properly in wrestling) so there's a bit of people getting themselves up in the air to get a proper breakfall. Anyone who's done some MMA or jitsu training has probably done this as well. Â But, no, that stuff was over-emphasised. If you want to do well in a grading though, you have to put in that sort of energy as Korean martial arts emphasise crispness and energy in formal demonstrations of the art. Â Being British, or course, I wasn't practicing in a well-padded dojang like that, I was doing it onto a 1970s gymnastics mat on a hard floor so if I had jumped that high I'd probably never have got up again.
Richie Freebird Posted January 21, 2011 Author Posted January 21, 2011 Here's the Martial Art I specialise in. It could do with being used far more in Pro Wrestling, and all walks of daily life.  That half nelson into a backbreaker rounded off with a chop to the neck is fucking ace! Pro Wrestling matches wouldn't last very long with those kind of techniques.
Paid Members CleetusVanDamme Posted January 21, 2011 Paid Members Posted January 21, 2011 *Inevitable "CVD brings up Ernest Miller" post* Â Â I believe a few wrestling techniques are incorporated into Cat-Bo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWLKRD2LzzU Â Â Never gets old.. Â Â Edit. I may have to take up SAFTA, anyone with a world class moustache like that must know how to fight.
Paid Members Surf Digby Posted January 22, 2011 Paid Members Posted January 22, 2011 I did Hapkido for a few years, and yes there are snapmare type throws, and the good old Britwres wristlock is in there. I'm pretty sure I never saw anyone do a flying headscissors during that time though. Â Hapkido the film is pretty good for it's time, and it's aged reasonably well. Chi Hon Choi (The "father of modern Hapkido") is in Game Of Death. Phillip Rhee shows off his Hapkido skills in the Best of the Best films (mostly in number 2). Â Overall, I liked Hapkido a lot. Flash kicks, joint locks and takedowns, and because it was fashionable at the time, we did some kali stick drills too. Â There's an Indian martial art I saw a documentary on once that had snapmares in, and some interesting arm and wrist locks that can be easily incorporated into chain wrestling.
Richie Freebird Posted January 22, 2011 Author Posted January 22, 2011 I never saw anyone do a flying headscissors during that time though. Â They sure as fuck do them in that video though eh! Â Thanks for the analysis of the Hapkido film mate, I
Ghostface1982 Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 Anyone who's done some MMA or jitsu training has probably done this as well. Indeed, If you're drilling throws it's a good idea to at least slightly know how to break your own fall. Especially if it's some crazy Judo throw with the full weight of another bloke landing on you.
Jimmy_kahoona Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 like most martial arts everything is moderated to a certain key move, so if the guys does a right cross then you can block, twist and flip him. Which looks great in a demonstration where your showing the artistic side of blocking a right cross BUT when you have a drunk prick out his tits on coke probably the last thing he`ll do is tell you hes going to throw a right cross.
darepool Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 Whilst Hapkido looks very fancy I dare say 90% of it is not practical in a real world encounter. This is the same with most martial arts. The reason MMA is so fantastic to watch is it is a blend of techniques that WORK the best on one on one situations. Â I would DEFO be up for Cat-BO!!! Wish they done more of these skits with the cat
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