Paid Members bAzTNM#1 Posted February 22, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted February 22, 2014 (Mass Transit) He's dead now isn't he? Poor bastard. Yeah, gastric bypass surgery went wrong. He was 300lbs at 10. Only 22 when he died. Â Mass Transit Wikipedia Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.PeterVenkman Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Just thought, was anyone at Time Warner ever actually that bothered about the Monday Night Wars? Surely if Nitro (and the other shows) were doing great numbers without actually beating Raw and the company was doing well money wise then they would've been happy enough  I'm talking second half of 1998 really not '99/2000 when they were losing shitloads of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members bAzTNM#1 Posted February 22, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted February 22, 2014 As long as a healthy amount of money came in, Time Warners execs couldn't give a toss about the WWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted February 22, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted February 22, 2014 Cheers. When was the next one after that? Â The Minnesota Wrecking Crew (Ole and Gene) vacated the NWA tag belts in 1981 due to "injury" to Gene Anderson, which was actual health problems that caused him to retire. Â Not including injuries that I know (or at least strongly suspect) to have been 100% storyline, the next one may very well have been Shawn Michaels stripped of the Intercontinental title due to his concussion preventing him wrestling on the night against Dean Douglas at the fourth In Your House. Although legitimate, his injuries weren't as severe as they made out on TV, he was back in the ring on a house show by 3rd November, 12 days after the PPV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfMetal Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Was that when he and Bulldog got into a scrap with some military guys in Saracuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.PeterVenkman Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Was that when he and Bulldog got into a scrap with some military guys in Saracuse? Â Yeah, remember cringing when Bret said in his book about Bulldog telling him they were slamming the car door on HBK's face, though for it to be a proper Bret story they'd have been saying about how Bret had given them the greatest match they'd ever seen while knocking fuck out of them both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted February 22, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted February 22, 2014 Was that when he and Bulldog got into a scrap with some military guys in Saracuse? Â Yes. The heavily reported beating that he took which prompted his TV absence from the ring until Survivors, collapse the night after, "career-threatening post-concussion syndrome" and triumphant return at the Rumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfMetal Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Yeah I remember it well. Vince describing 'some 9 thugs' on commentary. All worked into his push towards WM12 quite well in the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Eddie Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Was that when he and Bulldog got into a scrap with some military guys in Saracuse? Â Â Â "We shall call it... Operation: Hot Grappler" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wolf Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 While cleaning out some stuff at my parents house I stumbled across the programme for a WWF show I was at in the run up to WMIX, fairly standard profiles of the superstars on the tour, but the one for Crush caught my eye, as it states under titles "None as of press time" Â This got me thinking, firstly, even though he defended the belts, because he never actually won the tag titles for Demolition, does that not count as a title reign? Or were we not meant to know this was the same guy (even at the time I knew they were the same guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEWM Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I've often thought before if we were supposed to put the two characters together or not too. They were crystal clear about it when he was ex-con Crush in 96, it was a "he's out the nick and he's got triangles on his face, it's a new and more dangerous Crush than ever!", but not so much when he came back from his holiday in Kona in 92. Seems more of a rare occasion where they were looking for a complete gimmick transformation and new backstory, but just decided to keep the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 There's so much stupid shit like that in wrestling that it beggars belief that they ever made such a stink about "kayfabe." Even in the sixties, if you had a cousin three cities over that you could phone, you'd know what the result was going to be when the loop got to your town that night. The fanbase can only ever have been kids, pure morons and people who knew it was a load of fake bollocks in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamp Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) I'm pretty sure there's a bit in one of the Chandler novels where Phillip Marlowe refers to the wrestlers as fake and hokey but I annoyingly can't remember which one. Â Turns out I might be wrong. In the 1953 novel the long goodbye Marlowe refers to the society pages as dog vomit and then says it makes even the wrestlers look good which I had in my head as the society pages are so full of shit even compared to the hokey wrestlers but I guess it probably just refers to wrestlers being ugly bastards. Don't have the novel anymore so I'm not sure on the context. Edited February 24, 2014 by Vamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members bAzTNM#1 Posted February 24, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted February 24, 2014 I've often thought before if we were supposed to put the two characters together or not too. They were crystal clear about it when he was ex-con Crush in 96, it was a "he's out the nick and he's got triangles on his face, it's a new and more dangerous Crush than ever!" I think they were wanting to bring back the "Demolition" Crush character when he went heel in 1994. Sure I read on Cawthorn's WWF Results site, that he came out in full Demolition gear, during a dark match on Monday Night Raw. Walked around the ring and left. It didn't happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil|kid Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Anyone subscribe to print copies of the observer? I've tried a couple of addresses for whoever posts them here in the UK but had no reply. Anyone get them direct from Dave? How long do they take to arrive usually? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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