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This Weekend's Boxing š„ (Haney vs. Garcia - April 20th)
wandshogun09 replied to Egg Shen's topic in MMA Forum
This is exactly the boat Iām in. I re-subscribed in March for AJ vs Ngannou and went for the year at Ā£9.99 a month. So Iām good with that until next March but Iāve already cancelled so my sub will end in March. Just canāt be doing with it. Bollocks to the liberty taking greedy bastards. -
This Weekend's Boxing š„ (Haney vs. Garcia - April 20th)
wandshogun09 replied to Egg Shen's topic in MMA Forum
Thought Iād bring this in here from the Fight Announcement thread. This was in response to Elle Brooke vs Paige VanZant being announced but itās more about the general pisstaking from DAZN bumping their subscription price up by 50% a month but then putting all their best fights on PPV and charging extra on top of that. Fucking joke and goes completely against the line that was being spun when DAZN was launched. The whole thing was that āPPV was deadā and this was gonna provide Boxing fans with quality fights all in one place at a reasonable price. And ALL fights would be included in your monthly subs. No PPV whatsoever. Now weāve got 3 PPVs in the next month or so. Remember this? The app/channel was something like Ā£2.99 when it started. Obviously that was never gonna last. Think it went to Ā£7.99 after that, then Ā£9.99 or whatever. And Iād have been fine with paying that if theyād stuck to their word and had everything included in the monthly subscription. Theyād have probably had me as a customer for life. Now itās been hiked up to Ā£14.99 a month but the vast majority of the fights Iām gonna be interested in, theyāll wanna charge another Ā£20 or whatever on top of that! And not even at a discounted price for subscribers. -
DAZN hikes up the subscription price 50% and offer up the Boxing equivalent of a bra and panties match from Raw in 2002? Coincidentally, I cancelled my subs today.
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Been watching this guyās interviews for a while now and really enjoying them. Especially when he has wrestlers on who you donāt see doing interviews that much anymore. The latest being Perry Saturnā¦ Good to see Saturn getting about and doing stuff like this again. Wasnāt there stories that heād completely gone off the grid and nobody had heard off him not too long ago? He looks healthier here than the last time I saw him as well. He looked like really gaunt and sick at one point. Not sure about the Seth Armstrong ātache but itās nice to see that he seems in good spirits here.
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Coming off a barmy UFC 300, itās back to reality, back to the mundane routine and back to the Apexā¦ ESPN MAIN CARD Matheus Nicolau vs Alex Perez Ryan Spann vs Bogdan Guskov Ariane Lipski vs Karine Silva Jhonata Diniz vs Austen Lane Jonathan Pearce vs David Onama Tim Means vs Uros Medic ESPN+/FIGHT PASS PRELIMS Rani Yahya vs Victor Henry Austin Hubbard vs Michal Figlak DonāTale Mayes vs Caio Machado Marnic Mann vs Ketlen Souza James Llontop vs Gabe Green Ivana Petrovic vs Liang Na Hayisaer Maheshate vs Gabriel Benitez A little bit of a comedown from 300 š¤£ Doesnāt help that the original Nicolau vs Kape 2 headliner fell apart but, looking at the entire card, thereās really not much at all to like about this. Even by Apex standards, I think this is at the lower end of the scale in terms of quality. Couple of bits Iāll actively seek out but I get the feeling Iām gonna be skimming through a LOT of this. So yeah, Matheus Nicolau vs Alex Perez tops the bill. Not an amazing headliner by any stretch but Iāll take this over a lot of the rotters theyāve served up at the Apex. Itās not a Heavyweight, Middleweight or Holly Holm fight so itās at least a step in the right direction! Worth pointing out that this was originally supposed to be Nicolau vs Manel Kape 2. A rematch of their Apex clash back in 2021. But true to form, Kape withdrew. Heās become one of the most frustrating fighters on the roster for me. Talks a load of shite about everyone else but when it comes time to get in there and back it up, he calls in sick a lot of the time. Seriously, one look at his Tapology page will tell you all you need to know. In his UFC stint, heās had more cancelled fights than fights he actually showed up to. Nicolau vs Kape 2 was actually supposed to go down in January but - surprise, surprise - Kape missed weight and the fight got scrapped. So they rescheduled it for this card and, once again, Kapeās out. Rib injury this time, apparently. Who cares at this point? Nicolauās a very decent fighter. Currently ranked #5 in the Flyweight division. Heās Brazilian, just turned 31 years old and holds a record of 19-3-1 with 10 of those wins coming inside the distance. He was initially on the UFC roster in 2015 but was let go after one loss (harsh) to Dustin Ortiz in 2018. He went away and won a couple of fights and was brought back in 2021. Thatās when he beat Kape by decision. He beat Tim Elliott and Matt Schnell after that but heās mostly gone under the radar really. Looking over his record now, I watch pretty much everything but I canāt say much of it is jumping off the page as particularly memorable. I donāt recall anything bad, heās just fairly nondescript and has kind of blended into the background on a bloated roster. Especially in the Flyweight division with the logjam weāve had there at the top end over the last few years. Not many new contenders have been able to really break away from the pack and stand out with all the endless rematches but that cycle seems to have been broken for now. Time for the rest of the 125ers to step up. Nicolau was on a solid 6 fight win streak before getting knocked out by Brandon Royval in his last fight last April. So itāll have been a whole year on the shelf for him by the time he walks up the Octagon steps here. Alex Perez is taking a bit of a risk here. Heās already coming off 3 straight losses so jumping in on short notice here mightnāt be the wisest move. Depends how you look at it though. If he loses this fight, obviously a 4th loss on the trot wouldnāt be good, but him stepping in and āsaving the cardā here will no doubt earn him some brownie points with the UFC big wigs. Under these circumstances, even losing a 4th straight, heād likely get another chance. Perez fought recently as well. He lost that dull decision against Muhammad Mokaev in early March. So he shouldnāt have strayed too far out of condition. And in fairness, his 2 losses prior to that were against Pantoja and Figgy. No shame there, obviously! Perez is a funny one for me though. Heās clearly not good enough to beat that elite level of Pantoja/Figgy. But he did stop Jussier Formiga in a round with leg kicks that time. And the thing I think has really hurt and hindered Perez in recent years has been his lack of activity. His last 3 fights have all had long gaps between them. He lost to Figgy at the end of 2020, was out a good 18 months before losing to Pantoja in mid 2022, then had an even longer layoff before the loss to Mokaev in March this year. If nothing else, the quick turnaround here is better than that. Thatās that then. Not a fight Iām gonna be counting the days to but itās not bad or anything. Itās a weird one really because itās far from ideal circumstances for either man. Nicolauās coming off a year out and Perez is taking it on short notice and is on a 3 fight losing skid. Who the fuck knows? Hopefully this goes ahead though regardless. Hate to even mention it and possibly put a jinx on it but itās not like Perez is any better than Kape for showing up to fights. Again, Iām looking at his Tapology and itās pretty grim. Since his UFC debut in 2017, Perez has fought 10 times. And heās had 13 scheduled bouts cancelled! And worryingly, 10 of those fights that got binned were in the last few years. His sicknotes are becoming more frequent. Had to chuckle really when Kape dropped out and they called Perez. Iāll be pleasantly surprised if this fight goes ahead, to be completely honest. Ryan Spann vs Bogdan Guskov as co-main is rotten but itās the Apex so itās about what we expect these days. I donāt know, maybe itāll be better than my low expectations but I canāt pretend I give much of a bollocks. Typical Light Heavyweight. You know the drill. Outside the top few 205ers, itās generally shite. Itās Heavyweight but with slightly less flab. Spannās been on the roster since 2018 now and has first round finishes over the likes of Little Nog, Ion Cutelaba and Dominick Reyes. Heās also somehow gone to a split decision with Sam Alvey so thereās that. Heās coming into this fight off back-to-back losses to Nikita Krylov and Anthony Smith. And speaking of Anthony Smithā¦ I do find it kind of amusing that Spann has gone 0-2 against Anthony Smith and now here he is trying to get one back against Smithās doppelgƤnger. Guskov is from Uzbekistan, 31 years old and has a record of 15-3, all finishes. He made his UFC debut on the Paris card in September but got subbed in a round by Volkan Oezdemir. He bounced back in February with a brutal first round knockout over Zac Pauga. Canāt see him amounting to much but he hasnāt bored me yet, which is more positive than I can be about most of the lower end of 205. Hopefully this exceeds my expectations. Itād be difficult not to really. Ariane Lipski vs Karine Silva is a fight Iām kind of into actually. Not in love with it or anything but it should be worth a look. Iāve been neither here or there on Lipski for most of her UFC career. Sheās far from the worst fighter in the Flyweight division but sheās just been a bit too inconsistent to really put a proper run together. Sheās only just turned 30 and she is coming off 3 wins now, so maybe sheās turned a corner. She had possibly her best showing yet last time out, armbarring Casey OāNeill at UFC 296 in December. Karine Silva is why Iām interested in this one thoughā¦ Havenāt seen a ton of her but what I have seen Iāve liked. Sheās Brazilian, sheās also not long turned 30 and sheās 17-4 with all her wins coming inside the distance and sheās on an 8 fight winning streak. She made her UFC debut in June 2022, subbing Poliana Botelho in a round. Then she absolutely mangled Ketlen Souzaās knee with a horrible leg lock in June last year. Then in her last fight in August, she guillotine choked Maryna Moroz in a round, avenging a loss from when they first fought way back early in her career. As always, it remains to be seen how far she can go and itās not like sheās been beating a whoās who of opposition. But so far, sheās handled business the way any solid prospect should. Canāt ask for any more than that. Jhonata Diniz vs Austen Lane is the obligatory main card Heavyweight offering. Every Apex card has to have one for some reason. Not even gonna dump on it. Iāve never seen Diniz before and Iāve seen very little of Lane. So I canāt really say much about it, positive or negative. Diniz is making his debut here. Heās Brazilian, 32 years old and undefeated at 6-0ā¦all first round knockouts. He also has a 22-7 Kickboxing record with 15 knockouts and went the distance with Rico Verhoeven on a GLORY card back in 2013. Laneās 36 years old and a former NFL player. He transitioned to MMA in 2017 and heās 12-4-0-1 with 12 finishes, mostly by KO/TKO. He made his UFC debut against Justin Tafa last June but it ended as a No Contest due to an eyepoke. They rematched in September and Tafa chinned him in about a minute. So either Diniz stays undefeated or Lane gets that elusive first UFC victory. Hopefully itās short and sweet either way. Jonathan Pearce vs David Onama is ***WANDāS ONE TO WATCH*** on this show. Wasnāt spoilt for choice here was I? This is a fun one though, on paper. Pearce is one of those decent fighters that, for some reason, I took a bit of a disliking to early into his run and I canāt even put my finger on why. Something about him just bugs me. So needless to say, I was quite pleased to see him get submitted by Joanderson Brito in his last fight in November. He was on fairly good form before that though, rattling off a 5 fight win streak and beating Christian Rodriguez and Darren Elkins along the way. Make no mistake though, Onama is the reason I wanted to highlight this oneā¦ We havenāt seen him since last June but heās been nothing but entertaining to watch so far in the UFC. If for some reason you never saw his 2022 fight with Nate Landwehr, fix that immediately. Fuck, even if you did see it, watch it again. Legitimately one of my favourite fights of the last couple of years. He lost a close decision that night but it was one of those losses where it felt like his stock was only raised by it. The fight was that good. Then he came back in his last fight and knocked out a game Gabriel Santos after a tough opening round. Canāt go wrong with basically any matchup you throw Onama in. Heās fought 5 times in the UFC, heās gone 3-2 in results but when it comes to delivering fun fights, heās 5-0. Looking forward to seeing him back in there. Tim Means vs Uros Medic might just be the sleeper on this card for me. Not a fight that immediately jumps out at you but I can see it being a good old scrap. Means is one of my favourite journeymen in the game. Heās a guy Iāve always enjoyed watching fight but it feels like heās been around forever. He turned 40 in February and thisāll be his 51st pro MMA fight. Over the years heās beat the likes of Nicolas Dalby, Thiago Alves, Mike Perry, John Howard and Bobby Green. He was in a slump recently, losing 3 on the bounce, but he snapped that losing streak in his last fight in September, stopping Andre Fialho in a really entertaining slugfest that got FOTN. Medic is the younger man at 30 and has a record of 9-2 with none of his 9 wins going to the judges. Heās had a few pretty exciting fights himself but comes into this one off a nasty neck crank submission loss to Myktybek Orolbai in November. I like this pairing. Rani Yahya vs Victor Henry is alright. Quite like both of these two, to be fair. I just donāt really know what to expect out of the matchup itself. Iāve always had a bit of a soft spot for Yahya for some reason. Heās one of the last men standing from that āone trick ponyā era of MMA. Turns 40 in September, has a record of 28-11-1-1 and heās been around long enough to have fought the likes of KID Yamamoto, Joseph Benavidez, JZ Cavalcante, Mark Hominick, Mike Brown and Chad Mendes. A veteran of WEC and the underrated K-1 HEROS promotion before signing with the UFC in 2011. Heās got no real striking to his game, in 40+ fights he doesnāt have one finish via KO/TKO. Heās a grappling specialist. But even still, heās managed to win 2 of his last 3 fights. Heāll have been out of action a whole year by the time this fight gets underway though. At pushing 40, not ideal. Henry is 36 with a 23-6-0-1 record and trains under the legendary Josh Barnett. We last saw him in October getting his ballbag kicked in by Javid Basharat. Obviously all groin strikes are horrible but this was a particularly bad one. The fight was stopped and ruled a No Contest and Barnett said after that when they went to the hospital post-fight, Henryās sack had āswollen to the size of a satsuma.ā Lovely. Basharat was a complete twat about it as well, to add insult to injury. Went from denying the kick was low at all to calling Henry a quitter for not just shrugging it off. He shouldnāt have to worry about being hit low in this one though because, as Iāve said, Yahya doesnāt strike much at all. Austin Hubbard vs Michal Figlak might be decent. Hubbardās 15-7 and this is his second UFC stint. After a mixed bag of results in his first run between 2019-21, going 3-4 overall, he was let go. He went away and got a couple of wins in 2022 then went on the TUF season last year coached by McGregor and Chandler. He made it to the finals but got submitted by Kurt Holobaugh at UFC 292 in August. This is his attempt to rebound. Polandās Figlak is 27 years old and 8-1 with 4 finishes. He came into the UFC with some high expectations after a successful run in Cage Warriors. He made his Octagon debut in September 2022 on the first ever UFC card in France, but lost on points to Fares Ziam. He was out all of 2023 and will have been inactive for around 20 months by the time he steps into the cage here. DonāTale Mayes vs Caio Machado. Vomit. I can say right now, Iāll be skipping this. I watch almost everything, even on these crappy Apex cards, but lifeās too short for this shit. Mayes isnāt very good. Heās 10-6-0-1 and his career highlight has been his TKO win over an old, washed up Andrei Arlovski last summer. And in typical ham and egger fashion, he followed that up by losing a nothing happening decision to Rodrigo Nascimento in his next fight. And Machado has only fought once in the UFC and Iām already done with him. Heās 8-2-1 and lost on points to Mick Parkin in November in an awful plodfest. Marnic Mann vs Ketlen Souza. No opinion on this. Havenāt seen enough to care. Mann is 31 years old and 6-2 with 4 finishes. Made her UFC debut in September and lost a decision to Josefine Knutsson in a fight I donāt think I even watched. Souzaās 28 years old with a record of 13-4 and 9 finishes. She made her first Octagon appearance last June and it ended painfully for her when she got kneebarred in less than 2 minutes by Karine Silva. It was a bloody horrible kneebar as well. I remember on the replays you could actually see her kneecap completely shift š¤¢ Iām actually surprised sheās back less than a year later, to be honest. James Llontop vs Gabe Green. Not sure. Never seen this Llontop fella. Heās Peruvian, 24 years old, 14-2 with 8 finishes and on a 12 fight win streak. And thisāll be his UFC debut. He won a decision on DWCS back in September and here we are. Green is in desperate need of a win here. Heās been in the UFC since 2020, has gone 2-3 since and is coming into this fight off back-to-back losses. And in his last fight he got bulldozed and knocked out by Bryan Battle in just 14 seconds. That was last May, so heās had 11 months to sit and stew on that loss. Feels like theyāre trying to set him up for another fall here but weāll see. Ivana Petrovic vs Liang Na. Canāt say Iām arsed. Iām not really familiar enough with either of them. Petrovic is Croatian/Norwegian, 29 years old and has a 6-1 record with 5 finishes. She won the Ares Flyweight title in 2022 and successfully defended it with a 4th round submission in April last year. All sounded good but then she lost a decision in her UFC debut against Luana Carolina in July. Instant hype killer that. Couldāve been partly down to the old āOctagon jittersā but losing to Luana Carolina is never a good sign. And Chinaās Liang is really floundering. Sheās 27 years old and 19-7 with 17 finishes. But sheās gone 0-3 in the UFC so far and sheās been finished in all 3 losses. And itās not even like sheās been facing elite opposition. Ariane Carnelossi, Silvana Gomez Juarez and JJ Aldrich have all managed to get her out of there in 2 rounds or less. Hayisaer Maheshate vs Gabriel Benitez is an OK fight. Could be fun. Maheshate made a hell of a first impression in his UFC debut a couple of years back, sparking Steve Garcia out cold in about a minute. It was some knockout. Reminded me a bit of Paul Daleyās KO against Scott Smith in Strikeforce. Garcia completely faceplanted. The old Flair Flop. Itās been all downhill since then though. He lost a decision to Rafa Garcia in his next fight and then got knocked out himself by Slava Claus in his last fight in May last year. Heās 9-3 overall now. Still only 24 years old, heās got some time. Benitez is probably on the home stretch of his career. Heās nearly 36 now and has gone 2-5 in his last 7 fights. Not good. We last saw him getting face cranked into submission by Jim Miller in January. Back to the Apexā¦
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This Weekend's Boxing š„ (Haney vs. Garcia - April 20th)
wandshogun09 replied to Egg Shen's topic in MMA Forum
Obviously I hope itās a troll job and thereās nothing serious going on with Garcia but that clip there, the way the camera pans out to reveal a completely bamboozled Haney just cracks me up š¤£ -
UFC 300 - Pereira vs Hill - Apr 13 šŗšø
wandshogun09 replied to wandshogun09's topic in MMA Forum
I read someone, pretty sure it was Luke Thomas, saying they donāt count cases where a fighter hits the canvas and immediately bounces back up to their feet as official knockdowns. Obviously in Boxing is a clear cut knockdown but apparently not the case in MMA. Fucking stupid, if you ask me. So next time Holloway fights, theyāre gonna keep trotting out the āheās never been knocked downā spiel when we all saw Gaethje punch him and put him on his arse. No matter how brief a time he was down, it should count shouldnāt it? Gaethje physically knocked him down, so by definition itās a knockdown. Yeah. His first couple of post-fight outbursts were quite funny but this one didnāt really hit for me. It seems like heās run out of things to rant about and heās trying too hard now. Itās just āMOTHERFUCKER, IāM BRAZILIAN BUT I LOVE AMERICA! I WANT TO BE A COP HERE IN AMERICA AND KILL THE MOTHERFUCKING BAD GUYS. I WANT MONEY! I WANT BONUS! MOTHERFUCKER! PPV POINTS! AMERICA! MOTHERFUCKER!ā Everyoneās lapping it up but itās getting really old for me already. His best moment on the mic is still this and itās not even him who makes it funny, itās Hadzovic and then Bispingās chuckle in the background. -
UFC 300 - Pereira vs Hill - Apr 13 šŗšø
wandshogun09 replied to wandshogun09's topic in MMA Forum
Forgot to mention this. Apparently it wasnāt counted as an official knockdown. Not sure why. A punch was thrown, a punch was landed, an arse hit the canvas. It was a knockdown. Shit, thereās not much positive Gaethje can take from this fight at all. They canāt give him that at least? Thinking about this card again, another thing I forgot to mention is how amazing it is that the card all stayed intact. Unless Iām overlooking something, I donāt think one single fight got cancelled or changed once they were officially signed. In this day and age, thatās a minor miracle! The similarly stacked 299 card pretty much stayed together as well last month. Weāre gonna pay for this at some point, arenāt we? Rest of 2024 is probably gonna be in tatters. -
UFC 300 - Pereira vs Hill - Apr 13 šŗšø
wandshogun09 replied to wandshogun09's topic in MMA Forum
Thisāll be a long one. Yeah. This has to rank up there among the greatest cards the UFC have ever put on. Not sure Iād say itās THE best. I get that people are buzzing coming out of this show and rightly so, but calling it the #1 best ever card covers so much ground. The phrase ārecency biasā gets overused these days but I think thereās a little bit of that with this card. But I canāt hate on the positivity and enthusiasm. And it was an incredible show. Certainly makes all the bitching about the card going in look silly. Note to future Alex Pereira opponents, do not, under any circumstances, kick him in the balls. š¤£ What a finish. Honestly looked like something out of a martial arts movie. The low blow, Herb Dean trying to step in and Pereira just casually saying ānah, Iāve got thisā, then walloping Hill was hilarious. Proper highlight reel moment. I always find myself doubting Pereira going into his fights. Partly his relative lack of experience in MMA, partly his limited skillset overall in MMA, partly that the way he moves looks so stiff and he always just seems a bit too āthere to be hitā. As powerful and lethal as he obviously is, he always has a slight air of vulnerability about him. That adds to the edge of the seat factor in his fights but it always has me half expecting him to get clipped as well. So I was well chuffed with this. Also happy that Pereira has now avenged the last 2 losses of Glover Teixeiraās career. Good stuff. Not a lot more to say about the fight itself. It was short and sweet and I got the result I wanted. I donāt get the feeling Pereiraās reign is gonna last long just because he made the switch to MMA so late and it still feels like thereās an obvious blueprint there to beat him which his opponents up to now havenāt fully committed to exploiting. But heās undeniably fun to watch and definitely has an aura around him. Just enjoy the ride while it lasts. Interesting that he was pushing to get on UFC 301 in the post-fight interview. I had seen a quote from him before the fight saying similar but I didnāt pay it much attention. With how quick this fight was though, and with Pereira seemingly not taking any significant damage, heās probably good to go for 301. Of course you never know what damage heās taken in camp but considering he was still saying he wants on the Brazil card after this fight, he must feel like heās up to it. The problem is though, just because heās up for it, theyād have to find him an opponent whoās also willing to step in on 3 weeks notice. Itās easy for Pereira to do it because heās fresh off a training camp and it would simply mean just keeping the ball rolling for a few more weeks and maintaining that conditioning and sharpness. For the opponent, theyād likely be coming in completely cold. This pic was interesting š¤ and Pereira did mention wanting to fight at Heavyweight. But I canāt see him and Aspinall happening yet. Itād be kind of cool, I guess, but I can live without it. Iād rather see them both keep winning in their own divisions than one of them get derailed. I think itās obvious Pereira only mentioned Heavyweight for the Brazil PPV because he doesnāt wanna have to make 205 twice in 3 weeks. Which is fair enough. Wouldāve been badass if he was able to turn right back around and defend his belt against Ankalaev at 301 but, yeah, making weight twice in such a short period of time would be rough. Plus Ankalaev isnāt gonna agree to what might be his one shot at UFC gold on 3 weeks notice and no training camp, is he? The Zhang Weili fight was so weird. Not the best fight to watch but it worked out alright because I think everyone kind of needed to calm down and catch their breath after what Mad Max did in the previous fight. Talk about a tough act to follow! The end result was what I think we all expected. Of all the fights on this card, besides the Bo Nickal fight, this was the one I was most sure about. But fuck me, Zhang had me worried for a bit there. Whether it was an adrenaline dump after nearly finishing Yan twice or what, Zhang faded in the third round and I thought Yan might just run away with it. Thankfully Zhang recovered and secured the decision but it looked a bit iffy there in the middle. Itās funny though, on a card where so much of the talk was about āmaking historyā, Zhang has a legitimate claim here to having beat Yan via submission, TKO and decision all in one fight! Thatās a first right there. Seriously, I thought Yan was done at the end of the first round from that choke. She was out and very lucky the fight wasnāt called off there and then. She was gone. Then in the second round when she had the back mount and was just raining down strikes, I thought the ref couldāve easily stopped it then as well. Then obviously, Zhang ended up winning on points. Sod it. Iām saying she subbed her, TKOād her and decisioned her. Count it as 3 successful title defences in one night. Max Fucking Holloway! What more can you say? One of THE single greatest overall performances Iāve ever seen in all my years watching this mad sport. It was a pretty straightforward fight to score. I think everyone had Max 3-1 up going into the last round, with Gaethje only winning the 4th. Max absolutely didnāt need to take any crazy risks in the 5th. Watching him stand there with 10 seconds left in the fight and basically throw down the gauntlet was one of those moments that will be replayed in video montages and promos endlessly. Heās done it in fights before but never on a card as big as this, in a fight as big as this and against an opponent as lethal as Gaethje. To go up in weight, against a killer like Gaethje, pretty much school him for 3 of the previous 4 rounds, then do that at 4:59 of the 5th! One bastard second to go in the fight. Insanity. And itās mad because just think about if that went wrong. I havenāt seen much talk of that because everyoneās understandably jizzing over what did happen. But Gaethje has arguably the heaviest hands in the Lightweight division. Just imagine if he cracked Max there and sparked him. That was a very real possibility and if that happened, Maxās decision to just throw caution to the wind in that last 10 seconds would be being looked at right now as probably the dumbest move in UFC history. Again, itās a risk Max didnāt have to take but here we are. He did it and it levelled this fight up from what wouldāve already been a mega impressive performance to a nailed on all time great moment and one of the best knockouts ever. Unbelievable. Itās gonna be retconned to fuck now after the fact, and Iāve already seen a bit of it, but never forget that when this fight was originally announced it was met with a lot of doom and gloom about what was gonna happen to Max. A lot of fans looked at his last venture up to 155 and seemed to decide that because he lost that fight (in a FOTY war against an animal in Dustin Poirier, I might add) that basically closed the door on any chances he had to do well at 155 ever again. I know Gaethje is a beast but some of the talk I saw going into this fight, acting like Max was a lamb heading into the lions den, was ridiculous. As the fight got closer I started to think Max was gonna win. Wasnāt sure of it, but something about him in the build up gave me a tad more confidence in him. Plus from early on when the fight got made it looked like he was more prepared for the move up in weight this time, looking a bit bigger and stronger physically. I had some doubts about whether that could hinder his speed but that obviously turned out to be a non factor. He looked fantastic here. Hopefully we can now put to bed this impression some seemed to have that Max is on the decline. It seems like since the losses to Volkanovski, people have been trying to zip the bodybag up on Maxās prime. I remember seeing a fair few predicting heād lose to Arnold Allen last year. There wasnāt so much of that before the Korean Zombie fight but I think that was more because everyone knew the Zombie was on the way out himself. But the amount of people I saw completely counting him out against Gaethje was nuts. Not just predicting heād lose, I can understand picking Gaethje, but predicting heād get badly fucked up and like he was out of his depth going up to 155. Losing a war against Dustin Poirier doesnāt mean you canāt beat other Lightweights. This fight was the perfect redemption and āfuck youā to the doubters for Max. The KO itself was the cherry on top but winning like 20 out of the 25 minutes before that really proved he can hang at 155 and that heās far from done. He had Gaethje hurt a bunch of times, including badly in the 5th even before the KO. Is this next for Holloway?! It seems like weāre getting Topuria vs Volk 2 first but fuck knows at this point. Topuria vs Holloway always seemed like a cool fight for down the road but after this and then Max calling out Topuria in the cage, then the camera cutting to Topuria in the crowd looking in shock. I think I wanna see it more than the Volk rematch next but Volk absolutely deserves another crack for the reign he had. I donāt know whatās gonna happen. Seems like thereās a few really fun options for Max now. If itās 145 thereās the Topuria fight. If itās 155, it doesnāt make much sense but donāt tell me you wouldnāt be all over Holloway vs Oliveira for the BMF title. Then thereās the outside possibility of Holloway vs McGregor 2 maybe? Really enjoyed the Tsarukyan vs Oliveira fight. I know we already had 3 title fights on this card but, looking at how this fight played out, itās a real shame this wasnāt 5 rounds. I agreed with the decision. Seen the usual cries of robbery but I think a lot of that is just because people like Oliveira more. He did have the more memorable āmomentsā as well. He definitely won the first round and that guillotine looked tight. Tsarukyan did well to survive that. But Tsarukyan answered by winning round 2 in dominant fashion and, while Oliveira had the late sub attempt in round 3, I didnāt think the rest of the round was close enough for that lone sub attempt to tip it in his favour. Tsarukyan was winning for 4+ minutes before that. Right man won but, like I said, I wish it was 5 rounds. Oliveira was always dangerous and it felt like it was just starting to really heat up at the end of the third. Rounds 4 and 5 wouldāve been very interesting. We talked about it in the Fight Announcement thread but Tsarukyan was offered the title shot backstage immediately following the fight and turned it down. I get it. Iām sure heād love the shot if he could get some rest first and then get a full training camp in. But jumping straight back into camp now for a fight on June 1st isnāt the best. Thatāll be why theyāve gone with Makhachev vs Poirier. The right move now, with that fight only 6-7 weeks away, is surely to just let Tsarukyan rest up and face the winner in Abu Dhabi in October or something. But you know what Danaās like. He throws a tantrum when he gets told ānoā and Iām sure heās got the hump with Tsarukyan now for turning the fight down. But Tsarukyan challenging the winner of Makhachev vs Poirier is the most logical way for this to go now. Bo Nickal predictably beat Cody Brundage. As he was supposed to. Nothing much to read into this. Iāve made no secret of the fact I think Brundage is total shite. So if anything, him lasting deep into the second round wasnāt a good look for Bo. Donāt get me wrong, Bo was in control the whole fight and was never in any danger. But if heās gonna be as good as he talks himself up as, he shouldāve been steamrolling this bum within 5 minutes. I donāt know. Itās another win for Bo and itās still early days so I donāt even have a problem with the matchmaking. But I canāt help but finding myself wanting to see him lose. He was pretty humble in the post-fight interview but he talks so much shite usually and itās not even in a charming or charismatic way. He just comes off as a bit of a twat to me. And the UFC/Dana bumming him doesnāt help. Dana was right there as he left the cage apparently giving him a pep talk and shit, which you never see him do usually. Something about these golden boys/chosen ones that instantly makes me wanna see them get derailed unless theyāre insanely likeable or something. Bo isnāt. Apparently Khamzat tweeted something criticising Boās performance and Bo went āIām getting finishes, this guyās going to decisionsā. Because finishing Val Woodburn and Cody Brundage is definitely in the same league as going to decisions with Gilbert Burns and Kamaru Usman. I know itās just trash talk but thatās wally talk. Jiri Prochazka vs Aleksandar Rakic was a lot of fun. It was a fight I was looking forward to but nowhere near as much as some of the others on this card. And a lot of that was down to not knowing what to expect from Rakic. He was coming off such a long layoff here and Iād been underwhelmed by him a couple of times even before the injury. But I thought he was looking really good early on. Itās odd because he had 2 years of inactivity and this was probably his toughest opponent to date but I honestly thought he was looking better in that first round than I can remember him ever looking. Even into the second round, I was getting the feeling he was well on his way to winning. Jiri was being Jiri and, despite his odd movement and wacky style, always looked dangerous. But I thought his weirdness wasnāt really working and Rakic was landing the better stuff. Until, he wasnātā¦ Such a stupidly fun fighter to watch. Emphasis on the stupid. And I donāt even mean that as a knock. Most of the time it genuinely doesnāt even look like he trains because no coach would recommend you fight that way he does. Itās like he just goes in there and wings it. Itās gonna end in tears eventually. In a lot of ways he reminds me of a bigger Tony Ferguson. His style looks like it shouldnāt work but it mostly does and he gets by a lot of times just by out-toughing the other guy and catching them with something off-beat or from a funny angle. But like Fergie, he puts himself in harmās way so much that, at some point it feels like heās gonna crash and burn in similar fashion. For now though, enjoy it while it lasts. Iāve seen Jamahal Hill call him out, wouldnāt mind that next. And Iād do Rakic vs Blachowicz 2. Thatās unfinished business because the first fight is where Rakic injured his knee and they were supposed to rematch in January. Thought Aljo Sterling looked a handful in his Featherweight debut. He looked strong and actually seemed more aggressive than I remember him being in his last few fights at 135. He was coming forward and initiating the action more than usual I thought. You could chalk that up to this being his first fight in a few years that was scheduled for 3 rounds instead of 5, and I think that was definitely part of it. But I just thought he seemed to look more energetic in general and thatās surely down to not having to cut so much weight. Seen a fair bit of negativity towards this fight but I thought it was fine myself. Not gonna pretend it was mega exciting to watch and being on a card like this didnāt help it, but it wasnāt as bad as Iāve seen it made out to be. The powerbomb was qualityā¦ Rough return fight for Kattar. Coming off a long layoff and an injury only to get completely shut down and dominated like this must be utterly demoralising. It mightāve been a slightly better fight had he been more active coming in but Aljo had his way in the grappling to such an extent that I donāt think the result wouldāve been any different regardless. Thought it was way harsh that they never interviewed Aljo post-fight, to be honest. Only adds to the general feeling that Aljo isnāt well liked by the bosses behind the curtain. Iāve seen people defending the UFC/Rogan not interviewing him ābecause he didnāt finishā but thatās bollocks. Iād maybe get that if they were up against it with time constraints but the other 3 fights on the televised prelims all ended in 2 rounds or less. So that doesnāt wash with me. They definitely had time for a quick interview. You just know that choice was made via Dana calling an audible, because he hates wrestling, and telling Rogan to not give Aljo the mic. Couldnāt have been happier to see Kayla Harrison get the decisive win and finish over Holly Holm. From the second the fight was announced I was half dreading it just because it felt like it had such high dud potential. And Harrison having to cut to 135 felt like it almost guaranteed a rotten fight. I still fancied her to win, which is more indicative of my thoughts on Holm in 2024 than anything. But I wasnāt exactly confident about it. Thought she looked great though. Pretty much the perfect UFC debut and, letās face it, about as good as you can look against the excitement repellent that Holmās become. She looked scary here. And the UFC ruleset and her being able to use elbows is really gonna compliment her game. Made me laugh listening to the commentators being so confused and questioning why Holm was choosing to clinch with Harrison. As if Holm hasnāt been a boring clinch-and-do-nothing merchant for years on end now. Nothing against the woman personally but it was very satisfying watching Harrison just crush her here. Not only because itās closed the door once again on Holm getting back in the title mix. But also, Christ knows the Bantamweight division has been crying out for some new blood for a long time and Harrisonās performance here was the first time Iāve been excited about anything in that wasteland of a division in yonks. Seems Iām not alone in that eitherā¦ Sheās got Amanda Nunes attention! I donāt know whether she was just doing this for a laugh or to keep her name out there, or whether sheās seriously thinking about coming back. Iāve got mixed feelings on that because I did feel like she got out at the right time. But I canāt lie, if Harrison keeps winning and becomes champ, then Nunes comes back to face her, itād be the best thing to happen to the division since the Rousey days. Half the reason Nunes retired in the first place was probably because there wasnāt much in the way of exciting fights worth sticking around for. I saw Cyborg tweeting something like āmaybe I should come back tooā or something but itās pointless because itās never gonna happen. Sheās never gonna make 135 and she canāt fight in the UFC because sheās contractually tied to PFL and Dana hates her. Holm was ranked #5 going in. I honestly wouldnāt be shocked if they just go ahead and give Harrison a title shot now. I saw a quote from Pennington before this fight along the lines of āIāll have a bitter taste if they let Kayla skip the line and take away the opportunity from all these other womenā. By āall these other womenā she means Irene Aldana, Mayra Bueno Silva, Ketlen Vieira and Julianna Pena. Theyāre the ones that were ranked above Holm before Saturday. Of that lot, Aldana is coming off one win but lost a lopsided decision in her title shot just before that. Bueno Silva just lost in her title shot and proper shat the bed in whatās probably the front runner for worst fight of the year so far against Pennington. Vieiraās coming off one win but lost to the current champ Pennington before that. And people are gonna argue the case for Pena but she hasnāt fought in almost 2 years when she got battered to a shutout by Nunes in a failed title shot. Iām struggling to see why any of this lot are any more deserving than Harrison. Diego Lopes did it again! As much as Iām always bigging him up I had some doubts about this fight for him. Had a feeling Super Sodiq might prove just a step too far for him at the moment. Neednāt have worried though. Blitzed him in 90 seconds. Very impressive. Yusuffās had some losses but you just donāt see people blast through him like this. This is a guy whoās gone the distance with Arnold Allen and was coming into this fight off the back of going 5 rounds in a tough battle against Edson Barboza. And Lopes just smashes him like this? I keep saying Iām not sure where his ceiling is but he just keeps winning. And Yusuff was a ranked guy. This was supposed to be a significant step up for Lopes and he treated it like it was light work. Saw someone on Twitter suggest doing Lopes vs Yair Rodriguez on the next Mexico card. I never even thought of that but Iād be all the fuck over that fight. Can you imagine? Lopes is ace. Just a whirlwind of hair, bad tattoos and violence. Renato Moicano got it done and got to do his thing on the mic but, man, Jalin Turner must be absolutely furious with himself for letting Moicano off the hook after thisā¦ Thereās obviously no guarantee Jalin wouldāve ended it there if he jumped on Moicano but going for the old Mark Hunt walk-off certainly didnāt work out very well for himā¦ Deary me. He fucked up big time and itās gonna haunt him. Thought the finish was a bit weak actually. Moicano was dominating that second round and was dropping the ground and pound but is it just me who felt like not much of it landed? For all the ground strikes Moicano threw at the end, it looked like all but maybe one or two of them were hitting the arms. Regardless, Turnerās gonna be kicking himself watching this back. Wouldnāt be surprised if he gets another fight booked ASAP now, just to get the stink of this loss off him. Didnāt think much of the Jessica Andrade vs Marina Rodriguez fight. Andrade was aggressive as always but it just never really caught fire. Close one as well, I thought. I had Andrade winning the first round and Rodriguez winning the third. The second was the decider and, honestly, I can see the argument for either woman. I thought Rodriguez was coasting to winning that round until the last minute or so and then Andrade was all over her. Didnāt have a problem with Andrade getting the nod myself. I think she mightāve nicked that second round plus I prefer her so I was cool with it. Bobby Green vs Jim Miller was a war. Exactly the type of fight anyone familiar with these two would expect. A fight 10 years in the making but it was worth waiting for. So glad it finally happened, wouldāve been criminal if these two went their whole careers just missing each other. On almost any other card, this is your FOTN. It did get rough to watch as it went on though. Miller took a bad beating. Iām vague on the scoring now but I remember him having a good first round but the second and third were just an all-out assault from Green. I had Green taking both rounds 10-8. I think the cut played a big part in Miller taking so much damage because it seemed like he couldnāt see the punches coming from that side after a certain point. Before the cut it was fairly even and still up for grabs. After the cut it was all downhill for Miller and Green just busted him up. I know he does it all the time but with all the taunting and shit talking Green was doing, I was dying for Miller to just waffle him but it never came. Shame to see Miller lose this one. Especially after winning at UFCs 100 and 200. What a tough bastard though. Even in the final seconds when he was covered in blood and all looked lost, he was still trying right to the end going for a leg lock. I know Miller changed his mind going into this fight about retiring just yet but a fight like this surely has him reconsidering that now. At 40 years old and having had such a long career and so many fights, the last thing he needed was a brutal, bloody dogfight like this. I thought maybe heāll wait for that New Jersey PPV so he can retire in his home state but thatās early June and surely thereās no way heās back in there that quick. Especially with a cut like that. Heāll probably fight on for a while but this was hard to watch. I liked Greenās callout of Paddy Pimblett. Iād be up for that. Not sure Paddy will be though. Figgy finishing Cody Garbrandt wasnāt a surprise to anyone but I think pretty much everyone expected a knockout. Figgy switched things upā¦ He had mercy on Codyās crumbling chin. Shame. I was looking forward to seeing him get flattened again. Nice of Figgy to just strangle him instead. Heās looking good at 135. Shouldāve sacked Flyweight off a bit sooner. I keep saying it and Iāll keep saying itā¦I really wanna see Figgy vs Petr Yan or Chito Vera. Or Yan vs Chito. Any combination of those three, I want it. Figgy was actually asked by the media post-fight about possibly fighting Yan but he shut it down and said he wants a title shot? Fair enough for trying. If you donāt ask you donāt get etc. But thereās no way, is there? Not yet. OāMalley vs Merab is absolutely the title fight to make next. And even after that, Sandhagen is ahead of him and you have to think Jose Aldo will quickly be back in the conversation as well if he wins at 301 in Brazil. Hopefully the matchmakers can talk some sense into Figgy and get him in there with Yan or something. Because, as much as Iāve enjoyed Figās first couple of Bantamweight fights, wins over Font and Garbrandt donāt scream ānumber one contenderā do they? Barmy show. When MMA goes right, itās something else. If thereās a better card than this to come in 2024 then weāre in for a treat. -
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Maybe but when Dana initially announced Oliveira vs Tsarukyan he said it was a #1 contender fight. That lines up with why Tsarukyan was offered the title shot first. With him turning it down and Oliveira losing the only real options were Poirier or Holloway. And I think Holloway is gonna go back to 145 now so that just left Poirier.
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Yeah, standard shit from the UFC but itās bollocks that they hit fighters with that immediately after fights. No doubt Dana will turn on Tsarukyan now and claim he ādidnāt want the fightā but who knows what heās got going on physically and/or in his personal life. For him to pass on a title shot, there must be a good reason. And to be fair, turning straight back around into another training camp isnāt ideal. Heās been waiting to break through in the title mix for a while now and heās already 0-1 down to Makhachev. Heād be a fool to accept the fight now if he feels like he canāt get a proper camp in. If he said yes and lost the fight, then heās 0-2 to Islam and who knows when heād get another shot? You want a full, dedicated and very specific training camp for a guy like Makhachev. And with the show only being about 6-7 weeks away on June 1st, itās not ideal. Especially if heās got any injuries from this UFC 300 camp or the fight itself. Or even just fearing he might overtrain doing back-to-back camps. But yeah, blindsiding fighters straight after fights to ānegotiateā the next fight is bullshit. Hereās my favourite example of that backfiring spectacularlyā¦
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wandshogun09 replied to wandshogun09's topic in MMA Forum
Iāll post more when Iāve had a sleep and caught up on the stuff I missed but, fuck me, what a show. Loads of good stuff to talk about but Max Fucking Holloway man! -
Itās on then. McGregor vs Chandler. UFC 303. June 29. 5 rounds at 170lbs.
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Well fuckā¦ Andā¦
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UFC 300 - Pereira vs Hill - Apr 13 šŗšø
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Iām going Pereira, Zhang and Iāve come around to thinking Max might pull it off the closer itās gotten. Admittedly the Pereira and Max picks have a touch of wishful thinking to them, wouldnāt say Iām hugely confident in either getting the W tonight but Iām leaning towards both and hoping they win. Pretty sure of a Zhang win but weāll see. Further down the card Iām actually thinking Tsarukyan might spoil the Oliveira comeback and Bo Nickal is gonna squash Brundage, obvs. On the prelims Iām fancying Aljo to beat Kattar, Jiri to KO Rakic and, fuck it, Harrison to finally put Holm out of OUR misery. Got Yusuff over Lopes as well, Turner over Moicano and Andrade over Rodrigues. Miller vs Green Iām about a dead 50/50 on but Iāll go with Miller because itās the result I want. And I think Figgy decks Garbrandt in the curtain jerker. Oh and while Iām here, a fan caught this video last night of Jiri Prochazka just standing there, staring out the T-Mobile Arena. He was out there for at least 20 minutes according to this guy š¤£ Jiriās a different type of cat. -
Iām late but happy birthday Devon. Hope you had a good one.
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Looks lovely that! Chips look perfect.
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UFC 300 - Pereira vs Hill - Apr 13 šŗšø
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wandshogun09 replied to wandshogun09's topic in MMA Forum
Just looked back at the UFC 200 thread on here. 74 fucking pages!! Times have changedā¦ Obviously there was more to talk about with 200. McGregor vs Diaz 2 initially being planned for it, Holm vs Rousey 2 being rumoured at one point, Aldo returning coming off that disastrous 13 seconds against Conor in his previous fight etc. Then there was the whole madness with Jon Jones getting USADAād and fucking up the Cormier rematch leading to Anderson Silva stepping in at the eleventh hour. There was a LOT going on. And of course, Brock Lesnar coming back against Mark Hunt was a massive talking point on here in 2016. Goes without saying, on this forum, any time a big pro wrestling star makes the jump itās gonna get more attention. But still, 74 bastard pages. And here we are on UFC 300 fight day and weāre only on page 2. -
McGregor was on James Cordenās podcast apparently. Genuinely canāt think of much Iād wanna listen to less than this shite.
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Turns out Mark Coleman will be wrapping the BMF belt around the winner of Gaethje vs Holloway.