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Never saw this one comingā¦ I actually like it though. No doubt thereāll be some moaning because Erceg isnāt that well known but those same fans are also always moaning that the Flyweight title picture is constant rematches. At least this is a fresh fight and Erceg has looked good in the fights Iāve seen. Sod it. It is gonna be a bit weak if this ends up headlining 301 but, by throwing Alex Pereira on 300, they havenāt left themselves with a lot of options. Good fight though.
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Yeah Iāve said it before on here but when you look at the range of different personality types heās had dealings with in MMA, and not all of them were known for being easy to deal with, itās actually amazing that not one of them seem to have a bad word to say about him. From Diaz to Rousey to Fedor to Semtex to Tito to Kimbo to proper old schoolers like Shamrock and Gracie etc. Then you see this and realise heās had this long standing relationship with Melendez dating all the way back to the very first Strikeforce show in 2006! Iām sure he has his moments behind the scenes but, by fight promoter standards, the manās pretty much a saint. For him to be around so long and deal with so many established names and some difficult characters and not really have any bad stories attached to his name tells you how respected he must be.
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I couldāve gone to that Magnificent 7 card. I was at the first one in 2010 or whenever it was, the night Enzo got ironed out by Frenkel in horrifying fashion. A couple of mates are going to tomorrowās show and I kind of wish I was as well now but family stuff scuppered it.
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Yeah just saw that myself. Sadly his dog died but what a man. A genuine hero.
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UFC Vegas: Tuivasa vs Tybura - Mar 16 šŗšø
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Also might be a case where Masvidal isnāt free to fight MMA anywhere else. Not sure what his contract status was with the UFC when he āretiredā but he might still technically owe them fights if he wants to do MMA again. No interest in it myself.
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UFC 299: OāMalley vs Vera 2 - Mar 9 šŗšø
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Yeah heās what youād get if Millhouse cosplayed as Krusty The Clown. -
The PFL Thread š° (March 7th - Doumbe vs. Chamsoudinov)
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Definitely had a touch of the Oliver McCall breakdown vs Lennox Lewis. Bizarre. -
UFC 299: OāMalley vs Vera 2 - Mar 9 šŗšø
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The Suga Show has been recommissioned for another series then. One way traffic this. Chitoās tough as shit but he got battered here the whole 5 rounds. I like Chito but, after rewatching the first fight the other day, I got the feeling the first fight was heading towards looking something like this had OāMalley not got injured. I think heās just a bad matchup for him and I think he knew it, which is why he campaigned for this rather than defend against the likes of Merab or Sandhagen. Chitoās a fun fighter but heās always had a tendency to let big chunks of rounds slip by just waiting for that one opening to do his damage. OāMalley did a good job here of making sure those openings just never came. Chito landed some good shots here and there but on the whole he just never did enough and that allowed OāMalley to just get comfortable and let his strikes flow. How Chito ate this knee, I donāt knowā¦ The sound it made was disgusting as well. Chito just got picked apart for 25 minutes and wasnāt really equipped to do much back. Like OāMalley or not, and I donāt, it was a strong performance. I donāt think Iāve ever seen Chito beat up as much as he was in this fight. BUTā¦itās gotta be Merab next. I donāt wanna hear anything else. Itās clear OāMalley doesnāt want that but fuck that. Iāve always believed a champion shouldnāt really get to decide whoās next. A champion should defend against whoever the next in line is. And Merabās that guy right now. Why he wants to get ironed out by Topuria, I donāt know. But even though I think both Merab and Topuria batter him, I guess heād rather the Topuria fight because itās got the ready made excuse of āwell I went up in weightā. Whereas Merab ragdolling him in his own division would be harder to live with. Iāve got very little interest in OāMalley vs Topuria right now though. Iām over this division hopping shite the champs all wanna do now. Sounds like Topuria vs Volk 2 is next at 145 anyway. If not that then Topuria vs Holloway would be class. OāMalley should be defending against Merab, end of. Also sick of hearing about how much of a āstarā OāMalley is. Iām not denying heās popular and has a fanbase. Fine. But just the fact that OāMalley and the UFC have to keep telling us heās a star, itās all a bit forced. The funny hair colours and pink shorts and all that feels like overcompensating because when you actually listen to him talk, thereās not much substance to it. The comparisons to Conor McGregor donāt help either. Anyone who was actually a MMA fan at the time of McGregorās rise knows this OāMalley thing doesnāt compare. Fuck, this fight week alone it felt like Chito was actually the more popular of the two to me. I donāt know, something about it all just feels a bit desperate with OāMalley. Very good fighter and if walking around looking like a bag of Haribo is working for him then great. But Iām not really buying him as some massive star. Maybe he will be in time. For what seems like the millionth time in his career, Dustin Poirier stole the show. What an absolute badass. I ended up picking Poirier to win after rewatching some of Benoit Saint Denis other fights before 299 over the weekend. As exciting as he is to watch, I forgot how wild and hittable he was and I fancied Dustin to catch him at some point. I also felt like too many people were counting Dustin out, and it felt like it was mostly because of the loss to Gaethje last time. But it was still a fight I was unsure of. It was always gonna be a dogfight. Benoit was giving Poirier hell in that first round and you could tell who Rogan was rooting for. He was almost cheerleading BSD at times and kept talking about Poirier getting tired and how Saint Denis was āforcing him into a warā. What? Poirier doesnāt do anything but wars. Saint Denis didnāt need to āforceā him. Yep. Poirier just outlasted him. Took everything BSD could throw at him for a round, then chinned him in the next round. Lovely stuff. Saw Poirier talking about it on Helwaniās show today and he said that when he went over to the cage after the KO he was saying to Dana āYou want me to fight these young motherfuckers? This is what happensā š¤£ seems like there were some issues with Poirier and his management vs Dana and the UFC behind the scenes going into this one. There was that whole thing with the fight getting cancelled then it was suddenly back on and then one of the first things Dustin does after the knockout is to go and rub Danaās nose in it? With all that and then the way company man and Danaās boy Rogan kept banging on and sucking Saint Denis off and talking about Poirier being tired and stuff, it definitely had a feel to me like the UFC thought they were āfeedingā Dustin to BSD here and using him as a stepping stone. Poirier wasnāt having it. He really needs to lay off them guillotine attempts though! I donāt think Iāve ever seen him lock one in successfully in a fight. Itās becoming his version of when Ted DiBiase would try that fist drop from the middle rope and he missed it every single time. Dustin actually posted this on Twitter! I could swear that when Dana announced that Oliveira vs Tsarukyan fight he said the winner would challenge Islam Makhachev for the gold later in the year. Obviously plans can always change and especially when it comes from Danaās mouth. But they might not wanna have Dustin face those guys. Anything could happen. I can see a scenario where the winner of Oliveira vs Tsarukyan is hurt and Dustin swoops in and goes straight to a title fight with Makhachev. I could see Poirier vs Gaethje 3, although it seems a bit soon for that. And I could see McGregor fucking Michael Chandler over and choosing to do a 4th fight with Poirier instead. Thereās a bunch of ways it can go. Iād like to see Saint Denis against Fiziev if heās gonna be healthy soon. Or Dan Hooker maybe. Last thing on Poirier, I loved his post-fight interview talking about why he accepted the fightā¦ āI took this fight because he finished his last 5 opponents. He wasnāt a name that the world really knows, heās on his way up, but he finished his last 5 opponents and heās dangerous. Every win on his professional career heās finished. And he has a ānever say dieā attitude. When I saw that and I watched some of his fights, he fought one of my friends, I said Iāve gotta take this fight because I honour this game that we do. Eddie Alvarez gave me my shot in Dallas, when he was a former champ and I was on my way up. So you gotta pay it back. Hold your position or lose it man, thatās the nature of the beast, thatās what we do.ā - Dustin Poirier Refreshing to hear a top name talk like that. The risks outweighed the rewards for him in this fight but he went in there and did a job on BSD regardless. Thought MVP vs Holland was arse but it always felt like a coin flip to me whether it would end up being some mad video game fight or what we got. So I wasnāt surprised it went how it did. Itās the way MVP rolls. Heās in dull fights just as much as he creates highlight reels. If not more. Seems more bothered about his walkouts than anything. Seen mixed reactions to this fight since Saturday night, with some going on like it was great. I donāt get it myself. It wasnāt MVPās worst fight, weāve seen much worse, but it wasnāt much good either. And letās face it, this was one of the more favourable matchups they couldāve given MVP for his debut. Doesnāt exactly bode well for his future. Guessing heāll be on that UK show next. No clue who against. The obvious opponent has always been Wonderboy but MVP himself has said heās not keen on that as theyāre too similar and he thinks itād be a boring fight. I think thatās spot on, to be honest. Jack Della Maddalena passed his toughest test to date but Burns made him earn it. Burns was up 2-0 on 2 of the judges scorecards going into that last round and, although Maddalena was competitive throughout and did show flashes of real quality in the striking and some solid defensive grappling, by the time the third round was getting underway I definitely felt like he needed a finish to win the fight. He found it. The gif really doesnāt do it justice. First of all, that sequence that started it all where he escaped back to his feet and hit that knee was beautiful. Then the follow up elbows and punches on the ground were just brutal. Way worse than the gif makes it look. Like always, Iāve seen twats calling this a lucky finish but itās complete shite. He was always in the fight, even 0-2 down on the scorecards and when he was in bad positions, he never just accepted it. He was always trying to make something happen and when the opportunity came, he pounced all over it. If anything, I think this was a very encouraging performance from him. Calling out Shavkat was ballsy as well. Iād love to see that fight. Only negative I can find on that fight is it eliminates one of them from the title race but I wouldnāt be against seeing it. Fuck it. I enjoyed the Petr Yan vs Song Yadong fight. Itās a shame we never got 5 rounds of it because I think an extra 2 rounds might well have tipped it from āvery goodā into āgreatā territory. Yan got off to a slow start like heās been known to do in the past and Song had a strong opening round. After that first round I really thought Yan was heading for yet another loss. But he came out with more urgency and got back into the fight well in the second. I had him winning that and the last round. I think it couldāve been a better fight, it never quite caught fire like I thought it would. But I think a lot of that mightāve been down to Yan being inactive so long plus the pressure to snap that losing streak. Now heās got that first win back out of the way, I think thereāll be more great fights to come. Looking at the rankings, Yanās already fought all the guys above him and I canāt see him rematching any of them just yet. So I think heās gonna have to fight down in rank next. Iād be up for him facing the winner of Figgy vs Garbrandt myself. Thatās an exciting fight either way. And Iād do Song vs Chito 2 next. The first fight is one thatās been debated and Chitoās always claimed he was robbed. With both coming off losses here, now seems as good a time as any to run it back. Like others, I found myself quite pleased to see Curtis Blaydes get the win over Jailton Almeida. Blaydes has grown on me a bit in recent years and, while I had high hopes for Jailton initially, that fight against Derrick Lewis was rotten. This was always a really intriguing test for him because of Blaydesā wrestling. He did well in the first round but more from a control standpoint than actually inflicting damage. It was impressive he was able to keep taking Blaydes down and control him but, because thatās all he did, Blaydes really took no punishment. By the end of that first round it kind of felt like Jailton couldāve done that all night. But it was such a one note approach and almost as soon as the second round startedā¦ Blaydes knew exactly what he was gonna do, anticipated it and made him pay the price. Blaydes looked so bored the whole time Almeida was ragging him about in the first round, he looked genuinely pissed off as he just unloaded with all those hammerfists at the end š¤£ donāt know what the fuck Rogan was watching or why he was insisting an uppercut happened when the replays clearly showed it didnāt. Good use of Blaydes mic time in the post-fight interview though. I liked him calling out Aspinall. We all know itās bollocks and that Aspinall should be fighting Jon Jones next but what can you do? With that not happening, Aspinall vs Blaydes 2 makes sense to me. Unfinished business. Skimmed through the Maycee Barber vs Katlyn Cerminara fight. I didnāt completely skip it because Barberās been alright to watch in recent fights and I thought she might be able to drag something decent out of this. But it didnāt look much good from what I saw. Like I said the other day, I feel really bad for Katlyn after hearing what sheās gone through lately. But even with that said, Iāve just got no desire to sit through her fights. For that reason I was happy to see Barber get the win at least. Sheās climbing the rankings now. Jessica Andrade is fighting Marina Rodriguez at UFC 300, maybe give Barber the winner of that? Yeah, Gamrot got his cleanest high level win here over RDA. I find him so frustrating to watch though. Clearly heās got skills, his wrestling is relentless and heās obviously really well conditioned. But like Al said above, he gets opponents down but there doesnāt seem to be any serious consequences to it. He was finishing fights early in his UFC run but as heās gone up in levels and heās facing tougher guys, he definitely seems to lack that finishing ability. RDA has clearly lost a few steps but it was nice to hear the commentators give him some praise for his longevity. The manās granite. He had Gamrot hurt in that first round as well. Got my hopes up but it wasnāt to be. Not a clue who Gamrot fights now. The guys above him in the rankings, youāve got Chandler still waiting on McGregor, Gaethjeās tied up with Holloway and Poirierās his teammate at ATT so Iām not sure if theyād even fight each other. And again, Iām sure Dana said the winner of Oliveira vs Tsarukyan is getting the shot at Makhachev so thatās out. Gamrotās best bet might be to go after the loser of one of those big fights. Heās definitely not gonna get the title shot next though. Thought Kyler Phillips looked phenomenal in his fight. Granted, Pedro Munhoz is getting long in the tooth now and on the home stretch of his career, but I thought Phillips put on a bit of a clinic here. All that was missing was a finish but thatās probably more to do with Munhoz being crazy durable than anything else. Iāve liked what Iāve seen of Phillips in some of his previous fights but his progress had stalled a bit. This win should earn him a spot in the rankings though and I thought it was probably his overall best performance so far in the UFC. So many fun fights to make with him in the Top 15 at Bantamweight. Love the idea of a fight with Font or Martinez like WeeAl mentioned there. Lins vs Cutelaba was better than I expected. Think I said in the opening post that Lins does nothing for me but he was fine here. Whether it was Cutelaba being such a nutcase forcing Lins to scrap or what, I quite enjoyed it as a prelim filler brawl. In fairness to Lins as well, I didnāt realise that all his previous UFC fights were either in the Apex or empty venues during COVID. Maybe actually getting to fight in front of a crowd gave him a boost. Michel Pereira pissing straight through Oleksiejczuk in about a minute was a buzz. Although this was a darkhorse fight for me on the undercard and I was hoping itād last a bit longer than it did. Pereira crushed him though. Those body kicks that set up the finishing choke were horrible. Love watching Pereira. Mad sod. I know heās got his detractors and Iām not claiming heāll ever make a dent in the title mix. But man, heās entertaining to watch. Heās looking a beast since moving up to 185 as well. Shouldāve sacked to the cut to 170 off years back. Robelis Despaigne couldnāt have had a more impactful and memorable UFC debut. 18 bastard seconds! Yeah it was only Josh Parisian he squashed but, still, it was quite a first impression on the big stage. Obviously thereās a ton of questions to be answered and at 35 and coming from a purely striking background, his ceiling mightnāt be very high. But itās a new Heavyweight that stands out and is actually worth talking about. We havenāt had many of them come along in recent years. At the very least, hopefully heāll squash a few more of these fat jobbers that have been stinking up the division for years. If he was younger Iād say just feed him these no hopers for a while. But given his age and the lack of depth at Heavyweight, I reckon theyāll try to fast track him and that could backfire. Still, regardless of the opposition, the fact his last 4 fights have lasted a combined 37 seconds is insane! Was chuffed to see Joanne Wood go out on a win. Turned out to be a decent fight as well. Not a barnburner but decent and Wood really turned it up in that last round. That late onslaught is what won her the fight in the end. I was really hoping sheād get the finish when this landed but Moroz just about survived it. Still, it was nice to see Wood go out on a positive note. I get the feeling her retirement will stick as well. Seems like sheās more focused on family now. You could see it in her post-fight interview, Rogan asked her about the fight and she immediately just started talking about being happy her step son was in attendance. Yeah, this card didnāt quite live up to the potential it had. I enjoyed it mostly though. It just looked like a Best Card Of The Year type thing on paper and it fell a bit short of those expectations. Wasnāt bad though and it definitely had a few real standout moments. Onto 300! -
UFC 299: OāMalley vs Vera 2 - Mar 9 šŗšø
wandshogun09 replied to wandshogun09's topic in MMA Forum
Yeah, it was listed as being on TNT Sports 2 all week. Apparently they moved it to TNT Sports 1 not long before show time. Iām guessing it fucked a lot of people up. If youāve got the Discovery+ app itās all on there. Main card and prelims. -
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Knockout Chaos: Joshua vs Ngannou - Mar 8 šøš¦š„
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By far the worst part about Ngannou getting knocked out, this was Danaās face when asked about it at the UFC 299 press conference last nightā¦ -
UFC 299: OāMalley vs Vera 2 - Mar 9 šŗšø
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Has everyone forgot about this? š¤£ Itās kind of an alright card you know. Anywayā¦ Didnāt think Iād get around to revisiting this one but the kids are in bed and the Mrs is sick and asleep so itās either this or drinking on my own. Saturday nights used to be better than this. Sod it. I actually barely remember this fight. Obviously I know how it ended but thatās about all I can recall of it. So yeah, these two met back in the summer of 2020 as co-main under the Stipe vs DC rubber match. OāMalley was pretty untested at the time but had just about scraped into the rankings. I donāt think Chito was even ranked. So it was a curios choice as co-headliner but just shows how highly the top bollocks behind the scenes at UFC HQ rated OāMalley. He was undefeated at 12-0 and 9 finishes coming in and was one of the first DWCS guys the UFC machine got behind and really pushed. Chito was a step up from the guys OāMalley had been facing but he was coming off a decision loss against Song Yadong in his previous fight, taking him to 6 losses overall at that point in his career. So a step up for āSugaā but not an outrageous one. The pre-fight video is all about how OāMalley is gonna be this mega star. Again, bear in mind his best win at this point is a KO over a badly fading Eddie Wineland who was close to retiring. But heās sat there on some makeshift throne with a jazzy gold robe on like heās Hugh Hefner, and a dog on his lap, name dropping the likes of Michael Jordan, Muhammad Ali and Conor McGregor in comparison to himself. š¤£ Chito comes on and heās the complete opposite. Heās got a chip on his shoulder and heās all pissed off about the Song Yadong decision going against him. Sean OāMalley vs Marlon Vera UFC 252: Miocic vs Cormier 3 August 15th 2020 Las Vegas, Nevada Commentators are Jon Anik, Joe Rogan and Dominick Cruz. Ugh. Rogan and Cruz is an abysmal combination. Iām not the biggest fan of DC on commentary but Iād even rather him than Cruz. Obviously DC had other things to do on this card though. Fight is at the shitty Apex because itās 2020 and COVID is still in the relatively early stages of going in dry on the world. Herb Deanās on reffing duties. And weāre offā¦ Round 1: OāMalley comes out right away throwing leg kicks. And after literally one or two of them Chitoās switching stances. OāMalleyās kicking the legs on both sides though, regardless of Veraās stance. Body kicks now from āSugaā and Chitoās having a hard time getting close to get in punching range. OāMalleyās throwing a lot of feints but pretty much all his offence so far has been kicks. Very few punches. About midway through the round now andā¦something just happenedā¦ Yep. OāMalleyās leg appeared to buckle and at that moment his whole demeanour and body language changes. The commentators donāt even mention it, it seems like they completely missed it. Chito didnāt though. Heās immediately upped the aggression. OāMalleyās gone from being very active to just retreating now. Again, OāMalleyās having trouble putting any weight on the right leg and now the commentators have finally twigged that somethingās wrong. Chito advancing now and putting the pressure on. He smells blood. Chito kicking OāMalleyās good leg now. OāMalley still moving but it seems like heās literally just trying to survive the round at this point. Final minute of the round and OāMalleyās trying to throw heavy punches. He knows his ankle is done and he needs to just end the fight. But his balance is gone and he falls on his arse after whiffing on a right hand. And Chitoās all the fuck over him. Itās over. That first elbow was absolutely brutal. The sound of it was sickening, especially in the empty Apex. The commentators start saying the stoppage was āquickā but Cruz rightly shoots that talk down. OāMalley was toast. Of all the bad Herb Dean stoppages to complain about, this wasnāt one of them. And even if heād let it go, thereās no way OāMalley was coming out for the second round with his leg in the state it was in. Winner - Marlon Vera by TKO. Round 1 - 4:40. Really unfortunate ending. Iām no fan of OāMalley but it must suck to suffer your first defeat like that. Of course Chito got a legitimate finish there. Itās a TKO win for him. But watching this back now, itās hard to really take much away from this. It was early in the fight but Iāve gotta say OāMalley was well in control before the injury. Chito couldnāt get near him and got nothing done until OāMalley rolled his ankle or whatever he did. Then from that moment on, OāMalley wasnāt the same fighter. I know it can sound like excuse making and Iām the last one whoās gonna make excuses for the Skittles headed prick. But fairās fair, that injury was a massive factor in why the fight played out how it did. You never know how it wouldāve gone had the injury not happened because, although OāMalley was winning, Chito is known to let 3 or 4 minutes of a round slip by before he wakes up and inflicts a bunch of damage in the last minute or whatever. There was a lot of time in the fight to play out so maybe he wouldāve warmed into it. But just looking at the less than a round it lasted, itās undeniable that the injury was a huge momentum shifter and completely altered the course of the fight. Hopefully nothing like this happens tonight and we get to see the unfinished business settled between these two with no controversy. Thereās a cracking fight to be had here if theyāre both coming in on good form. I think a lot of people mightāve just looked at the records, seen Chito got a first round stoppage the first time and assumed heās gonna cause all sorts of grief for OāMalley but you look back at that fight and ALL his success comes from Seanās injury. Even when he ended up on top of him dropping the fight ending elbows, itās not like he successfully took OāMalley down. They ended up in that position solely because OāMalleyās leg gave out and he fell to his back. Thereās honestly pretty much nothing from that first fight that I think has any real bearing on how this rematch goes. Guess that makes this post pretty pointless really. Although itās a rematch, I think itās basically a fresh fight. OāMalleyās grown a fair bit since 2020. Heās proven himself against the likes of Aljo and Yan, won the title and heās got that bit more experience and legit confidence now that only comes with time and fighting at a higher level. But Chitoās tough and scrappy and he does have that 5 round experience whereas OāMalleyās never gone longer than 3 rounds. Youāve got to imagine theyāre both gonna be bang up for this as well. OāMalley is looking to avenge his only loss and for Chito, letās face it, this is almost certainly the best chance heās ever gonna get to win UFC gold. I think OāMalleyās winning but much stranger things have happened. See you on the other side of this beauty. -
UFC 299: OāMalley vs Vera 2 - Mar 9 šŗšø
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PFL on Thursday, Joshua vs Ngannou on Fridayā¦feels like the build up for this has taken a little bit of a hit. But this is a proper stacked card tonight. Just hours away now. š„š„š„ -
Knockout Chaos: Joshua vs Ngannou - Mar 8 šøš¦š„
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Knockout Chaos: Joshua vs Ngannou - Mar 8 šøš¦š„
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Yeah the pacing was rotten as always. AJ vs Ngannou were meant to be in there by 11ish werenāt they? Which is already late for a main event to start. Donāt think they were in the ring before 12:30 in the end. Too much waffle between fights. Any show starting at 3pm and not ending until after midnight is too much. Card was good though. I enjoyed most of the undercard but was a bit underwhelmed by Parker vs Zhang. Hilarious to me how Zhang was acting shocked when Parker was announced the winner. Aside from the knockdown I thought he looked pretty bad last night. Ball vs Vargas was fun as expected. Enjoyed Huni vs Lerena as well, Lerenaās tough as old boots and I was really rooting for him after they said his mum had just died this week as well. He fought his arse off in defeat. Louis Green first round stoppage of Jack McGann was brutal as well. Just smashed him. -
The PFL Thread š° (March 7th - Doumbe vs. Chamsoudinov)
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Did anyone watch this in the end? With it being on Thursday I nearly forgot about it. It was only thanks to the@Egg Shen post above that I remembered. Really shitty way for the Baki vs Doumbe fight to end. It was the main reason I even made the point of tuning in live, I watched the whole undercard waiting for the main event. When the time finally arrived the atmosphere was off the charts and Doumbe genuinely looked like the biggest star outside the UFC by far. I know it was a home crowd and stuff but you donāt see many fighters even in the UFC who get reactions like that. The fight itself was engrossing while it lasted. Baki looked a handful but I actually liked the bits of defensive grappling Doumbe showed. I had them 1-1 going into the third round and all I could think was āI wish this had 5 rounds to play outā. Then it went all weird in the third. One of the more bizarre endings to a big fight that Iāve ever seen. Doumbe started looking and pointing down at his foot, signalling an injury. Ref Marc Goddard told them to fight on. Then they stopped again, Baki pointed at Doumbeās foot and said something to Goddard and Goddard waved the fight off. Turned out it was a splinter of some sort in Doumbeās toe. Like a shard of glass or something. Why that was in the cage in the first place, I donāt know. Whatās this, deathmatch wrestling? But yeah, massive anti-climax. Goddardās taken a lot of criticism for his call here. And I absolutely get it. It was such a disappointing ending. On the one hand, technically Goddard was right. There wasnāt a foul committed and there are no time outs for an injury like that. Goddard told him to fight on and he didnāt so, technically, he was correct to call it off. Given the circumstances though, the injury wasnāt anything to do with the actual fight and it was caused by something that shouldnāt have been on the canvas to begin with. In a situation like that, it seems extra unfortunate and definitely harsh to call it a TKO win for Baki rather than a No Contest. But if those are the rules, Goddard is going by that. Itās just a shite way for it to end. Maybe this will cause the rules to be amended slightly for cases like this. Doumbe seemed to take it in good spirits and handled it well. He didnāt kick off at Goddard like a lot of fighters probably wouldāve. But man, again, what a letdown. Seems like a no brainer to just do the immediate rematch now though, and itāll be bigger next time with this as the backstory. Really enjoyed the Lazy King vs Jack Grant fight in the co-main. Close one as well. One of my favourite fights so far this year. Some of the grappling scrambles were fantastic and Grant didnāt come to lose or just put on a show. I felt like Lazy mightāve edged it but it was close. Aside from that, Iām not massively familiar with PFLās roster so Iām forgetting their names but there were a bunch of great finishes on the undercard. Including a nasty quick Von Flue choke sub, a quick heel hook which you donāt see often these days and a big uppercut KO. Oh and this proper cracked me up. What was he playing at? š¤£ Good show on the whole but ended on a real downer unfortunately. -
Knockout Chaos: Joshua vs Ngannou - Mar 8 šøš¦š„
wandshogun09 replied to wandshogun09's topic in MMA Forum
Yeah, and from what Iāve seen, most of the gloating is coming from MMA fans. Well, I should say UFC fans because ever since Francis left the UFC thereās been a vocal section of the fanbase thatās been shitting on him and wanting him to fail outside the UFC. Youād think itād be more the hardcore Boxing lot wanting to see his downfall and thereās been some of that. But what Iām seeing, Iāve seen Francis get a decent amount of respect from the Boxing side and itās mostly the UFC/Dana arse rimmers giving him grief. They were just waiting for something like this to happen. I think everyone with eyes knew the way the Tyson fight played out was a bit down to the element of surprise and a lot down to Tyson not taking it 100% seriously. But regardless, Ngannou still fought way better than anyone expected. This AJ fight always felt like bad news though. If nothing else, Iām just glad he got the Fury fight first and it went how it did, so at least he got 2 big fights out of it. Imagine if this AJ fight wouldāve happened first and ended in similar fashion? I know it mightāve been different then because then it wouldāve been Joshua dealing with the unknown and the element of surprise. So he mightnāt have found it quite as easy as he did last night. But I donāt think thereād have been that same level of complacency like there was with Fury. There mightāve been a bit more caution and a longer feeling out process but I think it wouldāve ended the same. If Ngannou fought AJ first he mightāve been āone and doneā in Boxing. Bless him. Genuinely donāt know how anyone can hate on this man. And for all the piss taking heās already got and gonna get in the coming days, weeks, months etc. He won the game. Regardless of the result last night. His dream was to box and he not only got to do that, he got to do it against 2 of the top Heavyweights of this generation, on the biggest stages possible, and made way more money than his whole MMA career combined. From everything heās said before and after the fight, he understands the game and that losses come with the territory sometimes. Heās not a McGregor type whoās gonna self destruct over something like this. Other than the actual results in the record books, Ngannou has got everything he couldāve dreamed of out of his 2 fights in Boxing. Also, UFC fans giving him shit then licking Jon Jonesā arse are hilarious. Like Jones wouldnāt get absolutely smoked by AJ or schooled by Fury. The difference between Ngannou and Jones is, Ngannou had the balls to actually stand by his principles, walk away from the UFC and gamble on himself to chase greatness and his dream in another sport, in his late 30s! Itās been mostly forgotten now but when Jones went through his shit behind the scenes with the UFC and Dana, Ngannou publicly backed him. When the roles were reversed and Ngannou told them to fuck off and actually meant it and acted on it, Jones called Ngannou a pussy and went back to the UFC with his tail between his legs. The man went into Boxing at 36/37 and debuted against Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua in his first 2 fights, within 5 months! And thereās idiots shitting on that? I think I said it after the Fury fight but MMA really doesnāt deserve Francis Ngannou. I know heās insisting heās gonna fight in MMA again and I wouldnāt even be surprised if he takes that Ferreira fight in PFL next. But as much as Iād be up for watching that, part of me doesnāt wanna even see him go back now. Fuck āem. Plus imagine he loses in PFL? The smugness from Dana and UFC boot lickers would be insufferable. Iād love to see him just retire and enjoy his life and money away from all this toxic shite. Go and find a wife and create some little Francisās and Francescaās or whatever. Too good for this shit. -
Knockout Chaos: Joshua vs Ngannou - Mar 8 šøš¦š„
wandshogun09 replied to wandshogun09's topic in MMA Forum
Same here. I donāt know what it is, every time I see this old sod I only get as far as the āletās get ready to rumā¦ā bit of his catchphrase and have to crack open a bottle. -
Knockout Chaos: Joshua vs Ngannou - Mar 8 šøš¦š„
wandshogun09 replied to wandshogun09's topic in MMA Forum
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New TUF announced. Grasso vs Shev 3.
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Knockout Chaos: Joshua vs Ngannou - Mar 8 šøš¦š„
wandshogun09 replied to wandshogun09's topic in MMA Forum
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UFC 299: OāMalley vs Vera 2 - Mar 9 šŗšø
wandshogun09 replied to wandshogun09's topic in MMA Forum
I know I have a pop at her on here for being a boring fighter (and she is) but I feel bad now after watching this. Poor womanās been going through some horrible shit. -
The PFL Thread š° (March 7th - Doumbe vs. Chamsoudinov)
wandshogun09 replied to Egg Shen's topic in MMA Forum
Iām gonna give this a bash. Most Iāve ever looked forward to a PFL show and the start times work. Good stuff. -
Knockout Chaos: Joshua vs Ngannou - Mar 8 šøš¦š„
wandshogun09 replied to wandshogun09's topic in MMA Forum
Fucking hell Zhang, calm down mate weāve all had a drink!