Paid Members WeeAl Posted September 22, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted September 22, 2019 Stephens, shown there getting the blame of those in attendance for being the victim. What an unfortunate way for that to end, for all of those people in both camps that put the effort in to prepare for the fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted September 22, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted September 22, 2019 It was such a crappy end to an otherwise cracking show. A proper downer. Really thought we were in for something a bit special with Yair Rodriguez and Jeremy Stephens. Especially after the way the previous two fights went. It just felt like the card was building to something crazy. Then 15 seconds in, its all over. Huge anti-climax. The post-fight scenes were ugly with the crowd pelting Stephens with rubbish. Never seen anything quite like that at a UFC show. Not good. I get being frustrated with how the fight ended but that was cunty. Itâs that bollocks mentality of the fighter being a pussy for not continuing to fight, even when he canât fucking see. Iâve never liked Stephens but Iâve got zero doubt he couldnât see. He couldnât open the eye for ages. No way any fighter goes through a full training camp and puts in all the time and expense that goes with it to just âquitâ. What was this about as well?... Bisping shouldâve snapped his filthy eye poking fingers. Carla Esparza vs Alexa Grasso was a way better fight than I expected. Esparza is usually boring as fuck to watch but Grasso managed to drag her into the best fight of her career and it was quality. Grassoâs had a few really good fights now in the UFC. This one, the Karolina Kowalkiewicz one in her last fight and I remember the Randa Markos fight being fun as well. I had Grasso winning this, to be honest. Esparza got some takedowns but I thought Grasso was still outworking her from the bottom and felt like she landed more and better on the feet. How Esparza survived that armbar though... Arms arenât supposed to do that. Credit where itâs due. Canât stand Esparza but sheâs tough as fuck. Brandon Moreno vs Askar Askarov was another tremendous fight. I thought this was fantastic and maybe even better than Esparza vs Grasso actually. Really exciting from bell-to-bell. Not sure about the scoring in this one either. On first watch but not scoring particularly closely, I had it for Moreno. Think I gave him 1 and 3. Having it a draw seemed a bit off to me but whatever. Great fight. Iâd like to see a rematch sometime. Shame they never got any kind of bonus for that fight. Thought Irene Aldana had probably her best UFC showing to date against a game Vanessa Melo. Aldana just used her as target practice and Melo took a right beating. Steven Peterson busting out a spinning backfist KO was some way to open up the main card. Easily one of the best knockouts of the year. It was like something off a video game with both throwing backfists at the same time but Petersonâs connected on the money and nearly took Bravoâs head clean off. Kyle Nelson fucking wrecked Polo Reyes in a round. That barrage up against the fence just came out of nowhere. Angela Hillâs elbow...Christ! Not the debut Ariane Carnelossi wouldâve wished for. Decent little fight before that but that elbow in the third just sliced Carnelossi right the fuck open above the eye. Sergio Pettis vs Tyson Nam was OK, nothing special. Pettis looked pretty sharp and he managed to avoid the old late replacement curse. Nam had his moments though and Iâm looking forward to seeing what he can do on a full camp. Paul Craig had his most straight forward and impressive UFC win to date. He looked good. Just battered Moreira. Glad heâs sticking around, seems a good guy. I loved him describing Moreira as doing âthe old Elvis Presley legâ when he was rocked đ Funny show really. The one fight that youâd think was guaranteed to be great ended in 15 seconds on an eye poke but some of the undercard delivered more than I expected, particularly Grasso vs Esparza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) On 9/21/2019 at 10:40 PM, wandshogun09 said: Bisping shouldâve snapped his filthy eye poking fingers I'd already heard that there was a bit of aggro between Bisping and Rodriguez before watching. For a very brief moment, I thought that Rodriguez was climbing the cage after the fight to confront Bisping over something. You can hear Bisping say on commentary "I'm okay, I don't hide Brendan" or something to that effect. Obviously, Bisping was referring to the crap that were being thrown at the cage, and Rodriguez was reacting to being struck by a bottle. It was an utter shitshow. In a way, it was similar to the distasteful comments that Covington made about Matt Hughes. The victim, in this case Stephens, is that much of a dickhead that it is difficult to feel sorry for him. Even though the perpetrators' behaviour, in this case the crowd, was atrocious. They pelted someone who, on the evening in question, had done fuck all wrong.  Edited September 23, 2019 by jimufctna24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted September 22, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted September 22, 2019 Yeah it was just bad vibes all round. Got to say, heat of the moment and all that but I thought Yair came off pretty badly in all that. Of course, the eye poke was unintentional but the way he carried on after that was a bit shitty. Jumping up on the fence celebrating as if heâd won, then getting arsey with Bisping. He was acting like he was the one who was wronged. I get that it was an accident and that both him and Stephens got robbed of a proper fight and both wasted time and money on training for it. I get it. But it was his finger that caused it. On top of that, in his post-fight media scrum heâs acting like Stephens faked the injury. Iâve said loads of times over the years that I canât be doing with Jeremy Stephens. Heâs hardly a sympathetic figure. But Yairâs come off as a cock there to me. Accidents happen but how this getting put on Stephens and becoming a question of his toughness is a load of bollocks. If the fight happened anywhere but Mexico, Yair wouldâve probably got the full heel reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Stephens is many things, but the type of dude who fakes an injury in a fight isn't one of them. He's as hard as they come, to such an extent that it's a big reason why he's a complete knob. In fact, he's probably not far off the infamous BMF scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted September 22, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) Yep. The BMF division is legit. Masvidal - 13 losses, 2-2 in his last 4. Diaz - 11 losses and only fights once every few years. Stephens with his 16 losses is as deserving as any of a crack at that belt. BMFs. On a serious note, depending on how bad Stephensâ eye is, obviously, I wonder how quickly they could set up a rematch. Looking at the upcoming cards, UFC 243 in Aus could certainly do with a fight like Yair vs Stephens. And Boston just lost its Zabit vs Kattar co-main, so thereâs that card too. Whether Stephens would be good to go by Oct 5th or 18th is the question. Edited September 22, 2019 by wandshogun09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) It seems Stephens has responded, and the dude ain't happy... Â Edited September 22, 2019 by David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted September 23, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) The lighter side of the Mexican fans being twats on Saturday night; On a side note, I actually think these two are my favourite commentary team now. They might be better than the PPV team for me. I think Bisping is ace. As much as I like Cormier on commentary, I actually think Iâve enjoyed Bisping more lately. And I wasnât fussed either way on Brendan Fitzgerald but I think him and Bisping have really good chemistry. They worked really well together right off the bat and theyâve got better each time the more familiar theyâve gotten with each other. Iâm pretty much done with Rogan and Cruz is starting to grate on me a bit as well. Edited September 23, 2019 by wandshogun09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted September 25, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted September 25, 2019 Like I said, Yairâs come across as a right twat in all this. What an unexpected heel turn! âYouâll have to live with this all your lifeâ, as if Stephens did something wrong or shameful. Itâs him and his wandering, pokey fingers that caused the fight to be called off. Stephens was on Helwaniâs show on Monday talking about everything, including that little case of handbags there; As much as Iâve disliked Stephens over the years, I actually hope he knocks Yair out if they do fight again. Heâs gone on like a right dickhead in the fallout with his post-fight celebration, his little strop at Bisping and now this shit. And what did Yair get sacked for a while back again? Wasnât it put out at the time that he kept turning down fights? I didnât buy it at the time and I still donât really, but if there is any truth to that then itâs fucking rich him calling Stephensâ courage into question. Stephens is saying he wants to set up the rematch straight away for one of the upcoming cards. Of the choices, I think the Boston show next month would be ideal if he can get cleared in time. That card just lost its co-main (Zabit vs Kattar) as well so itâd slot nicely in there under Reyes vs Weidman and I doubt the Boston fans would feel short changed in the slightest. Anyway, yeah, Yairâs gone full heel for me with this. There was also a video of Cain Velasquez and Brian Ortega celebrating in the crowd when the fight got called off, like Yair had actually done something impressive. Isnât âputoâ a homophobic slur? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 13 hours ago, wandshogun09 said: Isnât âputoâ a homophobic slur? Aye, I believe it means "male prostitute". It's used towards those thought to be cowardly, weak, soft, etc. Based on the context of the video, I assume that Cain and Ortega were making light of the situation and comically implying that Stephens was faking the injury. Still, not a very good look for either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted September 25, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted September 25, 2019 You know it makes sense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted September 26, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted September 26, 2019 it had to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I hope Stephens starches him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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