Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted September 16, 2018 Author Paid Members Share Posted September 16, 2018 Herb Dean's not the worst referee about but I've long felt that this rep he seems to have as the best ref in the game is unwarranted. He's made some shocking calls over the years and this was one of the worst. He's never been anywhere near as good as John McCarthy. And now Big John's retired, Marc Goddard is by far the best referee these days for me. Very rare he makes an iffy call, he takes charge when needed, he's decisive but he's fair and doesn't take any shit either. He's usually a safe pair of hands with stoppages as well. I'm sure there has been the odd bad call made by him but I can't ever recall seeing him let a fighter take a load of unnecessary abuse like Dolloway did on Herb's watch here. I like Herb Dean generally and he seems a nice enough guy but he's been overrated as a referee for some time IMO. Anyway, yeah, not the best of shows. Not the worst either though. It's going to take some doing for a show to be worse than that crap Shogun vs Smith card the other month in the Shittest UFC Of The Year stakes. Like Ebb says, this wasn't even particularly bad. Just nothing really caught fire. It happens. Oleynik vs Hunt was always ending one of two ways. You never really know in MMA but I was as sure as it's possible to be that this was definitely ending either by a Hunt KO or a Oleynik submission. Thought Oleynik was well on his way to unconsciousness but Hunt seemed to get a bit too comfy in there and Oleynik got him. Oleynik's really grown on me the last few years. As great and necessary as the evolution of MMA is and that nearly everyone is well rounded these days, I do still love a specialist like Oleynik. And Hunt really. This was like a proper throwback SEG era style vs style fight. Blachowicz looked good. Like I said in the OP, this was always a tough welcome back fight for Krylov. Blachowicz is someone I've been disinterested in for most of his UFC run but he's looked good in his last two. He had that great fight with Manuwa in London earlier this year and now this. He seems to have turned a corner this year. Arlovski vs Abdurakhimov went how I feared it might. Slow, plodding, and a bit of a dud to watch all round. And Arlovski lost which made it even worse Kunchenko vs Alves wasn't bad. Decent opener that never really went out of second gear. Don't really know what to make of this. It's a good name win for the undefeated Kunchenko but I'm not sure what Alves has left at this point so hard to get a read on how good a win this was. Still, not bad for a debut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross18 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 I missed some of the prelims cause I was at football. But definitely recommend checking out Yan v Son. Cracking fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted September 16, 2018 Author Paid Members Share Posted September 16, 2018 I didn't see the prelims but checked the results. How did Yan look? I was hoping he'd get on the main card of this, sounds like it was the kind of fight the main card needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted September 16, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted September 16, 2018 Might be with you on Herb Dean wand. Think he always got away with stuff because he had Mazagatti and Yamasaki around at the same time who were always on the recieving end of the backlash. You cant look at last night stoppage and not scratch your head. What the hell was he thinking? Heres a bit of out of the box thinking for Blachowicz, what if DC vacates and the UFC go with Gustaffsson/Blachowicz for the 205lb belt in New York at some point next year? (There has to be New York dates pencilled in). If anyone saw last weeks Showtime boxing card you'll know that the Polish population in New York go nuts for its fighters. If the pecking order isnt sorted by then i could see them entertaining that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross18 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, wandshogun09 said: I didn't see the prelims but checked the results. How did Yan look? I was hoping he'd get on the main card of this, sounds like it was the kind of fight the main card needed. Yeah was definitely a fight the main card needed. Yan looked really good. His striking is fantastic. Yan threw everything at Son but he just kept coming forward, with a smile on his face no less. No idea how he stayed up, but then he trains out of Korean Zombie's gym (who was in his corner) so can imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted September 16, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted September 16, 2018 There was a couple of fights here that deserved main card billing. I understand why a guy like Arlovski gets the billing but hes been stinking it up rotten recently, im about off the Arlovski wagon. At least he isnt getting KO'd anymore though. Mairbek Taisumov deserved the slot if anyone, 5 fight win streak before last night, 5 finishes and he still plays second fiddle to a debuting Russian and a washed Thiago Alvez, baffling. Petr Yan did grab $100,000 in bonus money though because Son missed weight. Not a bad nights work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted September 16, 2018 Author Paid Members Share Posted September 16, 2018 Yeah, I'd have had the Taisumov and Yan fights on the main card over the Arlovski and Alves fights. I get that the latter two are names but at some point you have to move on. They've both been on the decline for a while and you have to shine the light on the new blood if you ever expect people to give a shit about them. There's every chance the likes of Taisumov, Yan, Ankalaev etc become contenders in their respective divisions at some point. And when they make it and they're put in a title fight or something everyone will go 'Who?' because they've been buried down on Fight Pass forever. How they expect these prospects to catch on when they're very rarely in prominent positions on the cards, I don't know. If nobody sees them, they don't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted September 16, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted September 16, 2018 That 2004-2010 sort of era of guys still holds weight with fans, it's the time where there were less fights and everyone on the card were popular in their own right, it's allowing alot of those guys to have prolonged runs. For proof, look no further than Thiago Alves last night, they referenced him KO'ing Matt Hughes several times on the broadcast like that sort of form would play any sort of part in last nights fight, that was over 10 f'n years ago, crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 29 minutes ago, Egg Shen said: f'n Come on, man, you've made such progress. Let's hope it's a lapse and not a relapse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted September 16, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted September 16, 2018 Its a f'n relapse edit: or is it 'an f'n relapse'? 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Or, was it a callback to the Ebb of 10 years ago?? I'm sure you all do anyway, but Marc Goddard is brilliant on Twitter. He answers a lot of queries that fans have and gives a real insight to the way a ref views a fight. He is well worth a follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted September 16, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted September 16, 2018 It may have been. Unintentional if it was. Yeah, i like Goddard. He's definitely the main man now John McCarthey has buggered off to Bellator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted September 17, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted September 17, 2018 Not a clue what Herb was up to here. He will probably argue that the downed opponent was blocking a lot of shots with his gloves, but he was clearly done by that point. Poor Mark Hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 On the Herb Dean situation, he did let the fight go on too long, but it's hardly as bad as everyone is making out. It's not as though the guy was out cold and taking undefended shots to the face, is it? He was defending and absorbing most of the shots on his arms, and a few times just as it looked like the fight should be called he either moved and managed to shift position or the offensive fighter changed position and stopped his attack momentarily. Not the best showing from Herb, but hardly something worthy of suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted September 19, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted September 19, 2018 I ain't sure Dave. When someone goes belly down and covers their head they are in a spot where they are basically conceding defeat, I think that point you have to pull someone out, especially when the fighter was looking tired before finding himself in that position. I read earlier that Dean allowed Dolloway to get rained on for 26 seconds, that's too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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