Krytie 2X4B 523P Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 What was that Tout thing WWE used to go on about? Was that their own attempt at competing with Vine and Twitter or was there some sponsorship deal going on? Â Not a WWE creation but they/Vince invested a lot of money in the company and Stephanie McMahon was on the board (maybe she still is). Â Outside of WWE I never hear of Tout anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Fandango and Zack Ryder have both been a case of WWE dropping the ball with Internet popularity. Yeah Ryder was a bit shit, but he could have easily been a Santino level guy. Usually milling around the bottom and occasionally stepping into the spotlight to pop the crowd.  They did try with Fandango, but they didn't understand how to naturally let it grow  Ryder was far too useless to ever thrive in the Santino type role. Santino often elevated whatever shite he was doing. Ryder was bad enough that he was very clearly the worst element in a Kanecrap storyline. They should have given him more of a go than he got, really, because that storyline was going to fuck him sideways no matter how good he was. But he validated their opinion of him with his performances in it anyway.  There was no way of naturally letting the Fandangoing fad grow. It was a total flash in the pan, they milked it as much as they could, and it's debatable to what extent it ever translated to the wrestler in the first place -- but they did seem to have plans for him up until he got injured a few weeks later and they wrote him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Kat Von D Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Â Â Fandango and Zack Ryder have both been a case of WWE dropping the ball with Internet popularity. Yeah Ryder was a bit shit, but he could have easily been a Santino level guy. Usually milling around the bottom and occasionally stepping into the spotlight to pop the crowd. Â They did try with Fandango, but they didn't understand how to naturally let it grow Ryder was far too useless to ever thrive in the Santino type role. Santino often elevated whatever shite he was doing. Ryder was bad enough that he was very clearly the worst element in a Kanecrap storyline. They should have given him more of a go than he got, really, because that storyline was going to fuck him sideways no matter how good he was. But he validated their opinion of him with his performances in it anyway. Â There was no way of naturally letting the Fandangoing fad grow. It was a total flash in the pan, they milked it as much as they could, and it's debatable to what extent it ever translated to the wrestler in the first place -- but they did seem to have plans for him up until he got injured a few weeks later and they wrote him off. Not saying Ryder could have performed as well as Santino, but the role he was put was drastically wrong for him. He was ignored then set up to fail. Was there any point he was handled well at all? Â WWE could have done a load of things with Fandango, but they managed to make it very lame very quickly by forcing it down everyone's throats. It was a massive misfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Ryder's been handled appropriately since the Kane feud, now he's positioned accordingly with his shitness. Before that, there was a spell of about a month or two prior to TLC 2011 where they got him right. Â When people started singing Fandango's music at football matches and the like, WWE's only options were either to ignore it or mention it. Whichever one they picked, it wasn't lasting longer than a few weeks anyway unless the wrestler himself got massively popular. And they're fucked either way on things like that. If they do mention stuff, people get upset that WWE mentioned it so it's not "cool" and anti-WWE anymore. And if they don't mention it (like when they didn't show anything of Daniel Bryan being in some parade that's massive in the US), people get upset that WWE is ignoring their special things and trying to silence the real fans. They're always far better off mentioning the things, because it creates a veneer of pop culture acceptance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass Smash Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Ryder's been handled appropriately since the Kane feud    And that feud was only set up to get Eve Torres over as a heel. Ryder was just the bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 They missed the boat on the RKO vines fad, didn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members herbie747 Posted March 8, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted March 8, 2015 They missed the boat on the RKO vines fad, didn't they? They probably ignored it because it wasn't done on Tout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted March 8, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted March 8, 2015 Even though he didn't return for months after the Vine fad, I still think they'd have been better off just having Orton hitting RKOs on everyone in the Authority leading into his match with Rollins at Wrestlemania. Every week he hits someone else with one, in weirder and funnier scenarios, putting everyone on the shelf until Seth is left on his own. Â At the very least it wouldve been better to this shitty storyline where they're teaming together again, before the eventual turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Kat Von D Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Sorry Pictico, I disagree with you. Â I will agree they dropped the ball with Orton, but in comparison it's not as bad as fucking up Ryder and Fandango. Orton is a made man already. His name is more familiar with the general public now, but his career wasn't dependant on it. He would have been fine without it. Ryder and Fandango on the other hand needed all the help they could get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Arch Stanton Posted March 8, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted March 8, 2015 Fandango was never going to be anything more than he is now, the brief Fandangoing phenomenon was fun but there was nowhere to take it. Ryder could have been so much more based on the fanbase that he built for himself online, but once he did make it into featured segments on TV he was exposed as a bit of a plank. For some reason, the contagious likeability he showed in his Z! True Long Island Story web show just did not translate on Raw and SmackDown. Maybe it was because he was having to work from scripts, but that's the same for everybody so it's no excuse. Dolph Ziggler is much the same, comes across as fairly charismatic off screen, but when he's on camera any personality evaporates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Even though he didn't return for months after the Vine fad, I still think they'd have been better off just having Orton hitting RKOs on everyone in the Authority leading into his match with Rollins at Wrestlemania. Every week he hits someone else with one, in weirder and funnier scenarios, putting everyone on the shelf until Seth is left on his own. Â At the very least it wouldve been better to this shitty storyline where they're teaming together again, before the eventual turn. Â Yeah, it would be much better -- but at this point, Roman Reigns needs the battering-everyone rub more. He looked great on Raw. Â They should have done it before Orton left, for sure. Similar to that time DX were terrified of Austin prior to Backlash 2000, there could've been a Raw built around the Authority being scared of Orton. One by one, Kane, Mercury and Noble (and maybe some hanger-on who is attached for a week as cannon fodder) get taken out by RKOs in wacky scenarios, before it somehow ends up with Rollins injuring Orton at the end of the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.PeterVenkman Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Even though he didn't return for months after the Vine fad, I still think they'd have been better off just having Orton hitting RKOs on everyone in the Authority leading into his match with Rollins at Wrestlemania. Every week he hits someone else with one, in weirder and funnier scenarios, putting everyone on the shelf until Seth is left on his own. Â At the very least it wouldve been better to this shitty storyline where they're teaming together again, before the eventual turn. Not that they're scared of reusing old ideas but that is pretty much what he did in the build up for his Mania match with Punk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I don't think anyone remembers the specifics of that anymore anyway. The only thing worthwhile about the terrible Orton vs Punk/New Nexus feud is knowing how upset Punk was through the whole thing that he wasn't feuding with Cena for the title instead of Miz getting it. The best part of that is that even when Miz was clearly just a background player to Cena/Rock, you know Punk was still too myopic to even consider it a lucky escape. Â Thank heavens it went the way it did. Imagine if Punk-Cena had been the match/secondary feud of the Mania main event that year. They'd have not had the summer feud on top of it, and Punk would've just sodded off in July probably. The next two and a half years would have been so different. We'd have got Cena vs Del Rio another twenty or thirty times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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