Paid Members FLips Posted September 7, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted September 7, 2014 You've confused the hackers with the Redditors who looked at the photos, haven't you? 4chan is a cesspool but Reddit is getting closer and closer. They may not have been the hackers on Reddit but they're mostly responsible for the public sharing and encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freaky Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I read on the Huffington Post that some of the the celebrities who've been victims of this may have a problem getting the photos taken down as the copyright of the photo is owned by the person who took the photo - not who is in the image or whose phone was used to take it. That means if the picture was taken by an ex that they may not like or be in contact with anymore, it may not be removed. Likewise, if the photographer is okay with it being used, there's nothing the victim can do about it. It's the same issue with that celebrity selfie at the Oscars that was on Ellen's phone - technically the image belongs to Bradley Cooper as he took the picture, so if he wanted to charge sites or newspapers to use it, he would be within his rights and Ellen wouldn't have a say or claim to any of the revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted September 7, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted September 7, 2014 You've confused the hackers with the Redditors who looked at the photos, haven't you? Clearly I have. Whoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Surf Digby Posted September 7, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted September 7, 2014 I read on the Huffington Post that some of the the celebrities who've been victims of this may have a problem getting the photos taken down as the copyright of the photo is owned by the person who took the photo - not who is in the image or whose phone was used to take it. That means if the picture was taken by an ex that they may not like or be in contact with anymore, it may not be removed. Likewise, if the photographer is okay with it being used, there's nothing the victim can do about it. It's the same issue with that celebrity selfie at the Oscars that was on Ellen's phone - technically the image belongs to Bradley Cooper as he took the picture, so if he wanted to charge sites or newspapers to use it, he would be within his rights and Ellen wouldn't have a say or claim to any of the revenue. Copyright is an absolute minefield in cases like this. Ellen could argue that in passing her phone to Cooper and asking him to take the picture, she was commissioning him to take in on her behalf, in which case she would still be able to claim herself as the author and copyright holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted September 8, 2014 Moderators Share Posted September 8, 2014 I wanna see the pictures of the woman off 8 Simple Rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 It's the same issue with that celebrity selfie at the Oscars that was on Ellen's phone - technically the image belongs to Bradley Cooper as he took the picture, so if he wanted to charge sites or newspapers to use it, he would be within his rights and Ellen wouldn't have a say or claim to any of the revenue. What's the point of models signing release forms then? Lister to thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Surf Digby Posted September 8, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted September 8, 2014 Model releases are for releasing the rights to their image as intellectual property. Models (usually) aren't usually copyright holders in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yes, so how can you profit from someone's image if they haven't signed a release for you to do so? What is it that separates a paparazzi photo from an official photoshoot/film where the talent signs a release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refused Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yes, so how can you profit from someone's image if they haven't signed a release for you to do so? What is it that separates a paparazzi photo from an official photoshoot/film where the talent signs a release? I think they usually get around it by claiming that it's in "public interest", along with there being less expectation of privacy in public places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted September 9, 2014 Moderators Share Posted September 9, 2014 I wanna see the pictures of the woman off 8 Simple Rules. You're all banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 You're not missing much. A video/gif of her getting up off the toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted September 9, 2014 Moderators Share Posted September 9, 2014 Yeah. That's still not linking me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Well we can't post links in here, and your PM box is full. Google her name and leaked nudes, first result should be a Reddit thread about an old rock band. Vid link is in that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members herbie747 Posted September 12, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted September 12, 2014 Yes, so how can you profit from someone's image if they haven't signed a release for you to do so? What is it that separates a paparazzi photo from an official photoshoot/film where the talent signs a release? You're allowed to photograph anyone in a public place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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