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[HeavyT]

Yeah I found him on that boxing to be a bit embarassing. It's just too corny of a style for serious combat sports, although I did think he'd be quite suited to MMA. I'll have to give it a watch to see how he got on for myself

[Noah Southworth]

I think Jim Ross just needs more experience with MMA, watch a lot of different types of fights and get used to it. Given time, I think he could make a great MMA announcer.

 

I think Melvin Manhoef would have offered a shot in the UFC if he'd made the effort to get some kind of ground game, which is pretty much the main reason he's never been considered for a deal, because he's too one-dimensional. I also think he'd likely not have taken it because he seems too much into kickboxing to become a UFC exclusive fighter, which is what he'd have become had he signed with them.

[Egg Shen]

avoiding shit on this thread for now cause im yet to see the Battlegrounds PPV (im behind), but Bellator this week is gonna be quality...

 

 

unification fight and the return of Michael Page! i love how they've included him on the poster

[DJM]

the return of Michael Page! i love how they've included him on the poster

 

Nah-Shon Burrell should give him his first challenge as well. If Page manages to walk through him like he has done to his previous six opponents then I will be impressed (that is not to say I have not been impressed by what he has done in his other six fights though).

[Egg Shen]

Page's problem is he lacks momentum, he has a fight then seems to disappear for ages. Coker needs to keep that boy busy.

[Noah Southworth]

It's time for Bellator's latest offering.

 

Emiliano Sordi (185.1lbs, 12-4) vs. Bubba McDaniel (185.8lbs, 22-8) kicked the main card off and McDaniel opened up right away by going for a takedown; Sordi blocked it and in the resultant scramble, Sordi caught McDaniel in an arm-in guillotine. Sordi was then able to quickly let go of his hand and slip his arm under the arm of McDaniel to make it a full guillotine and McDaniel tapped out in 58-seconds.

 

Tiger Sarnavskiy (157.6lbs, 28-2) vs. Dakota Cochrane (160lbs, 17-6) was next and Cochrane took a beating in this short fight, taking punches, jabs and then a flying knee, which knocked Cochrane down and Sarnavsky quickly took the back of Cochrane and applied a rear naked choke to get the tap in 2:32.

 

With two quick fights in a row, we had time for a preliminary fight with Andreas Michailidis (184.8lbs, 5-1) vs. Jason Butcher (185.2, 7-1). This was a good fight with Michailidis starting off hot, and even dropping Butcher, but Butcher coming back with the ground game and it seemed clear that Michailidis had no answer for it, and early in the second, Butcher got the mount on Michailidis and rained down elbows to get the TKO stoppage.

 

Note to Jason Herzog; if a fighter grabs the cage, how about enforcing the rules and taking a point off instead of getting physically involved? It comes off as you wanting to be part of the action rather than do your job. Also, when you’re pulling one fighter off of another because they’re beating the crap out of an opponent not intelligently defending themselves, you have to actually pull them off and don’t shove them aside with your ribs in an attempt to avoid touching them with your hands at all costs.

 

Nah-Shon Burrell (171lbs, 10-4) vs. Michael Page (170.9lbs, 6-0) saw the highly touted showman Michael Page back in action and this fight absolutely sucked. It was terrible, all thanks to Burrell whose strategy was to hold Page against the cage, or just hold onto him in general, and do nothing; he just held on and held on and held on and, well, you get the idea. Page didn’t help things, though, because he was content to play counterfighter and when you’re facing someone who will do virtually nothing on offense, it makes for a terrible fight. This is an easy contender for worst fight of the year.

 

We’re back to the preliminary fights with Emmanuel Sanchez (145.8lbs, 8-1) vs. Stephan Banaszak (145.9lbs, 3-3) and it started off slow but after a mad ground scramble, Sanchez got a hold of Banaszak and he was able to get him down and he began working for a rear naked choke and he ended up getting more of a neck crank but it was effective as it got the tap out

 

Eduardo Dantes © (134.8lbs, 16-3) vs. Joe Warren (134.4lbs, 11-3) was the main event of the evening with Dantes defending the Bantamweight title against the interim Bantamweight champion Joe Warren. The first round was pretty much all Warren pressing Dantes against the cage in a Greco Roman clinch, as well as throwing some decent strikes, so that one was 10-9 for Warren. The second round was mostly Dantes as Warren had trouble getting the clinch or the takedown, and Dantes was able to get his strikes going, including a spinning back first and an elbow off the clinch, as well as, early in the round, getting Warren pressed up against the cage whilst in a sitting position. There were more warnings from referee John McCarthy and more nothing done about rule infractions, as well. The third round was the most competitive one so far and it was very much a case of when they were striking, Dantes was winning, and when they were clinching and grappling, Warren was coming out on top, and Warren was able to do a little more of what he wanted due to taking Dantes down with about a minute to go and controlling from there. The fourth round was mostly even but Warren had the slight edge due to controlling things more with his grappling, though Dantes landed some nice strikes here and there. However, right near the end of the round, Dantes landed a big knee on Warren than had Warren backing up and clearly hurt him, and it was the most significant blow of the round by a wide margin, so that may be enough of win the round for Dantes. That makes it tougher to call but I’m still inclined to go with Warren for this round because he had the great control of the action and was able to do more of what he wanted. I will say, though, that with better follow up from Dantes after that big knee near the end, that I would likely have given him the round instead. Early in the fifth, they Dantes and Warren ended up against the fence on the ground in a weird position that can best be described as Warren having Dantes’ arms pinned behind his back as if going for a Tiger suplex, but with Warren pressed against the cage; from here, Warren kicked at the face of Dantes, and finally, John McCarthy stepped in when someone broke the rules, which this time out was Warren kicking the head of a downed opponent. McCarthy also didn’t stand for Warren’s bullshit claim that he was just kicking off the fence. With the action stopped, McCarthy called in the doctor to check on a cut that the kick from Warren opened by the right eye of Dantes, but the fight was allowed to continue with McCarthy warning Warren that he’d get points taken off if he did anything else, and Warren again claiming he was just pushing off the cage. Yeah, right, Joe(!). The rest of the fifth round was very competitive, Warren again continuously going for the clinch and the takedown, and Dantes trying to defend against it and doing so for the most part, but Warren was able eventually get Dantes and control him from there for the most part, but Dantes briefly reversed positions near the end and never gave up fighting. It was another close round and as much as I’d like to score this one for Dantes, I can’t, and I have Warren winning 49-46. The judges all see it 48-47 for the winner and now Bellator bantamweight champion, Joe Warren.

 

John McCarthy is a great referee but if you’re having to warn a fighter more than twice about grabbing the cage and you’re feeling the need to pull their hand off the cage, how about docking them a point like you’re supposed to? Why are referees scared of deducting points for repeatedly grabbing the fence?

 

In any event, apart from the absolutely horrible Page vs. Burrell fight, this was a pretty good night of action; a pair of quick, explosive finishes, a pair of decent preliminary fights, and a main event that was really good for the most part.

[Noah Southworth]

World Series of Fighting 14

 

Luke Harris (205.1lbs, 10-2) vs. Jared Hamman (204.5lbs, 13-6 ) started the night off and Hamman punched the crap out of Luke Harris, who showed zero head movement and strike defence in what was virtually a one-sided hammering. At least the night started off with a bang, albeit a one-sided one.

 

Chris Horodecki (145.7lbs, 20-5) vs. Luis Huete (145lbs, 6-1) was next. The first round was uneventful, mostly Horodecki holding Huete down and staying busy enough to avoid being stood up, but doing no more than that. The second round was pretty much a replication of the first. The third round was also the same, except for the final minute, after being stood up, when both fighters decided to throw leather and it was easily the most excitement and action of what was a very unengaging fight, which Horodecki won with 30-27 on all three scorecards.

 

Smealinho Rama (235.5lbs, 8-1) vs. Derrick Mehmen (243lbs, 18-5) is the co-main event and it is for the inaugural WSOF heavyweight title. Rama almost took Mehmen down right away; at the 32-second mark, Rama nailed Mehmen with a punch that had Mehmen rocked and Rama just poured it on with vicious strikes and whilst Mehmen got back up after being knocked down the first time, he couldn’t repeat the feat a second time and Rama got the TKO victory in just 51-seconds.

 

Ryan Ford (171.5lbs, 22-4)vs. Jake Shields (171lbs, 29-7-1) is the main event of the evening. Ford dropped Shields very quickly but didn’t rush in and Shields was able to get back to his feet. Shields tried for a takedown but Ford, after much effort, was able to stay standing and get away. After almost a minute of clinching and both men throwing knees, Shields was able to get Ford down to the mat and in the Mark Coleman’s headlock crank position. From here, Shields moved to the full mount and after punches that were clearly to the back of the head and saw the referee not even warn Shields about, Ford gave up his back and Shields began working for a rear naked choke; Ford defended well but he couldn’t keep it up forever, and just ebfore the end of the round, Shields got the rear naked choke fully applied and Ford tapped at 4:29.

 

We have time enough left for a preliminary fight, with Hakeem Dawodu (145.8lbs, 2-0) vs. Mike Malott (147.5lbs, 4-0) and it was a decent fight, mostly standing except for a moment when Malott was able to take Dawodu down and  take his back, in one move. Dawodu was soon back to his feet and it was clear soon after that he was the more powerful strike and he was rocking Malott, pressing him against the cage and really unloading with punches, and the referee stepped in and stopped the fight in a rare instance of a fighter being stopped whilst still standing.

 

Overall, I’d put WSOF 14 on par with Bellator 128; it didn’t have a fight as good as Dantes vs. Warren, but it also didn’t have a fight that was in the same universe of sucking as Page vs. Burrell, and they both had three fights with great first round finishes.

[Egg Shen]

vintage Jake Shields...its almost disheartening to see him suck the life out of an exciting fighter like Ryan Ford but that's what he does.

 

Dantes/Warren was a tremendous title fight, fight of the weekend for sure. As for Burrell/Page, i guess when you see what Michael Page can do you can't fault Burrell's gameplan, it was his lack of success once in the clinch or when he had Page on the mat which sucked. Glad Page won though, Bellator are gonna have to be careful with their matchmaking with the guy,

[Egg Shen]

Ryan Ford has come out now and stated that he fought Jake Shields with a broken arm on Saturday night, a lot of people are saying it's him just making excuses that he's released a video that was apparently taking before Saturday night showing him discuss the broken arm and that shows him sparring using one arm.

 

http://www.mmamania.com/2014/10/12/6964623/ryan-ford-releases-video-photo-x-ray-proving-fought-jake-shields-wsof-14-broken-arm-mma

 

the fact that Ford decided to take the fight is absolute madness, it's ruffled some feathers because people don't understand how the doctors/medicals could have cleared him to fight.

[wandshogun09]

Yeah if he's telling the truth, and the commission/doctors missed it, fuck me. How do you miss a broken arm? If something as relatively obvious as that goes undetected imagine more serious problems like guys with head injuries and concussions and stuff? If they're not picking up that a guy has a broken arm, guys could be going in half-concussed and all sorts.

 

Only just seen Warren vs Dantas. Great fight. Nova Uniao's having a shite year, aren't they? Makes you wonder if it's a bad omen for Aldo in a couple of weeks.

[Egg Shen]

yep, you have to give props to Joe Warren. The whole 'Baddest Man on the Planet' thing makes him the butt of a few jokes but it's always been done a little tongue in cheek so he kind of gets away with it and despite some short coming's as a fighter the guy's tenacity and heart rivals any other fighters in the sport without doubt, he's also creating a pretty awesome legacy as far as quality fights go, Warren fights never lack drama and despite some horrid setbacks in the cage he's still battling, guy's a warrior.

 

...and lets not be forgetting he beat KID Yamamoto in his 2nd pro MMA fight.

[Egg Shen]

tonight:

 

 

 

• Paul Bradley vs. Josh Neer
• Houston Alexander vs. Virgil Zwicker
• Andre Santos vs. James Terry
• Davin Clark vs. Joe Vedepo

 

bit of a routine type show, compared to some of the shows they've been putting on recently this one looks a little thin, but it's a quiet MMA weekend so im in...for my money it's the first ever Bellator show with absolutely no tournament ties? i think so anyway.

 

It was initially meant to be Houston Alexander against James Thompson which probably would have peaked morbid curiosity but Thompson pulled out. Always in to see Josh Neer fight too, the main event is two Iown natives fighting in Iowa too, so expect some noisy ass fans.

[the_mole]

Spike TV's is to launch in the UK, expect Bellator to be on there, it will be on freeview by the way .http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2014/10/15/viacom-to-launch-spike-tv-in-the-u-k/

 

Bellator could put a pretty good UK show on if they wanted too,with Liam McGreary, Michael Page & Paul Daley as main card fighters,

[Noah Southworth]

Bellator 129

 

Davin Clark (185.1lbs, 5-1-2) vs. Joe Vedepo (185.3lbs, 16-8) had a dull first round with Vedepo holding Clark down and doing virtually nothing with it. Round two was similar in style, but this time around, Vedepo was constantly working for chokes, so it was a little more exciting. Round three started out the same, with Vedepo taking Clark down, but Vedepo was able to get Clark flattened out and whilst he wasn’t landing heavy hammerfists, he landed them for long enough that the referee warned Clark he had to defend himself and when he didn’t, the referee stepped in to stop the fight. As with every fighter in that situation, Clark was complaining, but also as with every fighter in that situation, he had no room to complain because he wasn’t defending himself and just being able to take shots does not count as intelligently defending yourself.

 

Andre Santos (170.6lbs, 36-9) vs. James Terry (170.6lbs, 14-7) saw the submission fighter engage the wrestler in what ended up being a fight competed almost entirely standing up. It was fairly sloppy for the most part; Terry landed some good shots near the end of the second round, whilst Santos had Terry in trouble in the third and also tried going for a kimura when the fight was briefly on the ground. It was a close fight that ended up going to Santos with 30-27 on all three scorecards. Terry wasn’t too happy but the fight was close enough that 30-27 for Santos is a viable score to give.

 

Virgil Zwicker (215lbs, 12-4) vs. Houston Alexander (206.4lbs, 16-10) was the co-main event of the evening. It was a worse version of the prior fight; sloppier stand up with Zwicker, admittedly a late replacement, gassing bad by the end of the second round, and Alexander not doing much better. There were some big hits landed but it was still sloppy shit; the only real highlight was Alexander, whilst having Zwicker down, and in top control, landing an ‘accidental’ headbutt in the second and third rounds. The second saw Alexander claim he was aiming for the chest of Zwicker, but that was complete bullshit, and it still would have been illegal anyway. Alexander was deducted a point for the second headbutt, which he warned Alexander he would do, and it’s great to see a referee actually follow up with threats of a point deduction; I’d like to see more of it. It wound up costing Alexander the fight because the scores were 29-28 for Alexander and two 28-28s, which meant it was a majority draw; without the point deduction, the two judges who had it a draw would have given the fight to Alexander and he’d have won the unanimous decision.

 

Paul Bradley (170.6lbs, 21-6) vs. Josh Neer (170.6lbs, 36-13-1) was the main event of the evening. The first round was beyond dull; Bradley took Neer down early on and stayed on top, and whether it was Bradley not able or willing to do anything more than stay busy just enough to stop from being stood up, nothing really happened, other than somewhere, Neer getting a cut above his left eye. The second round was the same as the first, minus the cut, but was somehow even duller. The third round started out standing but was soon back on the ground and we had two very boring minutes in the same vein as the first round. Finally, things got moderately interesting with 90-seconds to go as Bradley began trying to get the back of Neer; he did and managed to get a rear-naked choke but as Neer stood up, Bradley let go of the choke and took Neer back down and it was the same dull story as we’d seen in the prior two rounds. This fight was boring as hell; Bradley easily took Neer down but was completely unable to do anything with it, and because Neer couldn’t do anything, it made for a very dull fight. Bradley took it 30-27 on all three scorecards.

 

The only real interesting thing about this fight occurred afterwards; as soon as the fight over, Neer began bitching long and loud about the referee, John McCarthy, not standing the fight up because of inactivity, and Neer and his corner were upset to the point that they all refused to shake hands with the corner of Bradley, and Neer was still bitching as the show went off the air. As a bitch fit, it was remarkable, and it was the only remarkable thing all fight and all night. Avoid this show like the plague; a complete waste of time.

[Egg Shen]

Quite glad i missed it now...Josh Neer isnt known as the unofficial 3rd Diaz brother for nothing.

 

In the Legacy show did anyone see Damacio Pages KO? Fucking hell