Paid Members Up Chuck Posted September 26, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted September 26, 2011 And that hardly detracted from the episode. In fact, I'd say that was the best episode of the series so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiffy Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Yeah it was a blinder. I quite liked saturdays too though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew "the ref" coyne Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Just read this on another forum. A theory about the ending:  Could the Doctor who is killed in TIA be a ganger, killed by the Real Doctor in the astronaught suit, in order to fool the world that he is actually dead. That way he can spend season 7 in peace having a honeymoon with River, occasionally popping in to Amy and Rory as a visit to the in-laws?  Sounds weird I know but for some strange reason I had this thought in my head when I woke up this morning and have only just remembered it now!  Although I doubt the idea of him "popping in" to see Amy and Rory, and that the ganger thing has already been brought up... I do like the idea that The Doctor could be using this as a massive ploy to fake his own death and disapear for a while. After all if your a time traveler and your enemies "know" the precise time of your death, they arn't coming after you are they? After all why chase a guy whose death you already "know" is a fixed point in time.  Xmas special spoiler: SPOILER - Highlight the black box to read In fact considering leaked photos of the Xmas special show the Doctor wearing a space suit... there is certainly some substance to this theory.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 That's a pretty selfish sacrifice of a ganger, not in tune with the Doctors feelings as regards gangers. Amy's aside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Jaffa Posted September 27, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted September 27, 2011 Would a ganger regenerate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew "the ref" coyne Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 That's a pretty selfish sacrifice of a ganger, not in tune with the Doctors feelings as regards gangers. Amy's aside. Â Well the Doctor HAS done selfish things in the past. As you say, he melted one before to save Amy. Â Its just interesting how in the Impossible Astronaut, the Doctor approached the astronaut quiet calmly, almost as if he fully knew, expect it was coming. Maybe its a remote controlled ganger with the real doctor safely tucked away in the Tardis. Â Now that I think about it, River HAS to kill the doctor so that she can be arrested for it. Â Ah I guess we will find out in just a few short days. Â And to answer Brownie, as I understand it, yes a ganger possible could regenerate, but when we saw the Doctor "die", we clearly saw him get shot a second time, thus stopping the regeneration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted September 27, 2011 Awards Moderator Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) That's a pretty selfish sacrifice of a ganger, not in tune with the Doctors feelings as regards gangers. Amy's aside. Â Well the Doctor HAS done selfish things in the past. As you say, he melted one before to save Amy. Â Its just interesting how in the Impossible Astronaut, the Doctor approached the astronaut quiet calmly, almost as if he fully knew, expect it was coming. Maybe its a remote controlled ganger with the real doctor safely tucked away in the Tardis. Â Â Of course he did. Did you not see the last episode? It was all about him knowing he was going to die the following day! Or have I misunderstood? Edited September 27, 2011 by HarmonicGenerator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew "the ref" coyne Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 That's a pretty selfish sacrifice of a ganger, not in tune with the Doctors feelings as regards gangers. Amy's aside. Â Well the Doctor HAS done selfish things in the past. As you say, he melted one before to save Amy. Â Its just interesting how in the Impossible Astronaut, the Doctor approached the astronaut quiet calmly, almost as if he fully knew, expect it was coming. Maybe its a remote controlled ganger with the real doctor safely tucked away in the Tardis. Â Â Of course he did. Did you not see the last episode? It was all about him knowing he was going to die the following day! Â Well yes, and your quite right to pull me up on it. I was more referring to the calmness he handled it with, as if it was all part of a plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Jaffa Posted September 27, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted September 27, 2011 That's a pretty selfish sacrifice of a ganger, not in tune with the Doctors feelings as regards gangers. Amy's aside. Â Well the Doctor HAS done selfish things in the past. As you say, he melted one before to save Amy. Â Its just interesting how in the Impossible Astronaut, the Doctor approached the astronaut quiet calmly, almost as if he fully knew, expect it was coming. Maybe its a remote controlled ganger with the real doctor safely tucked away in the Tardis. Â Now that I think about it, River HAS to kill the doctor so that she can be arrested for it. Â Ah I guess we will find out in just a few short days. Â And to answer Brownie, as I understand it, yes a ganger possible could regenerate, but when we saw the Doctor "die", we clearly saw him get shot a second time, thus stopping the regeneration. That's what I meant. Would the ganger have started the regeneration procedure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted September 27, 2011 Awards Moderator Share Posted September 27, 2011 That's a pretty selfish sacrifice of a ganger, not in tune with the Doctors feelings as regards gangers. Amy's aside. Â Well the Doctor HAS done selfish things in the past. As you say, he melted one before to save Amy. Â Its just interesting how in the Impossible Astronaut, the Doctor approached the astronaut quiet calmly, almost as if he fully knew, expect it was coming. Maybe its a remote controlled ganger with the real doctor safely tucked away in the Tardis. Â Of course he did. Did you not see the last episode? It was all about him knowing he was going to die the following day! Â Well yes, and your quite right to pull me up on it. I was more referring to the calmness he handled it with, as if it was all part of a plan. Â Â Ah, got you. You're probably right as well. It'd be interesting to think of it the other way, of him just calmly accepting death - but the fact that this isn't the last ever episode would suggest that's not what happened! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeg_&_The_Heads Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Ah, got you. You're probably right as well. It'd be interesting to think of it the other way, of him just calmly accepting death - but the fact that this isn't the last ever episode would suggest that's not what happened! Â While I don't think this will of happened 200 years passed between "The God Complex" and "Closing Time" (That's why he was so thrown when he saw Amy and Rory in his timeline he hadn't seen them for 200 years) so I guess some stories could take place during that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Snake Plissken Posted September 27, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted September 27, 2011 Stephen Moffatt not that he can be trusted has said in a filmedinterview that it is River who kills the Doctor in the astronaut suit and it's not a ganger Doctor as she scanned him first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ReturnOfTheMack Posted September 27, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted September 27, 2011 There are ways around it. They could kill The Doctor then have a Doctor from an alternate reality (or that could be the one who died). Its a shame they never finished The Cartmel Masterplan storyline as that could have given leeway for The Doctor to return from death in an almost Jesus way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamTheGreat Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Stupid as it sounds, the only thing I couldn't get my head around last weeks ep. Was when they tried to make James Cordon into a new cyberleader. "No way a cyberman torso can fit over that fat bastard" I thought. But reading some of the theories, I'm going with the two doctors one, I kept thinking the rubix cube was some clue to something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) The rubiks cube, and particularly the effort the director put into you seeing him take a chunk out of an apple, suggests to me that the two doctors idea is a solid one. Edited September 27, 2011 by d-d-d-dAz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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