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40 minutes ago, Chest Rockwell said:

Single use vapes need to be banned yesterday. So fucking wasteful. I don't have particularly strong views on vaping otherwise.

New laws on how local authorities dispose of vapes, they have to be broken apart and disposed of separately due to being electrical means it's very costly to the tax payer. So there isn't just an environmental aspect, it's going to cost local authorities millions over the years. So even those who don't care about the environment, the money to pay for the waste disposal has to come from somewhere which could be highway maintenance, housing, social care or one of the many things your council delivers. 

I don't want to come off as a nob but it's really fucking thoughtless to use disposable vapes. 

19 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said:

1 - Full Communism

2- The people who want to bring back national service must be the first to do it, followed by their kids and grandkids. 
 

3 - Death penalty for parking in a blue badge bay when you don’t have a blue badge. Double death penalty if you’re driving a 4x4

4 - Bring back downvotes

5 - You are 28 until you turn 29. 
 

I just want my country back. 

The second one would get my vote.

1) Compulsory serving of asparagus for breakfast.

2) Free corsets for the under 5s.

3) Change NHS dentist structures. All dental surgeries have to work 40% minimum on NHS patients and there will be no NHS dental fees. Dental hygienists work would be on the NHS too.

4) State run nurseries for children aged 12 months plus. Too many people stagnate their careers by not being able to afford to work. 

5) All local authorities to have a public convenience plan (this is actually already a thing in Wales). Many old people and parents plan their day around public conveniences. Even at 39 I can't always hold it in. 

I could only come up with 2 policies so just put the other ones there for a joke. 

@cobra_gordo the Royal Family are German so it would probably be quite fitting.

18 hours ago, BomberPat said:

there's a combination of things here.

1. Dave Meltzer doesn't take his star rating system nearly as seriously as the people who spend all their time arguing about it do.

2. The star system began as a rating out of four, in emulation of Leonard Maltin's system for rating films. Meltzer inherited the system from Norm Dooley and Jim Cornette, and Dooley gave his first five star rating to Terry Funk vs. Jerry Lawler in 1981, so in Meltzer's eyes, the system had already been "broken" and rated above the supposed "maximum" rating before he even got started. He assumes everyone else understands that, so doesn't see what the fuss is about when he awards more than five stars (refer back to point 1)

3. Meltzer never rewatches anything. All of his star ratings are based on his immediate feeling after the match has finished, and he never goes back and revisits it. But he stills the system as (within the caveats of point 1) fairly definitive, so rather than accept that what we consider "five stars" will have naturally changed over time and that all reviews are only ever valid within the context of the time they were written, he argues that any match he sees that's better than a match he gave five stars in the past must necessarily get more than five stars. But you'd drive yourself mad trying to apply that logic to any other form of criticism. He seems to really struggle with the idea of placing things within their historical or cultural context (see also, his arguments against Big Daddy being in the Hall of Fame, which largely come down to him not meeting criteria that don't make sense for the British scene of his time)

He may apply it wrong but maybe grading something when you watch it first and never revisiting is the best way. It's wrestling and supposed to make you feel a certain way. It has storylines which matches are often a part of. I think Martel Vs Roberts is fantastic because it fed off the feud amazingly and as a kid had be on the tip of my toes. If you watch it back as a video having never seen the feud you'd be bored as fuck but it's purpose wasn't to be watched again 30 years later. I think Meltzer may have given it minus stars though. I'd say the same about Hogan Vs Slaughter, it worked then because of a war and the crowd are hot so still in reality a good match and made sense given the time. 

So many matches are great because they capture the feud or the then current culture well. Some age well because of the story told in that match, seeing heels get the boos, the face coming back at the right time but watching a match when first on, not sure who will win will always have a magic that watching back can't provide. 

40 minutes ago, JLM said:

Was always going to be hard to top Backlash Puerto Rico, which was one of my favourite shows of last year. The card does look decidedly “OK”. I hope they have some good France-tailored ideas for the show to set it apart a bit. 

French stick on a pole match,

Some of the matches look solid but if you have 2 mens titles and 1 women's title on the line at least have one of them believable as a title change. Often it's kind of predictable but you have that could they feel. 

Could they not have done MacIntyre wanting revenge on Priest?

19 hours ago, TildeGuy~! said:

Reminds me of the time back at All In at Wembley where they made poor Dasha advertise tickets for the next Fulham games during breaks in play and getting booed out of the building 

I think it was Fulham Vs Spurs so double boo.

People booeed the Jaguars too.

I think you'll get a Wembley show eventually, but in April with no roof? Nah

They'd sell out 2 nights with something like Summerslam but they could sell out a stadium Summerslam in America and also sell out Battle in Brent here on top.

I always assumed that 90 day no compete was a wrestler getting paid downside of their contract for 90 days. That is essentially them being bought out of their contract? If your contract actually runs down they can't stop you moving straight to AEW the following day can they?

I had one job where I had a no compete clause, I worked for a Thames Water contractor and if I left I needed to wait 6 months before going to Thames or another Thames contractor. Everyone in all the contractors and Thames apparently had it. However if you left to join another Thames Water contractor but not actually work on Thames Water projects that was fine. It was never enforced though, it was there to stop you fucking off if they really needed to but loads of people swapped between. 

1 hour ago, SuperBacon said:

Yeah that was funny. "Ooooh see how you've sneakily thrown that in there!"

Although I do often find some of it funny with those vox pops, I do think it's just sometimes an opportunity to sneer and make fun (which is fine! There are some absolute morons about) and the interviewers know exactly what they are doing and that's from a company like Times Radio!

The Joe ones are the worst. They went to Workington recently and put out a clip with a caption that to me was really cynical when in fact this chap makes a very lucid, point.

I dunno, maybe that's more of an issue with how that's presented, and I'm in no way advocating the views in that Times clip as they're hilarious (THESE DAYS?????) it just feels a bit...wrong sometimes.

I thought the guy came across as alright. He understands a lot of them come and do work that we can't fill (important work) and pay taxes. Nurses and care workers don't do cash in hand work. That the Government is heavily at fault for not incentivising people in the UK to train to do these jobs.  Even when the guy says a lot of the legal ways are blocked he admits it's true and that he was looking at it from the wrong angle. There are other factors that aren't raised but you can't discuss everything in that short period. 

edit: @Loki I interpreted it the way you do to be honest.

10 hours ago, deathrey said:

They had about 12 brain cells to rub together between them.

I think you overestimate them.

Went to see Northern Comedy Theatre (it was in London), did a show called Doing the Dead. Shame there was only about 30 people because it was hillarious, when the troupe come back down with a new show I'll be there.

These small chamber plays are often ignored but they can be brilliant.

It had a guy called Steve Arnold, who apparently was in Corrie for 15 years in. My mum knew he was. 

Yes the album version is more of a dance version and that's sadly how she performs it live although she still does the hey, hey, hey part. Although the Summer Mix is the version that was released as a single in most countries including the UK. 

edit: Yeah I like Belinda

Not sure how you would count this, but Geoff Downes from Buggles, Yes and Asia did his own version of Video Killed the Radio Star. The instrumental version works well, but I'm not a fan of the version with Glen Hughes. Not better than the original, but it's worth a listen. Strangely Bruce Wooley, a member of  Buggles who co-wrote the song but didn't appear on the famous version, recorded it (and many Buggles songs) and released it before Buggles did. 

Van Halen Balance, something about this album cover, it's fucking strange but brilliant. 

Def Leppard have good album covers in general

3 minutes ago, Devon Malcolm said:

There's plenty of evidence that Rowling is an anti-semite from her books (I believe) and now this. She should be thankful that she's the world's most famous terf as it's covered up her other prejudices.

I've never read or seen a film based on any of her books, any elaboration on this? Does she have tight fisted characters with big noses and stuff?

Sorry, I'm confused, Warhammer players actually know what a woman is?

Weren't JCP and AWA both expanding heavily in the 70s and 80s? Starrcade pre-dates Wrestlemania and I think that was JCP starting their aim of national rather than just being a larger regional, but they had been growing massively pre Starrcade. JCP pretty much took over the other NWA promotions. It was happening anyway, at the same time, so I don't think it was even light years ahead of it's time. 

14 minutes ago, SuperBacon said:

Good point, I'm not sure they would've been no. I just remember at the time it was well received and was handled well that's all. 

It was dealt with well, a lovely triumphs story. Maybe it worked as something that people didn't really see or hear of outside of this storyline so people didn't think to hard about it. It was probably pretty ground breaking. Now days it would be seen as shoving an agenda down our faces, sadly. A phrase I see and hear a lot. I don't hate (insert minority group here) and I understand the want for equality I just don't want their agenda shoved down my throat. So you want them to have equality, you just don't want to see or hear them.

58 minutes ago, SuperBacon said:

I'm not sure, I always found Shakespeare boring.

To your earlier point about the 2000s being the golden years if tolerance, I think you're sort of right. Look at Hayley in Corrie, which was (and I might be wrong) the first openly trans character in a major TV show, and by and large, one of the most positive (and positively received) portrayals of all time.

We've gone massively backwards and it's all for bullshit reasons.

So you think people would have been as polite if it was a trans woman playing the part? I'm not sure they would.

I find it all so odd, people even complaining about drag queens? Drag queens have been around for years, as a kid Barry Humphreys and Paul O'Grady were household names, doing family TV in the 80s and 90s and I feel like nobody batted an eyelid? Am I remembering it wrong. 

I was aware of that Harry Ramsden fact actually. Matthew Corbett was at a show in Crawley last week. Bet some of the parents were well chuffed. 

To anybody who ever fancies it, the show is a mix of usual sooty slapstick, crowd involvement, singing and magic. The kids can have a pic taken with Sooty and Richard Cadell after.

Wasn't sure where to put this. I took my son to the theatre today. We saw Sooty and it was great fun. The parents and grandparents often more engaged as they had watched the show as kids. It's amazing a hand puppet can age so well.

What I posted in Woke,

"A new managers job has been made at my organisation. Public conveniences and animal welfare. Both previously managed by Street Cleaning, with 1 guy (me) doing SC and PC (80% the latter), 1 guy doing SC and AW (A 50/50 split) and one just doing AW. So I have no experience with animal welfare and they have none with PCs so will be interesting. PCs has 10 times the budget despite less staff. The manager will manager 2 members of staff. I obviously need to read up on Animal Welfare. Does anybody work on anything like that? Apart from DDA 91 and AWA 2006 I don't know where to look."

37 minutes ago, JLM said:

I’m sure animal welfare is considered woke by some people, but I suspect this post was intended for the Work thread. 

Well I'm sure I heard some old bloke complaining about millenials identifying as a cat

A new managers job has been made at my organisation. Public conveniences and animal welfare. Both previously managed by Street Cleaning, with 1 guy (me) doing SC and PC (80% the latter), 1 guy doing SC and AW (A 50/50 split) and one just doing AW. So I have no experience with animal welfare and they have none with PCs so will be interesting. PCs has 10 times the budget despite less staff. The manager will manager 2 members of staff. I obviously need to read up on Animal Welfare. Does anybody work on anything like that? Apart from DDA 91 and AWA 2006 I don't know where to look.