Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted January 5, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 5, 2012 Cheers for that Wepner info nfc90210. Interesting read. I still think Chuck's a good guy. Dodgy as fuck but the type of guy you could have a pint with and listen to a bunch of great stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugaziuk Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Will def be going to this: Kell Brook back in Sheffield  I have liked Brook for a while now - what does everyone else think of him? Contender or flash in the pan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Goldberg Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Will def be going to this: Kell Brook back in Sheffield  I have liked Brook for a while now - what does everyone else think of him? Contender or flash in the pan?  Will definatly try and make the Sheff Arena show. We don't get enough boxing.  I think he's a real contender but his weight division is full of top class fighters although some are on the way out.  He needs a few bigger tests in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Murtz Posted January 6, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 Anyone following the Khan story about the mystery man at ringside during the Peterson fight? Its pretty fascinating stuff the way Khans claim is shown in pictures. If something dodgy is revealed from this it would be ace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Murtz Posted January 6, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Double post. Edited January 6, 2012 by Murtz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Deaq Posted January 6, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 Anyone following the Khan story about the mystery man at ringside during the Peterson fight? Its pretty fascinating stuff the way Khans claim is shown in pictures. If something dodgy is revealed from this it would be ace.I'm not Khan's biggest fan but the fact this guy is talking to a judge which stops him from even watching the fight, then he is handing notes to the other judges and distracting them is not good. Everybody knew that Khan would struggle to win on points but they never needed to make its that easy to see. The guy was celebrating with Peterson after the fight as well which is pretty messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TildeGuy~! Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Floyd Mayweather Jr has avoided starting his jail sentence for domestic violence until June 1 after a judge ruled that he can fight an as-yet unnamed opponent in May believed to be Manny Pacquiao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Taylorslade Posted January 6, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Anyone following the Khan story about the mystery man at ringside during the Peterson fight? Its pretty fascinating stuff the way Khans claim is shown in pictures. If something dodgy is revealed from this it would be ace.Yeah, it would really be something to celebrate wouldn't it? Regarding the Khan/Peterson fight, I didn't have a problem with the referee penalizing Khan for the forearms. Yes, we see hundreds of fighters using forearms, but it depends on which referee you have and how you use the forearm to push and shove an opponent. Good fighters develop an ability (mainly using their forearms and elbows) to control an opponents movement at close quarters , and to create space for their own offence whilst limiting the other guy can do. It's an art form in itself, and the finest practitioner of these techniques right now is of course Floyd Mayweather. Guys who do it well, will do it somewhat discreetly and at the correct moments, unlike how Amir was during the Peterson fight, which was the main thing that lead to the referee docking him. Just shoving your opponent back crudely will probably get you penalized sharpish, depending on the referee, and to be fair, the ref gave Amir plenty of warnings.Here's a quick example of how to control an aggressive opponent as they come forward, Skip to exactly 2 minutes of this video for the best example.....of course, that is a gifted fighter doing that, but you get the idea. Of course, Joe Cortez would've probably looked the other way during that fight if Mayweather even kneed Hatton in the balls, but I know that no ref would reprimand a fighter for doing it in similar fashion to what Floyd does in that clip and in most of his fights.In this next clip, the young George Foreman tears the HW crown from Joe Frazier, implementing shoving tactics which make those of Amir Khan seem tame and subtle, as part of a simple fight plan laid out to him by All-time great and boxing mastermind Archie Moore. Simple, but effective tactics which took away Frazier's only real chance of winning, which was his ability to create momentum and set up his famous left hooks. Looking at that fight, you could understand Khan's frustration, but at the end of the day, it all depends on which referee you get and how you approach these things.Frazier Vs Foreman IRegarding the mystery man at ringside ; whoever he is, his communication with one of the WBA or IBF representatives at ringside (it's not a judge he is speaking to), that does look suspect, so it will be interesting to see what explaination comes out. However, this was a Golden Boy promoted show, and Amir Khan was the house fighter in reality because Lamont Peterson can't sell tickets to save his life, so on the surface, a "pay-off" doesn't seem anywhere near as likely as people are making out, not when you really think about it. It's not like Khan was fighting Saul Alvarez in Mexico city, or Chavez Jr in Culiacan, so it doesn't really add up. It will be interesting to see what comes out though. In all of this BS, everyone seems to be losing sight of the fact that Khan didn't perform well during the fight , which was probably due to Peterson putting in a great performance, and not just down to Khan "not showing up" as most are suggesting. Khan is a very vulnerable boy sometimes, particularly when he throws combinations, because he ends up way out of position....and when he goes to the ropes, he has a habit of reeling back into the ropes and allowing the momentum to carry his upper body towards his opponent, these were things that Peterson should be given full credit for, because he saw his chances and took them. Edited January 7, 2012 by Taylorslade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Taylorslade Posted January 6, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Floyd Mayweather Jr has avoided starting his jail sentence for domestic violence until June 1 after a judge ruled that he can fight an as-yet unnamed opponent in May believed to be Manny Pacquiao....and in response to the vast amount of requests, the State of Nevada has released a photo of the Federal Judge who granted this request from Mayweather's legal team ;the Judge has also released the following statement to the media ; "Let's get it on!!" Edited January 6, 2012 by Taylorslade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Taylorslade Posted January 7, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 7, 2012 Will def be going to this:Kell Brook back in SheffieldI have liked Brook for a while now - what does everyone else think of him? Contender or flash in the pan?He has all of the right qualities to do very, very well; Athletically gifted, marvellous reflexes, a rare level of anticipation and alley cat instinct to go with his very good boxing brain. A lifetime of being in the same gym alongside a handful of talented fighters hasn't hurt either. Of course, Naz was the biggest example of those gym buddies who helped him along. Iron sharpens iron. Although I don't think the comparisons with Hamed are entirely accurate, because Kell is far more conventional than Naz ever was as far as movement and style goes. IMO, he is very good to watch and I fully expect him to do well, while giving fans a few exciting moments on the way. --------One more thing, to answer Ebb's question about DVD sellers and their ads in BN, normally I only use Superstars of boxing, whose service is always great in every way. As far as guys like 4-play-fights, they are very very expensive, and the extra cost of his career sets are not really worth it just for the sake of one or two more fights (which are almost always fights from very very early in the fighters career. On average, a career set from SOB will cost about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted January 7, 2012 Author Paid Members Share Posted January 7, 2012 great post about the forearm situation Taylor.The Khan 'mystery man' situation needs to be sorted out though, it feels like more sour grapes from Khan but he is definitly within his rights to bring this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 My sources indicate that the mystery man is IBF official Mustafa Ameen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted January 7, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 7, 2012 Yeah the forearm stuff goes on in boxing but the ref taking points was just in that case imo. Khan got warned a few times so should have known he was on thin ice with the warnings. It was up to him to adapt to the situation and find another way to deal with Peterson's pressure. The bloke outside the ring was dodgy as fuck though. That needs looking into. Still thought Peterson won it fair and square and Khan's bellyaching is getting old. But that business with the guy outside seems really shady and that shit needs stamping out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted January 12, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) Interesting little video here. Barry McGuigan and Ricky Hatton talk depression with Freddie Flintoff. Â Â Never heard Hatton admitting he actually thought he was gonna lose to Pacquiao during his ring walk. Â Also, anyone catch Joe Calzaghe on Bunce's show this week? Â Here's part 1, you can get to part 2 from there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkEas31BC2U Â Hadn't seen Calzaghe for a while. Anyone else think he looks weird here? Has he had work done or something? He looks plastic. I thought it was a lookalike for a sec. The little leather waistcoat didn't help Edited January 12, 2012 by wandshogun09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TildeGuy~! Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Will def be going to this: Kell Brook back in Sheffield  I have liked Brook for a while now - what does everyone else think of him? Contender or flash in the pan?  Will definatly try and make the Sheff Arena show. We don't get enough boxing.  I think he's a real contender but his weight division is full of top class fighters although some are on the way out.  He needs a few bigger tests in 2012.  Matthew Hatton for Kell Brook next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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