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I think the dude with the specks was getting his hole from the ginger girl. They played with WCW wrestling figures and u could FEEL the sexual tension in the room, first time I've EVER felt it somewhere else. Crap documentry. I switched off when they said thumbtacks have only been used for 5 years :s

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LIVE INTERVIEWWith BYW BURCHWere you outraged by what was said in the documentary that aired on Channel 4? Do you have questions you would like to ask him?Well this is your chance in a special LIVE chat to be done in #Bagga1 on Mirc on Wednesday 29th October 2003 at 9pm- 10pm.This special live online chat is brought to you by www.wrestle-weekly.com, the chat will then be put up on the site later onLots of important people with in the business will be invited, only 1 question will be asked at what time. Due to this kind of chat been very exhausting after the 1 hour chat you can post questions in a thread and I will e-mail the rest to him and that can be done at a later dateThanks for your timeWrestle Weekly

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Wrestling is not taken seriously in any way and it will take more than a program like this to change that view.

Wrestling will NEVER be taken seriously.No matter what they put in that documentary it couldn't have done any harm to wrestling, because the majority of people's opinion on it couldn't be any lower.The only people who seem to even care about the show are already fans of wrestling, which isn't going to matter to them.
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As for all these people who say that they bropke kayfabe on here somebody I know raised an excellent point, Kayfabe was broken ages ago, since Vince McMahon and the montreal screw job, since Foley had three characters, since the owen hart death kayfabe ha sbeen rboken, tough enough broke kayfabe as well kayfabe has been broken ladies an dgentlemen.

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I gave up on the thing when the commentator claimed drawing pins ('or thumbtacks', cheers for that) had only been used in wrestling for the last 3 years. Researcher. Dead. A documentary about BY that can't even be arsed to research the history of wrestling beyond 21st century Philly is as credible as a Backyarder claiming he's a wrestler. Next time I watched a kid was pulling a pizza cutter out of a shed and beaming coz it still had blood on it. Me, as a first aider, I was ASHAMED at the state of our parental neglect in this country, and the fact that kids don't understand just how much of a risk they're putting themselves under.As for all of these claims that BYers should be welcomed into wrestling schools, fuck that. Sorry but these are exactly the kind of people who should never be shown how to drop someone on their head. Can't stay around long enough to learn how to fall? Give them a shred of knowledge and all that'll happen is a rash of teenagers thinking they know it all and teaching it to younger kids, who think they know it all.........Here's what we should do with them, whenever a kid gets cut up, mutilated, concussed, paralyzed or even picks up a friction burn from backyarding the parents should be charged with neglect. Coz that's what it boils down to. Oh and Burch, the guy who got a 'bald patch' from being cut open by a rusting drum, do you know what tetnus can do to you? Do you understand just how irresponsible it is to lie to a nurse/doctor/orderly? 'Course you don't, which is why you need to stop thinking you're some kind of god because a bunch of like minded idiots look up to you.

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If American indy groups had no ring, no equipment and no anything they would just be the same as these kids, just give them a chance. I think they have bottle to go through that, just last night i was talking to a kid not involved in BYW and he as joined a wrestling school.He is quite big and would like to specialise in Mat/ Submission, but on his first few lessons what as he HAD to learn CARTWHEELS, come on and you wonder why these kids do this because they feel as if they are not needed. We have so much undiscovered Talent out there and if these kids were given the chance they would train and become better then any of the yanks you see in RENTBOYS ON HEAT :rolleyes: Oh sorry i think you call it RING OF HONOUR :devil:

Yadda yadda yadda - all Brits are great, all Yanks are crap etc etc etc. A dumb fuck from Portsmouth hasn't even got the balls/intelligence to travel a mile or so to get trained by pros? It's got nothing to do with having bottle; it's to do with having no brain. They don't do it because 'they feel as if they are not needed' (they aren't needed); they do it because they think it makes wrestlers.Your obsession with hating the 'Yanks' is wearisome. Wrestling has changed - get used to it.BYW, if an 'indy group' had no ring, no equipment and no anything they would be backyarders, American or not.
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Hmmm.You know what, I have a little sympathy for Burch and some of theother guys (even that sad bint from XHW), at least they are now gettingsome training in so hey, that's allright by me.BYW to me is a very small community, but from someone who's alsoinvolved in something quite small I know what a boost it is when someonesays they really enjoy what you do, and it can propell you to try and do better, hopefully (as is the case with Birch and Sellby) you'll go on to doit sensibly and not make an ass out of yourself.But still even if it's only 30 people, peer pressure can be quite intenseto someone seeking acceptance.I still think teh documentary was poorly researched and quite badly shotbut at the end of the day it was shot/shown and now we have to deal withthe consequences.I really hope C4 now shows the other side of the boundary and does a show about 'ligitamate' Pro Wrestling in the UK, but I doubt it.

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Who's training school was it that was featured when the ginger girl finally decided to get to a pro school?Other thoughts,I disagree with those who say that this has killed British Wrestling, I'm sure the majority of viewers will see that program for what it is and can distinguish between a company with a ring (pro) and those without (backyard).Annoyed me to see dropkixx trainees clapping and 'marking out' for the moves that Selby and Burch were doing at the school. It backed up the concept that they were 'Legends' because if the Pro's are showing you respect for the stuff you are doing then you must be good. If you get what I mean.Another Dropkixx point, when James Burch's dad tells Frank Rimer:"I get worried when they do the suplexes"and Frank Replies..."It's ok, as long as they can fall properly it's all okay. Basically discredits the whole training process of Professional Wrestlers, putting across the image that if you train for an hour and learn how to fall then thats all it takes to be a Pro, and you'll never get hurt anymore in the Backyard.However, I wouldn't be surprised if Franks comment was edited in such a way that it was taken out of context. I do know what he was trying to say though.Overall a well made documentry......On a related note, we were told at college to watch the program for a Communication Studies project relating to gang initiation/violence....I now await the backlash from those at college who know I work in the business. It'll be interesting to see if they tar me with the Backyard brush or can identify that I am in the Pro sector....

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Not every baclyard fed uses lightubes or violence does nobody get this?You are all going on about stuff being out of context, how CZW now look slike backyard, how the trainers thoughts were taken wrong well that is exactly what has happened here in the case of BYW.Thje documentors saw the violent feds and thought it would be more shocking hence the name of the doc. They didnt bother with the technically minded feds.How many people who have posted on here are in the pro business I am just curious.Not one of you knows what backyard wrestling is, you think you do because you saw a shitty little documentary.CZW are rubbish by the way they are utter garbage it isn't even pro wrestling, for starters a strimmer beign used in a match thats just plain ridiculous.Fact is BYW has been screwed by this documentary because gullible fools like yourself are taken in and feel it is all exactly right and it has shown you what it is all about.If you can not understand that then I am afraid you are all small minded pathetic people who should grow up.

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Them kids are a joke. That fat kid from Newcastle lol what a twat, he and hes little mate who is a girl hiting each other with all this shit in front of about 5 little kids about 6 or 7. They dont have a ring or anything that would make it look evan a litle bit good, no wonder that guy got bulled.

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