Paid Members herbie747 Posted February 28, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 So, was having a debate with a guy here. Â He shouts out his own jokes at comedy shows, but seems to think it's fine. I said that everyone else in the crowd (and the comedian) hates "that guy"; but he insists I'm talking "out of my arse" and that it's okay to do - and it's even more acceptable if it's an "on topic" pun, because that adds to the show and gives the crowd extra bang for their buck. Â Please use the poll to clarify your opinion on it. Â If I left out any options, let me know and I'll add them. Â Ta! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Bus Surfer Posted February 28, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 Where do you get 'I shout my own jokes?' Again, it wasn't a joke or a heckle, but you don't see to grasp that. You got beef, Herbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingmad Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 It can be annoying when it's repeated but I do love it when the comedian owns them back. If they shut up then all is good in my books. I don't think comedian's totally hate it, it's a challenge for them. Â Jimmy Carr destroying hecklers I'm sure most you would had seen this but this is why I tend to enjoy heckling, Carr is pretty fabulous at comebacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members herbie747 Posted February 28, 2012 Author Paid Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 Where do you get 'I shout my own jokes?'  I got it from you, actually - good enough source? Mick didn't respond well to my 'Cactus Sack' comment   "Again, it wasn't a joke or a heckle"  You made a pun = a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Bus Surfer Posted February 28, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 Where do you get 'I shout my own jokes?'  I got it from you, actually - good enough source? Mick didn't respond well to my 'Cactus Sack' comment   "Again, it wasn't a joke or a heckle"  You made a pun = a joke.  Over the top much? I guess it's hard for me to get across how it was said, but there was absolutely no malice in it and was meant in a light hearted way for something I enjoyed in the past that he did. Next time I'll sit on my hands though and keep silent even when he encourages crowd interaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members herbie747 Posted February 28, 2012 Author Paid Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 Over the top much? Â What's a "top much"? Â Next time I'll sit on my hands though and keep silent even when he encourages crowd interaction. I never suggested sitting on your hands. You could just laugh & enjoy yourself like everyone else - the fans paid to see him make jokes - not you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Bus Surfer Posted February 28, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 What's that got to do with the original shit you were banging on about? And how is that even a joke? Your way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Dead Mike Posted February 28, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 Cunts of the highest order. Unfortunately, it's a practice that has been tolerated for so long by the big comedy clubs & their reliance of stag/hen/office party bookings that you can't really ban it any more. You can guarantee that 99% of the time the heckler will be the one person in the group who considers himself the 'funny one', doesn't like the fact that his friends aren't laughing at him so will try & reaffirm his 'funny' status by trying to get one up on the act. Â The idea that it's 'helping out' the act or adding to the night is a myth, in the 6 years I've been running comedy gigs I can count on 1 hand the number of actually, vaguely witting heckles that have garnered a laugh. The acts absolutely hate it as (pro-acts) will have their set rehearsed so every pause, glance etc is timed to get the best response & the flow of their set will be interrupted. If the comedian has to take 2 or 3 minutes out to deal with an audience member, that's likely a routine out of their set that now needs to be omitted so they don't overrun. Â A heckler at a comedy night is the equivalent of a vocal, smark in the front row of a wrestling show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey_Piste Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Heckling is context sensitive. Shouting out uninspired insults or just shouting out your own jokes is generally bad form. Any comedian worth his salt will verbally belittle a heckler like that. I just want to point out Jimmy Carr heckle is part of his act, he got heckled at the same point by the same guy for the entirety of that tour. Then you have situations where the comedian brings on the abuse. Either being incredibly unfunny or in certain comedians that's actually asked for, they will happily throw out banter with the audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Halitosis Romantic Posted February 28, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 Fucking hate it... I've never been a comedy club show that didn't have some twat or other pissed up and heckling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted February 28, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 One particular drunken twat almost ruined a Norman Lovett show I saw a couple of years ago, relentlessly dribbling on, and that soured me towards hecklers even more. Â I think comedians that use audience participation as part of their act are, to a certain extent, fair game. To a certain extent. But at shows where comedians are clearly wanting to do the work, it's unforgivable. And shit. Hecklers are NEVER funny, whether they are doing it to a comedian that uses the audience or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Dead Mike Posted February 28, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 If the act asks the audience a question or initiates the exchange with the crowd I wouldn't class that as heckling as it's part of the act & they know where they're going with it. For me, a heckle is an uninvited interruption. Â Rule of thumb, if you're buying a ticket for a comedy show & you can see anyone in fancy dress ahead of you in the queue turn round & go home as it'll be awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Thunderplex Posted February 28, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 I've both been pissed off with them when they interrupt the flow of a show, and have experienced them enhancing a show that was falling on its arse. Â Best one I saw was in the early 90's when Jo Brand was doing a spot at the Buzz in Chorlton. She was shite, just mumbling on about periods. Guys near the front shouted "Tell us something funny for fucks sake". She then went on to verbaly rip this guy to shreds in one of the funniest 20 minutes I have ever seen. If the heckler had not had said anything, it would have been torture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Freebird Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I once answered my phone at a comedy night, which the act took as a heckle, he came over, grabbed the blower and then started doing sex talk down the phone. That was marginally amusing. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Halitosis Romantic Posted February 28, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 I do think that they provide the stage hook function at open mic nights - unfunny amateurs need to know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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